Wikidata:Property proposal/officialized by

officialized by

Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Lexemes

   Done: officialized by (P5194) (Talk and documentation)

Description	the item which officialized this lexeme
Data type	Item
Allowed values	Fundamento de Esperanto (Q427827), First Official Addition to the Universal Dictionary (Q25474404), Second Official Addition to the Universal Dictionary (Q25474396), Third Official Addition to the Universal Dictionary (Q25474400), Fourth Official Addition to the Universal Dictionary (Q25474407), Fifth Official Addition to the Universal Dictionary (Q25474412), Sixth Official Addition to the Universal Dictionary (Q25474425), Seventh Official Addition to the Universal Dictionary (Q25474388), Eighth Official Addition to the Universal Dictionary (Q25474401), Ninth Official Addition to the Universal Dictionary (Q12353097)
Example	balenosto (eo) → Fundamento de Esperanto (Q427827) vibri (eo) → First Official Addition to the Universal Dictionary (Q25474404) milimetro (eo) → Second Official Addition to the Universal Dictionary (Q25474396) ornitologio (eo) → Third Official Addition to the Universal Dictionary (Q25474400) murdi (eo) → Fourth Official Addition to the Universal Dictionary (Q25474407) bremso (eo) → Fifth Official Addition to the Universal Dictionary (Q25474412) ingredienco (eo) → Sixth Official Addition to the Universal Dictionary (Q25474425) biologo (eo) → Seventh Official Addition to the Universal Dictionary (Q25474388) vakcino (eo) → Eighth Official Addition to the Universal Dictionary (Q25474401) klitoro (eo) → Ninth Official Addition to the Universal Dictionary (Q12353097)

Motivation

Esperanto dictionaries usually indicate if a word is official and if yes when it was officialized. The Esperanto-only dictionaries PIV and ReVo do this by showing a number of the Official Addition to the Universal Dictionary (Q12353377) right next to an official word. The English Wiktionary and the French Wiktionary saves this information in categories.

Maybe this property could also be useful for some other languages besides Esperanto.

Robin van der Vliet (talk) (contribs) 15:25, 30 April 2018 (UTC)

Discussion

•  Support NMaia (talk) 15:30, 30 April 2018 (UTC)
•  Support. But maybe this property coud be used for normal Q item also? Tubezlob (🙋) 16:14, 30 April 2018 (UTC)
• Great one. Do usually Lexemes or Forms get officialized? --Denny (talk) 17:53, 30 April 2018 (UTC)
  • @Denny: Lexemes get officialized. Robin van der Vliet (talk) (contribs) 17:32, 21 May 2018 (UTC)
•  Support. YULdigitalpreservation (talk) 13:43, 1 May 2018 (UTC)
•  Comment I support the global idea which is good but 1. I feel like the term "officialized" is not appropriate (but I don't see a better alternative, "lexicalized" is good too but not the exact same thing) 2. it should be on form and not on lexeme (not all form appears at the same time, there is sometimes centuries between one form and another). Cdlt, VIGNERON (talk) 09:01, 3 May 2018 (UTC)
  • @VIGNERON: This proposed property is specifically about officialization and not about lexicalization. There is a clear difference between both concepts in Esperanto. The word "skolto" was officialized by Ninth Official Addition to the Universal Dictionary (Q12353097) (2007), but it was already used in Kruko and Baniko of Bervalo (Q20481088) (1970). Robin van der Vliet (talk) (contribs) 17:32, 21 May 2018 (UTC)
•  Comment maybe a more general property with information in which other dictionaries a word is listed in? For instance Deutsches Wörterbuch (Q96321) is important historically for German: an example is GW26937 for lexeme "Wort". -- JakobVoss (talk) 11:01, 8 May 2018 (UTC)
• @Robin van der Vliet, NMaia, Tubezlob: @Denny, YULdigitalpreservation, VIGNERON, JakobVoss:  Done ArthurPSmith (talk) 13:57, 23 May 2018 (UTC)