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I do appreciate you notifying me about updatesto past discussions whichI have participatedin, even as I haven't been very active in Wikidata for severalmonths. A lot has happened in my life in the pastyear, and I havesimplybeen unable to keep up. I havenointent to quit Wiikidata , insteadI have ambitiousplans formy retirement, which is now approaching fast. I've been trying a few new things such as learning some basic Mongolian, and reproducing handwritten sheet music from 50 years ago in Rosegarden and Lilypond. Plus I enjoy emulating old mainframe computers on my home desktop and want to build a virtual datacenter called Maneframe Six nspired by the My Little Pony cartoon theme for demo and educational purposes. Tying it together with Wikidata using SPARQL and Lua. I wish to see the TOPS-20 operating systemof the 1980's support SSL encryption and Unicode, so that we could translate old software into languages other than English, such as Hindi and Mongolian (using the vertical script) --SM5POR (talk) 12:05, 27 January 2024 (UTC)

While I do recognizethe Devanagari script used by @Haseeb in the comment before mine above, I was too quick to assume it to be Hindi, and I then had Google identify it as Bengali. If either of you two are interested in improving Wikidate support for your native languages, please help me to fill out two columns in [table of comparison of sentences involving the English preposition "in" to demonstrate the need for representingthis grammatical relation in Wikidata Lexemes. If either of you happen to understand Punjabi, please check the Punjabi column as well, as I simply relied on Google Translate to write it. Feel free to edit/correct the table directly on my page or comment on its discussion page as you prefer. SM5POR (talk) 12:53, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
@ZI Jony: I'm sorry for prematurely asking for translation help, as I should first do a better job myself of setting up a more convenient table to edit. I hope to contribute a generic Sense template for abstract words to the Lexeme database project, and it will enquire substantial work with tools outside Wikidata such as Lua code, and supplementary database tables (perhaps in Commons) and, my non-Wikidata workload doesn't allow me to spend enough time on this. --SM5POR (talk) 15:35, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
@SM5POR:, that's okay, Mahir256 is working with lexeme database very well, I believe he may help you much better for your project. Regards, ZI Jony (Talk) 09:34, 30 January 2024 (UTC)

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Wikidata:Property proposal/Tekstowo.pl artist ID

Could you please give this proposal a closure? It's been up for more than a year Trade (talk) 23:40, 6 April 2024 (UTC)

@Trade:, nowadays I tried to clear the backlogs in properties ready for creation. However, I'll review all property proposals once again very shortly including this proposal. Regards, ZI Jony (Talk) 09:01, 7 April 2024 (UTC)

Touhou Wiki ID (P12585)

The links doesn't work Trade (talk) 12:18, 7 April 2024 (UTC)

Trade fixed, also for TUESPWiki ID (P12590). Regards, ZI Jony (Talk) 15:36, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
https://i.imgur.com/l9Cd5Ju.png
https://i.imgur.com/cC1ajrT.png Trade (talk) 15:40, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
Just now I've changed all the data, will look back into this tomorrow. Regards, ZI Jony (Talk) 15:46, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
Trade, now both links are in working conditions. Regards, ZI Jony (Talk) 18:14, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
Now neither of the identifiers can link to articles in non-English languages tho Trade (talk) 19:49, 11 April 2024 (UTC)

Property COBISS ID

Hi, ZI Jony. I have seen you have closed the Wikidata:Property proposal/COBISS ID as not done due to lack of support. Please let me know: Can I renominate this property? Should I gather support before creating a proposal? --TadejM (talk) 14:30, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

@TadejM:, you no need to gather support for the property proposal, support is the result of the property proposal discussion. You're free to renominate any proposal, if you would like to renominate particularly this proposal, then I am willing to reopen if users are supporting your proposal. Regards, ZI Jony (Talk) 07:09, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
Hi, thanks for the reply. The proposal is still valid and and I would appreciate if you reopen it. There was not much interest previously, but at least no one objected. This property would come handy for all visitors from Slovenia and its neighbouring countries. ---TadejM (talk) 12:50, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
@TadejM:, reopened. Regards, ZI Jony (Talk) 13:08, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
Thanks a lot! --TadejM (talk) 13:34, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

About: QuickStatements #temporary_batch_1713878575243

This batch could be misformated because these two edits missed the ending parenthesis ) . Sabelöga (talk) 21:50, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

@Sabelöga:, there was only three mis-formatted which you have fixed, thank you for your assistance. Regards, ZI Jony (Talk) 07:14, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

Lexicographic cooperation sought

Hello,Id' like to explain that I alertedyouto the issue broughtup by @Shisma regarding the ̣̪Duden sense ID (P12641) subject type constraint merely because you appeared from the property edit history to have edited the constraints and therefore might have an opinion on it. I hope I was correct in that regard. I don't consider myself sufficiently educated about the constraint mechanics to determine from your discussion whether the issue was resolved or not, but since you are obviously involved with lexemes and senses I'd like to take the opportunity to ask for some general advice. Yesterday I posted a proposal on the Lexicographic Data discussion page regarding adpositional sense item trees hoping to bring some attention to that matter. Unfortunately, even today my proposal hasn't received a single comment, and I wonder, am I going about this issue the wrong way, or am I simply too impatient, I would love to get an idea of what others think about linking lexeme senses to Wikibase items,so that I could get started building these structures and demonstrate the many different ways adpositions are used in various languages and try to discourage editors from making simplistic assumptions about one adposition in English such aʂ "in" being easily translated to a single word in each of several other languages, some of which not eveɳ Indo-European. The Swedish preposition "på" for instance may be translated either "in" "at" "on" or "during" depending on its exact sense and context. I'mnot asking for your own comments specifically on this matter as such, only for some advice on how to get the attention of the editors most concerned about sense properties in case you aren't among them.

And if youthink I'm biting off a bigger chunk of work than I can chew and swallow with this modest proposal, just wait until I tell you about my anticipated Project Lexodus (expelling all language-specific properties such as demonyms and pronunciation audio samples from Wikibase item space). That will rock Wikidata in its foundations and probably require at least one Phabricator ticketǃ--SM5POR (talk) 13:57, 2 May 2024 (UTC)

Thankyou

Just wanted to say thank you for the work you do with "property proposals" :-) keep up the good work Back ache (talk) 11:13, 27 May 2024 (UTC)

Back ache, thanks for your trust and appreciation. Regards, ZI Jony (Talk) 12:53, 27 May 2024 (UTC)

Meurgorf

Hi,

First I wanted to thank you for the creation of Meurgorf identifier (P12761) (and many other properties).

I have a question about formatter URL (P1630), can I add two values? Meurgorf interface is bilingual, there is https://niverel.brezhoneg.bzh/br/meurgorf/$1 in Breton and https://niverel.brezhoneg.bzh/fr/meurgorf/$1 in French. I'm not sure how two values would work exactly... I've seen in done on other properties like Finnish MP ID (P2181) but it violates the constraint, I guess I can add the Breton interface as preferred, what do you think?

Cheers, VIGNERON (talk) 13:19, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

@VIGNERON: both added. Regards, ZI Jony (Talk) 13:22, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
Thanks again! Cheers, VIGNERON (talk) 13:31, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

I don't understand this alias

"Not recognized by" doesn't seem to makes sense with any of the allowed values of the qualifier. Swpb (talk) 13:41, 4 June 2024 (UTC)

@Swpb:, thanks you for notice, it's my bad, that shouldn't be there. It was added based on a RfC. However, I've removed that alias from there. Regards, ZI Jony (Talk) 18:00, 4 June 2024 (UTC)

d:Wikidata:Property proposal/Douban Personage ID

It's a very important property in Chinese wikipedia. I decides to reopen it. BTW, may propersal has been on hold for long time. Kethyga (talk) 00:33, 10 June 2024 (UTC)

@Kethyga:, there is no valid engagement from experience users who usually involve in property proposal discussions! However, if there is any engagement then I'm willing to reopen the proposal. Regards, ZI Jony (Talk) 13:19, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
you closed it, how could other people continue participating on it? There's no need to re-establish a new proposal. d:Wikidata:Project chat/zh Here's a Chinese discussion (Douban personage id, sorry I'm complaing there). I don't think it's needed to be closed so quickly. Kethyga (talk) 09:27, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
@Kethyga: if you would like to complain about it, fell free to do so. However, I noticed that you pinged some of your native users, and some of them well known that how property proposal discussions work. @GZWDer, YFdyh000, Cwek, Midleading: if you guys are interested to participate in that property proposal discussions them, give your opinion/comment on the property proposal discussions page, and I will reopen the proposal afterwords. Regards, ZI Jony (Talk) 12:33, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
B.T.W., I think that whether done or not done, the original proposer should be notified about the result or the reason why it's not done. Kethyga (talk) 04:34, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
@Kethyga:, I believe you need to check comments on the proposal discussion page, whoever closes the proposal always leaves a reason/comment for closing the proposal. Regards, ZI Jony (Talk) 05:29, 14 June 2024 (UTC)

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Thank-you

Thanks for your work with all those Species Files identifiers. Jts1882 (talk) 15:56, 14 June 2024 (UTC)

You're welcome. Regards, ZI Jony (Talk) 16:55, 15 June 2024 (UTC)

Moods

I formally request that you respond to my objection on the discussion page for the creation of the property 'music mood'. Thank you. DS (talk) 19:27, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

@DragonflySixtyseven:, you objected after the property created! In this case we couldn't do anything unless you open a discussion at properties for deletion as Wüstenspringmaus suggested. Regards, ZI Jony (Talk) 12:26, 19 June 2024 (UTC)

P12600

Hi! I just want to inform you that the proponent of P12600 (P12600) that you created has marked it for deletion (Wikidata:Properties for deletion/P12600) as in fact the website was still experimental and the ID will be superseded by the proposed Wikidata:Property proposal/LAGL author ID. --Epìdosis 22:04, 29 June 2024 (UTC)

https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q12126092

you have reverted an edit on this page. Could you please explain, why a link to a deleted page should remain. Thanks and kind regards. --NilsB (talk) 19:35, 6 July 2024 (UTC)

@NilsB, is it possible to link a deleted? If you/someone deleted a page which linked Wikidata then link will be removed automatically. Regards, ZI Jony (Talk) 13:35, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
Did you look at the case? Or you just reverted the change? Can you please explain? Thanks! NilsB (talk) 14:03, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
NilsB, that page should remain linked as the page exist! page didn’t deleted permanently to keep as document of outdated versions. Regards, ZI Jony (Talk) 14:22, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
Just look at the page: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Namenskonventionen/Englisch. It has been deleted / emptied. I am german and I can read the page. It doesn't make sense to link to this page. It's very annoying to discuss such a stupid topic. Why do you want to keep a link to an "empty" page. You cannot even read the page but you think you have the authority to revert a change. Please find a third person to support your action and I will immediately spend my time with more satisfying stuff. Then you have won and will delete myself. Great success on your side! Congrats! NilsB (talk) 07:20, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
@NilsB removed. Regards, ZI Jony (Talk) 08:01, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Wikidata Barnstar
Open property proposals have never been so tidy - thanks so much for your hard work! ArthurPSmith (talk) 00:48, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
You are always welcome, thank you for appraising. Regards, ZI Jony (Talk) 04:43, 13 July 2024 (UTC)

Labels and descsriptions for new properties

Hello! Thank you for having created property Wiley Online Library journal ID (P12897). For future creations, please remember also to add all the labels and descriptions specified in the proposal (example). Thanks! Horcrux (talk) 15:24, 16 July 2024 (UTC)

@Horcrux, I forget to add italian! Thanks for adding and your reminder. Regards, ZI Jony (Talk) 15:47, 16 July 2024 (UTC)

Emirates College of Technology

Dear ZI, Thank you for your message. I am making changes to the "Emirates College of Technology" page because I am an employee of this institution. Our college has merged with Al Khawarizmi International College of Technology, and we now operate under the new entity, "Liwa College." This merger was announced in local newspapers in the UAE, and we have numerous references confirming this change. Please refer to the following links for more information: https://pledgetimes.com/launching-liwa-college-in-abu-dhabi/ https://uaenews247.com/2023/05/17/announcing-the-merger-of-khawarizmi-international-college-and-liwa-college-of-technology-in-the-emirate-of-abu-dhabi-under-the-umbrella-of-nema-education/ https://www.apnnews.com/announcing-the-merger-of-khawarizmi-international-college-and-liwa-college-of-technology-in-the-emirate-of-abu-dhabi-under-the-umbrella-of-nema-education/ https://www.zawya.com/en/press-release/companies-news/nema-education-launches-liwa-college-in-abu-dhabi-kwnzlg66 https://wam.ae/en/details/1395303056830 https://gulfnews.com/uae/two-major-abu-dhabi-colleges-merge-under-nema-education-umbrella-1.95842151 https://www.zawya.com/en/press-release/companies-news/announcing-the-merger-of-khawarizmi-international-college-and-liwa-college-of-technology-in-the-emirate-of-abu-dhabi-under-the-umbrella-of-nema-education-m1k1fy4z We are committed to updating the entity of our college on all relevant websites. Please assist us in accomplishing this task and update the page of "Emirates College of Technology" to "Liwa College." Thank you for your support. Best regards, Salah Eldib (talk) 13:23, 17 July 2024 (UTC)

I was looking at my contributions and noticed you reverted my edit

I made a mistake when editing San Pedro, Los Angeles, California. Could you please merge San Pedro (Q121592583) into San Pedro (Q290356)? 73.170.137.168 07:24, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

Already done by Wüstenspringmaus. Regards, ZI Jony (Talk) 07:39, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

Reproposal of two not done properties

Hi @ZI Jony: Can you put the following two properties back on the proposal board (Wikidata:Property proposal/Authority control) that have not received positive support before:

  1. Wikidata:Property proposal/Pocket Oxford-Hachette French Dictionary: English-French ID
  2. Wikidata:Property proposal/Pocket Oxford German Dictionary: English-German ID

Several users could now vote again and give their opinion on these two properties. Regards. Soufiyouns (talk) 13:14, 21 July 2024 (UTC)

@Soufiyouns, reopened. Regards, ZI Jony (Talk) 20:59, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
Soufiyouns, could you please provide a link of the discussion that @Lionel Cristiano, Clemens Dulcis: came to know about the proposals. Regards, ZI Jony (Talk) 03:08, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
Hi ZI Jony. I just informed them of the existence of this proposal and there was no discussion. Regards. Soufiyouns (talk) 06:20, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
@Soufiyouns, I've to consider this as canvassing! Because both the users voted only on your property proposals, as they didn't participated in any of property proposals other then you (even they don't have any edit on Wikidata namespaces, except RFP), and those which didn't get any attention from other users who regularly participant in the property proposals discussion. Regards, ZI Jony (Talk) 06:42, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
@ZI Jony: Shouldn't I ask other users to support these property proposals, especially if they are involved in the subject and theme of the property. Regards. Soufiyouns (talk) 06:48, 23 July 2024 (UTC)

RE: Q125292555

Hi! I was the one who originally linked the articles, since I thought I could link all the annexes from previous phases of the Champions League in the same article. Then I realized it wasn't and tried to delete it, so I removed it. It is not appropriate to append since in the English Wikipedia the article is for all the previous phases, while in the Spanish Wikipedia each phase has a different article. I don't usually do this kind of thing so I don't know how to fix it and I don't understand the second thing you mentioned, could you help me? Thank you. Allyouneedislove (talk) 14:25, 22 July 2024 (UTC)

@Allyouneedislove, I already fixed that, hope there will be no problem! Regards, ZI Jony (Talk) 18:43, 22 July 2024 (UTC)

Why did you mark my draft as ready for discussion

In future, please refrain from marking other people's proposals as "proposed"!

https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Wikidata%3AProperty_proposal%2FIDU_play_ID&diff=2218714837&oldid=2216096214

No big deal in this case, as it is indeed ready to be proposed, but it cannot be always assumed.

Thanks Vojtěch Dostál (talk) 08:48, 4 August 2024 (UTC)

@Vojtěch Dostál, don’t mark proposal as "draft", marking as "draft" make an error in tracking, keep it blank. Regards, ZI Jony (Talk) 09:58, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
Ah, did the specification of the template change? It used to be that value "draft" was allowed. Blank used to be for ready-to-discuss proposals. Vojtěch Dostál (talk) 10:10, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
@Vojtěch Dostál, you are right, blank used status as ready-to-discuss. However, valid parameter of status is "done/ready/withdrawn/in progress/not done/on hold". Regards, ZI Jony (Talk) 10:27, 4 August 2024 (UTC)

Do not make any changes anymore to SIG.

Hi, ZI Jony. I'm Arin from SIG, please do not make any changes anymore to the Wikidata from SIG (https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q7449209). Semen Indonesia is being rebranded to SIG since 2020 and we're currently cleansing old assets from Semen Indonesia including old logo. Thank You. Arin (SIG) (talk) 09:17, 13 August 2024 (UTC)

@Arin (SIG), do you have references that prove the rebranding? Also you should be aware about the conflict of interest. Moreover, you have done is not the correct way, you supposed to open discussion to rename Wikipedia page on those Wikipedia instead of removing sitelinks. Regards, ZI Jony (Talk) 10:41, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
Hi, ZI Jony. You can read about the rebranding here [1] in Bahasa. Thank you. Arin (SIG) (talk) 04:42, 14 August 2024 (UTC)

Can you please help me changing the title of SIG's Wikipedia article?

Hi, ZI Jony, it's Arin from SIG. Can you please help me changing the title of SIG's Wikipedia article? (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semen_Indonesia_Group) it still has the wrong pronunciation of entity. I already added the new topic for discussion on its page, but still haven't got the response.

Since 2020, Semen Indonesia is being rebranded to SIG due to its business expansion. You can read about the rebranding here (https://money.kompas.com/read/2020/02/11/220800926/semen-indonesia-lakukan-rebranding).

SIG is currently removing all old assets including logo and entity's name. Besides, SIG is not an acronym for Semen Indonesia Group. The Wikipedia article is a crucial thing for everyone's first search about the company, and this brings misunderstood. Thank you. Arin (SIG) (talk) 06:32, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

@Arin (SIG), sorry for late response! I couldn’t assist you at this time, I would suggest you to start a renaming discussion on the article's talk page for each Wikipedia. Regards, ZI Jony (Talk) 20:38, 16 August 2024 (UTC)

Closing RFD's

Hi ZI Jony, please refrain from closing RFD's like you did here, here, and here. If you want to do this you have to go through WD:RFA. Thanks, --Ameisenigel (talk) 18:39, 12 September 2024 (UTC)

Well noted and thanks. Regards, ZI Jony (Talk) 19:09, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
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