Wikidata:Property proposal/External wiki
External Wiki ID
[edit]Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Generic
Description | an external wiki which relates to this topic. |
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Represents | wiki (Q171) |
Data type | Item |
Allowed values | wiki (Q171) |
Example 1 | Super Smash Bros. (Q2778220) → English SmashWiki (Q105063517) |
Example 2 | Heroes (Q83401) → Heroes Wiki (Q5743147) |
Example 3 | Animal Crossing (Q1139803) → Nookipedia (Q96754852) |
Example 4 | conservatism (Q7169) → Conservapedia (Q17963) |
Example 5 | SCP universe (Q59475808) → SCP Foundation (Q17439649) |
Robot and gadget jobs | No |
See also | Wikidata:Property proposal/Mediawiki Wiki |
Motivation
[edit]This is a generic version of Gamepedia wiki ID (P6867) and Fandom wiki ID (P4073) which allows for us to link items which represent Wikis to their subject (essentially a reverse of main subject (P921) for wikis). It can also be used as a qualifier for External Wiki URL below. I previously suggested a similar property for only MediaWiki wikis, but there was opposition based on its limited scope. –MJL ‐Tauk‐☖ 17:55, 20 August 2021 (UTC)
Discussion
[edit]Support --Trade (talk) 10:00, 24 August 2021 (UTC)
Question What does this suggested property do that can not be done with described by source (P1343)? /ℇsquilo 10:13, 24 August 2021 (UTC)
- The use case for this proposed property is not exactly the same as described by source. External wikis should not be used as a reference as described by source (P1343) implies. In many cases, this would also be similar to official website (P856) depending on the wiki and subject. –MJL ‐Tauk‐☖ 17:09, 24 August 2021 (UTC)
Support
Oppose I guess I have to agree with Jura. Lectrician1 (talk) 00:50, 26 August 2021 (UTC)
Oppose no need for inverse of "main subject". --- Jura 13:11, 26 August 2021 (UTC)
Oppose Conservapedia (Q17963)main subject (P921)conservatism (Q7169) is sufficient. --Tinker Bell ★ ♥ 06:13, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
Not done - no consensus to create this property --DannyS712 (talk) 01:07, 2 January 2022 (UTC)
External Wiki URL
[edit]Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Generic
Description | A URL which describes this topic on an external wiki. |
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Represents | wiki (Q171) |
Data type | URL |
Example 1 | MSPA Wiki (Q108170610) → https://wikiindex.org/MS_Paint_Adventures_Wiki |
Example 2 | Gary Johnson (Q352123) → https://lpedia.org/wiki/Gary_Earl_Johnson → LPedia, en, MediaWiki, 11648 |
Example 3 | Andrew Gower (Q2451677) → https://runescape.wiki/w/Andrew_Gower |
Example 4 | romantic comedy (Q860626) → https://fanlore.org/wiki/Romantic_Comedy → Fanlore (Q30973223) |
See also |
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Motivation
[edit]This is to go along with the above proposal. Essentially, if External Wiki ID is not added as a qualifier, then title (P1476), software engine (P408) (which must be a wiki software (Q6686945)), and language of work or name (P407) should be mandatory instead. If software engine (P408) is MediaWiki (Q83), then MediaWiki page ID (P9675) is suggested. The goal of these two properties is to be able to locate information from external wikis without requiring a new property for each site. –MJL ‐Tauk‐☖ 17:55, 20 August 2021 (UTC)
Discussion
[edit]- See Wikidata:Property proposal/Mediawiki Wiki.--GZWDer (talk) 18:50, 21 August 2021 (UTC)
Support --Trade (talk) 09:59, 24 August 2021 (UTC)
Oppose I think this is covered with described by source (P1343) and URL (P2699). That is more generic and does not require the external source to be a wiki. /ℇsquilo 10:15, 24 August 2021 (UTC)
- @Esquilo: Wikis are user edit-able, so the location in the URL is subject to frequent change (depending on the wiki). This property would allow us to use MediaWiki page ID (P9675) to a fuller extent. Additionally, it would help us keep track of which wikis contain what information (which is useful for things like imports). –MJL ‐Tauk‐☖ 17:07, 24 August 2021 (UTC)
Oppose Lectrician1 (talk) 00:45, 26 August 2021 (UTC)
Oppose use described at URL (P973) (once there are many for the same wiki, propose a property for that wiki). Maybe exact match (P2888) could be another option. --- Jura 13:11, 26 August 2021 (UTC)
- @Jura1: The whole point is that there are theoretically endless amounts of wikis we can make properties for. This would also mean we need to have items for every wiki currently in existence, that have ever existed, and will ever exist. –MJL ‐Tauk‐☖ 00:41, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
- So you would use this property to add all pages of "every wiki currently in existence, that have ever existed, and will ever exist.", but are not otherwise notable? --- Jura 07:08, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
- @Jura1: The whole point is that there are theoretically endless amounts of wikis we can make properties for. This would also mean we need to have items for every wiki currently in existence, that have ever existed, and will ever exist. –MJL ‐Tauk‐☖ 00:41, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
Oppose If a wiki has a subject, this relationship should be expressed in the wiki item, because is describing the wiki, not the subject. --Tinker Bell ★ ♥ 06:13, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
Not done - no consensus to create this property --DannyS712 (talk) 01:07, 2 January 2022 (UTC)