Wikidata:Property proposal/Archive/39

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ISO 12620 ID

Done: ISOCAT ID (P2263) (Talk and documentation)

Description	Numeric ID from the Data Category Registry, which is a registry of linguistic terms specified by w:ISO 12620, which is a standard from w:ISO/TC 37. Each item in the registry has a PID which is a stable URI which is accessible via a RESTful interface, and it is available under a Creative Commons license. There is a web interface to the Data Category Registry as well as more information at http://www.isocat.org/index.html.
Data type	String
Template parameter	none
Domain	part of speech (Q82042) (part of speech), grammatical gender (Q162378) (grammatical gender) e.g. at http://www.isocat.org/datcat/DC-4926, absolutive case (Q332734) (absolutive case) at http://www.isocat.org/datcat/DC-3059, dental consonant (Q120443) (dental consonant) at http://www.isocat.org/datcat/DC-3154, and generally any subclass of lexical item (Q2944660) (lexical item) or any item in the areas of syntax, morphosyntax, phonetics, or phonology, as well as many items in the areas of lexicography and translation.
Allowed values	four-digit number
Example	adjective (Q34698) => 1230
Format and edit filter validation	4 digit number can be validated with edit filter like Special:AbuseFilter/17)
Formatter URL	http://www.isocat.org/datcat/DC-$1
Robot and gadget jobs	validation
Proposed by	Haplology (talk)

Discussion

The DCR is created and maintained by scholars all over the world. It is the subject of numerous scholarly publications (http://www.isocat.org/files/publications.html). Supporting items with links to the DCR could help with integration with Wiktionary in the future. Haplology (talk) 03:04, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

Comment As for the example: Why not 4948, 5748, or [2765 2765] for adjective (Q34698)? From my understanding, ISO 12620 is about implementing a registry for linguistic terminologies, i.e. existing vocabularies are imported to provide some kind of centralized system of reference. And isocat is one specific registry implementing that standard. Its identifiers are specific to isocat and not to ISO 12620. The listed terminilogies still exist in parallel, no attempts are made to create a combined vocabulary. Thus any concept ("class") may occurr many times in the registry. Intended usage of isocat seems not to provide direct points of refrence but rather to construct specific new sets of terminological classes for specific projects. But maybe I'm completely off the track... -- Gymel (talk) 08:27, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

@Haplology: Do you wish to comment on the above? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:51, 6 March 2015 (UTC)

Suggest to rename to "ISOCAT id", it's better known by that name. I am of two minds about it... Sharing Gymel's opinion, it's a grab bag of all sort of linguistic concepts, not particularly organized (eg compared to the OLIA NLP ontologies). But overall, I like to connect to any sort of Authority or Thesaurus... So a hesitant Support. --Vladimir Alexiev (talk) 14:38, 12 March 2015 (UTC)

Support Wikidata is a bit of a grab bag too. Should be a good match. maybe, when it's done we can combine this with the work @Popcorndude: is doing on classifying grammar terms. Joe Filceolaire (talk) 17:19, 21 August 2015 (UTC)

Support Popcorndude (talk) 17:40, 21 August 2015 (UTC)

Support. Runner1928 (talk) 18:12, 15 October 2015 (UTC)

@Haplology, Runner1928, Pigsonthewing, Filceolaire, Vladimir Alexiev, Gymel:

Done ISOCAT ID (P2263)

mix'n'match catalogue ID

Done: Mix'n'match catalog ID (P2264) (Talk and documentation)

Description	...
Data type	String
Domain	properties
Allowed values	[1-9][0-9]+
Example	Art & Architecture Thesaurus ID (P1014) → 48
Source	https://tools.wmflabs.org/mix-n-match/
Formatter URL	https://tools.wmflabs.org/mix-n-match/?mode=catalog_details&catalog=$1

Motivation

To be used in properties: direct link to user:Magnus Manske's mix'n'match tool. Example: Art & Architecture Thesaurus ID (P1014) -> 48 Zolo (talk) 08:18, 15 October 2015 (UTC)

Discussion

Support. Runner1928 (talk) 18:12, 15 October 2015 (UTC)
@Zolo: can you elaborate what for? --Vladimir Alexiev (talk) 17:06, 16 October 2015 (UTC)

@Vladimir Alexiev: simply because it is often more efficient to add identifiers from mix'n'match, and it is an easy way to tell contributors that it is there. I am not sure it can have more sophisticated uses than that, but I don't see any what hard there can be in having it. -Zolo (talk) 17:23, 16 October 2015 (UTC)

Support would come very handy. -- Gymel (talk) 20:34, 16 October 2015 (UTC)
@Zolo: Please use the property documentation template when proposing a property - if you click the blue "Add a request" button near the top of the page, it will be included already. If you don't know what to put for a particular line, you can always leave the value blank and other people can help fill it in. I've added it for all three of your requests and filled out as much as I could, could you have a look and see if you can fill in any of the gaps (the description is still missing for all three, the example for Orsay Museum artist ID should be changed to point to the right item and most of the fields for Artprice ID are missing)? - Nikki (talk) 01:46, 19 October 2015 (UTC)

@Nikki: thanks, I know how to use this template, but filling it here is just a waste of time. It is absolutely not needed to make the proposal understandable, and it will have to be rewritten as statements once the property is created (whenever possible {{Property documentation}} on property talk pages should use data transcluded from the property itself rather than hardcoded local parameters) --Zolo (talk) 07:29, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
- @Zolo: I disagree that it's a waste of time. It presents the information in a clearer and more consistent way which is translated where possible. It helps us to make sure properties are well defined before they're added and makes it as accessible as we can for people who speak little or no English (this is supposed to be a multilingual project). I don't see how you're helping anyone other than yourself by refusing to use it. - Nikki (talk) 13:49, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
  - Sometimes a single sentence is more clearer. It's translatable and easily understood. Imagine the waste of time trying to figure out a template filled in by a guy who adds random stuff in it, seeking input for a property he doesn't intend to use, .. --- Jura 21:46, 19 October 2015 (UTC)

@Nikki: I don't say it is better not to add the template, just that it is simpler and just as good. If I look at what you added: the datatype, which was self-evident, "source : mixandmatch", which is rather pointless, and the URL pattern, wich is indeed useful once the property is created but is rather pointless before that, and will have to be added through statements rather than wikicode. --Zolo (talk) 17:05, 24 October 2015 (UTC)

Support Pikolas (talk) 01:50, 22 October 2015 (UTC)

@Gymel, Runner 1928, Pikolas:

Done. --Zolo (talk) 16:52, 31 October 2015 (UTC)

Fashion Model Directory ID

Done: FMD model ID (P2266) (Talk and documentation)

Description	external link to a model's profile at the Fashion Model Directory (FMD) website
Represents	The Fashion Model Directory (FMD) (Q963517)
Data type	String
Template parameter	Q9642442
Domain	types of items that may bear this property
Allowed values	type of linked items (Q template or text), list or range of allowed values, string pattern...
Example	Emily Ratajkowski (Q5372335) → emily_ratajkowski
Source	external reference, Wikipedia list article, etc.
Formatter URL	http://www.fashionmodeldirectory.com/models/$1
Robot and gadget jobs	Should or are bots or gadgets doing any task with this? (Checking other properties for consistency, collecting data, etc.)

Motivation

Widely used--Edoardo88 (talk) 14:10, 16 October 2015 (UTC)

Discussion

Support. Joe Filceolaire (talk) 21:50, 25 October 2015 (UTC)

@Edoardo88, Filceolaire: done: P2266. --Zolo (talk) 16:52, 31 October 2015 (UTC)

Politifact Personality Identifier

Done: PolitiFact people and groups ID (P2267) (Talk and documentation)

Description	Person or group whose statements have been fact checked by Politifact.com
Data type	String
Template parameter	A small subset are identified via the Conglinks infobox with an undocumented field "politifact"
Domain	People, organizations
Allowed values	text
Example	Barack Obama (Q76) → barack-obama
Source	Politifact.com
Formatter URL	http://www.politifact.com/personalities/$1/

Motivation

Politifact is a widely respected project of major newspaper. A variety of applications could benefit from being able to cross reference. Thinkcontext (talk) 20:53, 16 October 2015 (UTC)

Discussion

Support and we should do topics too: http://www.politifact.com/subjects/economy/ Runner1928 (talk) 23:55, 16 October 2015 (UTC)
Support Agreed. Pikolas (talk) 11:22, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
@Thinkcontext: Please provide an example value. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 18:19, 23 October 2015 (UTC)
- @Pigsonthewing: Is the change I made what you meant? Thinkcontext (talk) 13:39, 27 October 2015 (UTC)
  - Not quite, but I've added a link and it should be OK now. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:29, 27 October 2015 (UTC)
@Runner1928, Pikolas, Thinkcontext: Done PolitiFact people and groups ID (P2267). --Zolo (talk) 16:52, 31 October 2015 (UTC)

Orsay Museum artist ID

Done: Musée d'Orsay artist ID (P2268) (Talk and documentation)

Description	...
Data type	String
Domain	artists
Allowed values	[1-9][0-9]+
Example	Claude Monet (Q296) → 18495
Source	http://www.musee-orsay.fr/
Formatter URL	http://www.musee-orsay.fr/fr/espace-professionnels/professionnels/chercheurs/rech-rec-art-home/notice-artiste.html?nnumid=$1

Motivation

ID of an artist in the database of Musée d'Orsay. Example Claude Monet 18495.

Artists seem to be alphabetically sorted. I hope they do not shift all numbers when they want to add a new one, but I don't think they do. Descriptions of well known artists are short, but they may put more effort into the lesser knowns like Maurice Favre

Notified participants of WikiProject Visual arts

--Zolo (talk) 16:38, 18 October 2015 (UTC)

Discussion

Support. ID values go pretty high and don't seem to be alphabetical fully. E.g., http://www.musee-orsay.fr/fr/espace-professionnels/professionnels/chercheurs/rech-rec-art-home/notice-artiste.html?nnumid=10001 Runner1928 (talk) 00:35, 19 October 2015 (UTC)

@Runner1928: Done. P2268. --Zolo (talk) 16:52, 31 October 2015 (UTC)

Emporis building complex ID

(I don't fill up the whole proposal, that is tiresome and obsolete: useless for discussing the proposal, and would have to be filled up again in the proper format on the entity itself, let's keep things simple)

Motivation

There are several types of ID in the Emporis database. Emporis building ID (P455) only supports buildings, not building complexes. See https://www.emporis.com/complex/127099 vs https://www.emporis.com/buildings/127099. Another solution would be to keep a single property but to include the prefix in the value. That might be more foolproof, but that would require changing everything that has already been done and used. Zolo (talk) 09:10, 10 October 2015 (UTC)

Discussion

Support. Runner1928 (talk) 18:12, 15 October 2015 (UTC)
Oppose Insufficient detail due to incomplete proposal. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 18:32, 23 October 2015 (UTC)
- @Pigsonthewing: what exactly is missing ? I am just just proposing to do the same as Emporis building ID (P455) but with /complex/ in the URL instead of /building. (I just removed the property documentation template, as it is really pointless here) -Zolo (talk) 16:54, 24 October 2015 (UTC)
  - This was explained to you by User:Nikki on this page, on 19 October. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:35, 24 October 2015 (UTC)

@Runner1928, Pigsonthewing: done, been around for enough time, obviously acceptable given that we already have Emporis building ID (P455), the reason for opposing the creation was just meaningless. --Zolo (talk) 16:52, 31 October 2015 (UTC)

Base HP + Base Attack + Base Defense + Base Special Attack + Base Special Defense + Base Speed

Not done

Description	The base value of the HP/Attack/Defense/Special Attack/Special Defense/Speed of a Pokémon
Data type	Number (not available yet)
Template parameter	No till now, but possible in itwiki.
Domain	All Objects with: instance of (P31) = Pokémon species (Q3966183)
Allowed values	1-255
Example	(Example with Special Attack) Pikachu (Q9351) → 50
Format and edit filter validation	Check if it is between 1 and 255 (This are all theoretical possible values, till now there are between following lines: HP: 1-255 Attack: 5-190 Defense: 5-230 Sp. Attack: 10-194 Sp. Defense: 20-230 Speed: 5-180 This can change every time there are new Pokémon, which is ca. one time in three years, but will every be between 1 and 255.
Source	www.serebii.net, www.pokewiki.de, bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net, www.pokefans.net, …
Robot and gadget jobs	It were possible in the most cases to extract the data from not WMF Wikis.

Motivation

I want to document more data about Pokémon at Wikidata, and for that some new Properties are needed, without this can't work. These are some of them, that are really similar to each other. --MGChecker (talk) 18:33, 31 May 2015 (UTC)

Discussion

This seems overly specific, as there are probably similar potential properties from other video games and fiction. Maybe there's some way to have a more generic property for all of these? (Another potential problem to consider is whether there could be copyright concerns with importing this data.) --Yair rand (talk) 22:24, 31 May 2015 (UTC)
I think it could be useful even if it's only used for Pokémon:
- There are some other specific Pokémon properties till now: P1112 (P1112) and Pokémon index (P1685).
- Each of them would be used at least 721 times and counting.
- They are only numbers that could everyone calculate out of the game data, I think they have now threshold of originality.
- I know a German wiki (www.pokewiki.org), with CC 3.0-by-sa,. as Wikimedia projects, from which data was imported as well.
- I'm preety sure that the data I want to use is completely right (I guess, between 99.7% and 100%), because they are patrolling the RC really mindful by using patrolling as validated revisions.
- Every data what would be needed for the new properties were in one template except of around 50 special cases.
I don't know in which cases, but i can imagine really good that HP, Attack, DEfense and Speed could be good for other games too. (I only don't know if there fix points like the base stats of a pokémon.)
By the way, I think other properties as Pokémon type (really basic) and much more, but I don't know if objects for items (of the game), attacks, abiliities and properties for attack strength, levels where they learn new attacks, gender ratio, abilities, catch rate, egg groups, EV yield, height, weight, species and so on would go to wide. ( Look here, Wikidata and fnacruft is an interesting topic, yesterday I have discussed about it with Sjoerddebruin at IRC. But I think type and the 6 properties proposed in this section are really basic. --MGChecker (talk) 15:47, 1 June 2015 (UTC)
Oppose I have two problems with this. From a statistics perspective, it is far better to record the actual values of the component statistics in the database, and allow the client to build the derived statistic from them. However, that leads to my second issue, and that is the question of whether we are going to start recording game statistics in WD. As stated, statistics such as hit points, speed, defense, etc. are used by a ton of games, and there are many more stats that are widely used as well. If we are going to open this door, I think it needs to be discussed and implemented more comprehensively. Josh Baumgartner (talk) 16:33, 11 June 2015 (UTC)
@MGChecker, Yair rand:

Not done due to lack of consensus.

Archived

construct has conceptual overlap with

Not done

Description	measures of the strength, or assessments of presence, of these two constructs correlate
Data type	Item
Example	surgency (Q7646185) → introversion and extraversion (Q127588), grit (Q4453370) → conscientiousness (Q1307067)

Motivation

I want this for my work with personality traits. There are many named traits and many of them are highly similar to one-another. Antrocent (talk) 06:38, 29 June 2015 (UTC)

Discussion: Comment Not a good idea to start a proposal saying "I want this for my work". A property is not a personal tool but a general tool which have to be useful for everyone. Snipre (talk) 07:48, 29 June 2015 (UTC); Oppose This could be handled by partially coincident with (P1382) (with perhaps minor tweaking of its description and aliases) and/or said to be the same as (P460). Swpb (talk) 19:28, 24 September 2015 (UTC)

@Antrocent, Snipre, Swpb:

Not done due to lack of consensus.

Archived Josh Baumgartner (talk) 00:41, 7 November 2015 (UTC)

price

Done: price (P2284) (Talk and documentation)

Description	Price per unit or package of something. Only for notable public pricing information (e.g. cost of an essential medication).
Represents	price (Q160151)
Data type	Quantity
Template parameter	Unknown
Domain	medication (Q12140), medical procedure (Q796194)
Allowed values	number with currency
Example	(RS)-warfarin (Q407431) --> Warfarin sodium 1 mg tab-cap (Q21064745) → 1.18 u.s. dollars (Qualifiers for "price quoted by" = Sudan NHIF)
Source	E.g. International Drug Price Indicator Guide - 2014 Edition (Q21061075) (http://erc.msh.org/dmpguide/pdf/DrugPriceGuide_2014.pdf)
Robot and gadget jobs	The import will be done by a bot.

Motivation

This is essential data to inform users of publicly available prices. Please note that this would require a few thousand items to be created for different dosages and presentations (tablet, injection, ...) of the drugs. Tobias1984 (talk) 17:44, 5 October 2015 (UTC)

Comment The last proposal was archived here: Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/5#Price

Discussion

Notified participants of WikiProject Medicine --Tobias1984 (talk) 17:45, 5 October 2015 (UTC)

Support. Joe Filceolaire (talk) 19:00, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
Support. In software industry there can be worldwide prices, with references provided --Ilya (talk) 00:09, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
Support not sure about the sample given. --- Jura 11:39, 27 October 2015 (UTC)
Oppose as restricted to medicine, but Support as a generic property applicable to any item (domain = product (Q2424752)). Josh Baumgartner (talk) 19:38, 27 October 2015 (UTC)

Done --Tobias1984 (talk) 10:13, 8 November 2015 (UTC)

price (en)

Done: price (P2284) (Talk and documentation)

Description	voy:Template:Listing
Data type	Number (not available yet)
Proposed by	GZWDer (talk) 10:39, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

Discussion

Support I support the idea, but we would need a currency identifier too. Does this mean we need a new datatype "Price"? Or use 2 properties (would not be as elegant)? Nicolas1981 (talk) 08:01, 28 November 2013 (UTC)
Support with number with dimension datatype as Nicolas. This will need qualifiers to specify what the price relates to (single room, double room etc.) and the date it was accurate. Filceolaire (talk) 07:17, 30 November 2013 (UTC)

Support -- Der Fussi 11:26, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

Support --NatiSythen (talk) 07:59, 28 January 2014 (UTC)
Support Both price(s) and currency identifiers, ranges, list of prices should be specifiable. --RolandUnger (talk) 13:10, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

On hold It requires the datatype quantity with units.--Micru (talk) 12:17, 19 October 2014 (UTC)

Done @Nicolas1981, DerFussi, NatiSythen, RolandUnger: --Micru (talk) 15:22, 27 February 2016 (UTC)

Periapsis date

Done: periapsis date (DEPRECATED) (P2285) (Talk and documentation)

Description	The date of periapsis of anything in any kind of orbit. (Planets, Comets, Satellites etc)
Data type	Point in time
Template parameter	`nästa_perihelium` and `förra_perihelium` in sv:Mall:Infobox planet
Domain	astronomical objects or artificial satellites
Allowed values	time for perihelim/perigeum/periwhatever in each orbit
Example	1986-02-05 => Halley's Comet (Q23054)
Format and edit filter validation	no
Source	JPL Small-Body Database (Q4026990)
Robot and gadget jobs	yes

Discussion

Especially useful for Comets, but can be applied to any kind of object.

Proposed by: Innocent bystander (talk)

Instead of having one property for perihelium and one for perigeum etc, I choose one periapsis-property for them all. Separating last/next_periapsis can be solved with software, when you compare with current date. One potential problem is satellites with short orbit, which can have hundreds of periapsis for one single year. -- Innocent bystander (talk) 11:20, 22 March 2015 (UTC)

Comment Why not use significant event (P793). Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 21:06, 24 April 2015 (UTC)
- @Pigsonthewing: I do not know if it really can be called "significant", but it's definitely possible to use such properties. I think the disintegration/collision of objects (like SL9) or a rendez-vous with a man made object (like 67P) better can be described as a significant event than something that happens every orbit or flyby. -- Innocent bystander (talk) 14:13, 25 April 2015 (UTC)
  - I've added your example date to Halley's Comet (Q23054). Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:00, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
    - and I've added two more periapsis dates to 'Halley's Comet (Q23054)', using 'significant event'. Still not sure which is better. Filceolaire (talk) 23:36, 17 May 2015 (UTC)

Oppose use significant event (P793) --Pasleim (talk) 22:42, 20 May 2015 (UTC)

Comment and

Support We can have statements on properties. Make this property a subclass of (P279) of significant event (P793) in my opinion. If a query wants a broad return it says tree[p793][][p279]. If it needs a just the periapsis date (important for infoboxes) a query or bot can use claim[thisproperty]. Periapsis date it too important to sieve it out of the random values that could be returned by a p793 query. --Tobias1984 (talk) 20:42, 18 October 2015 (UTC)

Support.Joe Filceolaire (talk) 16:49, 12 September 2015 (UTC)

Done --Tobias1984 (talk) 10:45, 8 November 2015 (UTC)

arterial supply

Done: arterial supply (P2286) (Talk and documentation)

Description	arterial supply of an anatomical structure
Data type	Item
Template parameter	"artery" in en:template:infobox anatomy
Domain	anatomical structures
Allowed values	text
Example	liver (Q9368) → hepatic artery proper (Q542166)
Source	Wikipedia infoboxes, external references
Robot and gadget jobs	I am not familiar with process of filling wikidata from infoboxes, but I am guessing it will be a bot task

Motivation

These paired relations between anatomical structures and their arterial supply are well-defined, and currently absent. --Wesalius (talk) 08:40, 31 October 2015 (UTC)

Discussion

Notified participants of WikiProject Medicine

Comment I changed the datatype to "item" which I think was implied from the example. --Tobias1984 (talk) 13:03, 2 November 2015 (UTC)

Support. Joe Filceolaire (talk) 01:46, 4 November 2015 (UTC)

Done --Tobias1984 (talk) 10:53, 8 November 2015 (UTC)

Fédération Française de Golf ID

Not done

Description	Fédération Française de Golf professionnal golfer id
Data type	String
Allowed values	7-digits number
Example	0565613
Format and edit filter validation	Special:AbuseFilter/17
Source	external reference, Wikipedia list article, etc.
Formatter URL	http://web.ffgolf.org/merite_pro/meritepro_joueur_id.php?nojou=$1&annee=2015&circuit=tous&from_site=www

Motivation

Source for professionnal french golfers. JeanBono (talk) 06:37, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

Discussion

Comment: @JeanBono: Datatype changed to string (as is usual for integer identifiers). A formatter URL with the year "2015" in it doesn't look sustainable. Please provide the "Q" value for your example. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 09:57, 4 June 2015 (UTC)
Support. Clear and useful. Josh Baumgartner (talk) 17:48, 5 June 2015 (UTC)
@JeanBono: Please can you respond to pigsonthewing above, or if it doesn't make sense I can try to explain more. MSGJ (talk) 12:18, 11 June 2015 (UTC)
I don't understand what to add about my request. Your submission form is quite difficult to understand for me. This was just a tryout, I don't really care about golfers. I think I won't try to submit something again. JeanBono (talk) 16:09, 11 June 2015 (UTC)
Okay, well if you need a property for something that you do care about, then feel free to ask for help. MSGJ (talk) 11:25, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
Information seems dependent on year and also the circuit. There is no landing page for each person, so not sure how this could be incorporated into a property. MSGJ (talk) 11:30, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
URL datatype would the way to go. We already use this for another site that doesn't have identifiers. --- Jura 11:37, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
But if it's dependent on year, the best we could offer would the current year's statistics. I don't think this is very useful. Oppose unless a better formatter URL is available MSGJ (talk) 21:04, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
Is there any guarantee that the IDs are consistent, and consistently unique, across different years? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 18:40, 6 July 2015 (UTC)
- No? So Oppose. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 22:45, 8 October 2015 (UTC)
Oppose per Andy, would need some examples of how it would work for other years. As far as I am aware, the formatter does not support complex constructions. Josh Baumgartner (talk) 21:47, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
Comment archiving this, even the proposer seems to have lost interest. --- Jura 11:20, 8 November 2015 (UTC)

CRIStin ID

Done: CRIStin ID (P2287) (Talk and documentation)

Description	CRIStin ID
Represents	CRIStin (Q4579753)
Data type	String
Template parameter	used in the template no:Mal:Cristin.
Domain	person
Allowed values	number
Example	Dag Olav Hessen (Q5208426) → 23048 May-Britt Moser (Q6796222) => 41970
Source	CRIStin
Formatter URL	http://www.cristin.no/as/WebObjects/cristin.woa/wa/personVis?type=PERSON&action=sok&pnr=$1
Robot and gadget jobs	Can be imported from no:Mal:Cristin templates. More values might be imported from matching name and institution. Can be used as a source for e.g. occupation (P106), employer (P108)

Motivation

A unique identifier for all Norway-based researchers. Danmichaelo (talk) 19:07, 1 November 2015 (UTC)

Discussion: Done Identifier used on Wikipedia. --Tobias1984 (talk) 13:04, 8 November 2015 (UTC)

DfE URN

Done: DfE URN (P2253) (Talk and documentation)

Description	Department for Education URN is an ID used by the UK gov. to identify schools.
Template parameter	"urn" in en:template:infobox UK school
Domain	Any type of UK school which has been assigned an URN
Allowed values	educational organisations
Robot and gadget jobs	Could be gathered from infoboxes.

Motivation: Provides a direct link to an official government database where further information can be found. Danrok (talk) 23:55, 4 October 2015 (UTC)

Danrok (talk) 23:55, 4 October 2015 (UTC)

Discussion

Support. (added the formatter url). Joe Filceolaire (talk) 18:34, 6 October 2015 (UTC)
Comment: This is not an URN and they call it UKPRN. 101846 states as explanation next to the number: The UKPRN is a reference number issued by the UK Register of Learning Providers (UKRLP). This number is issued to all Educational establishments registered on the UKRLP. Further information on the UKRLP can be obtained from http://www.ukrlp.co.uk/. -- Gymel (talk) 10:49, 10 October 2015 (UTC)
Support. Even better if we can import information from this database later. Runner1928 (talk) 14:58, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
Support Pikolas (talk) 18:10, 23 October 2015 (UTC)

@Danrok, Filceolaire, Gymel, Runner1928, Pikolas: Done DfE URN (P2253). Further discussion on labels and aliases may take place on its talk page. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 18:43, 23 October 2015 (UTC)

lymphatic drainage

Done: lymphatic drainage (P2288) (Talk and documentation)

Description	lymphatic drainage of an anatomical structure
Data type	Item
Template parameter	"lymph" in en:template:infobox anatomy
Domain	anatomical structures
Allowed values	text
Example	uterus (Q9612) → Paraaortic lymph node (Q7133679), uterus (Q9612) → internal iliac lymph nodes (Q6047876)
Source	Wikipedia infoboxes, external references
Robot and gadget jobs	I am not familiar with process of filling wikidata from infoboxes, but I am guessing it will be a bot task

Motivation

These paired relations between anatomical structures and their arterial supply are well-defined, and currently absent. --Wesalius (talk) 08:40, 31 October 2015 (UTC)

Discussion

Notified participants of WikiProject Medicine

Support --Tobias1984 (talk) 16:43, 7 November 2015 (UTC)

Done --Tobias1984 (talk) 13:18, 8 November 2015 (UTC)

venous drainage

Done: venous drainage (P2289) (Talk and documentation)

Description	venous drainage of an anatomical structure
Data type	Item
Template parameter	"vein" in en:template:infobox anatomy
Domain	anatomical structures
Allowed values	text
Example	uterus (Q9612) → uterine vein (Q1165173)
Source	Wikipedia infoboxes, external references
Robot and gadget jobs	I am not familiar with process of filling wikidata from infoboxes, but I am guessing it will be a bot task

Motivation

These paired relations between anatomical structures and their venous drainage are well-defined, and currently absent. --Wesalius (talk) 08:40, 31 October 2015 (UTC)

Discussion

Notified participants of WikiProject Medicine

Support --Tobias1984 (talk) 16:44, 7 November 2015 (UTC)

Done --Tobias1984 (talk) 13:26, 8 November 2015 (UTC)

UEFA player code

Done: UEFA player ID (P2276) (Talk and documentation)

Description	identifier for a soccer player per UEFA
Data type	String
Domain	Q19595382, Q19847637
Allowed values	numeric - no range found - actual length 9 numbers
Example	Isabella Möller (Q21016933) → 250082223
Formatter URL	http://www.uefa.com/teamsandplayers/players/player=$1
Robot and gadget jobs	none

Motivation

Why only FIFA player code? UEFA (Europe) soccer games and stats are also a useful information.
I don't know, if it is possible to replace the www in www.uefa.com with de or fr for German and French users.
http://de.uefa.com/teamsandplayers/players/player=$1
http://fr.uefa.com/teamsandplayers/players/player=$1

--Plagiat (talk) 08:52, 28 September 2015 (UTC)

Discussion

Support as a useful source for information about soccer players. I've tweaked the example to make it clearer.
Comment @Plagiat: See Finnish Ministers database ID (P2182). It is possible to create a LUA-module in your homewiki which prefer the French or German version of the formatter URL (P1630) in the property-item to create the links. I am not sure it is as easy to do the same here. (It is probably possible to do it here also, but it would most likely slow down the loading of the page even more.) I have done something like that in a module on my homewiki, but since I am not a very good lua-hacker, you probably should ask somebody else to help you. -- Innocent bystander (talk) 07:28, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
Support This appears to be a stable source with a proper formatter. Josh Baumgartner (talk) 22:25, 21 October 2015 (UTC)

Magdeburger Biographisches Lexikon

Done: Magdeburger Biographisches Lexikon ID (P2277) (Talk and documentation)

Description	biography in the Magdeburger Biographisches Lexikon (MBL)
Represents	Magdeburger Biographisches Lexikon (Q1680521)
Data type	String
Template parameter	w:de:Vorlage:MBL
Domain	persons from the Magdeburg area
Example	Franz Karl Achard (Q60193) → 0504
Format and edit filter validation	4 digit number
Source	external reference: [1]
Formatter URL	http://www.uni-magdeburg.de/mbl/Biografien/$1.htm
Robot and gadget jobs	yes

Motivation

The Magdeburger Biographisches Lexikon (MBL) was published in 2002 and digitized from 2002 to 2007. The digital version features updated version of the printed biographies as well as some additional ones (a total of 1795 biographies). It would be a great addition to our repository of biographical databases. Jonathan Groß (talk) 09:45, 19 October 2015 (UTC)

Discussion

Support I think we can create this property without any hazard. Jonathan Groß (talk) 09:44, 4 November 2015 (UTC)

Member of the Hellenic Parliament ID

Done: Member of the Hellenic Parliament ID (P2278) (Talk and documentation)

Description	...
Represents	member of the Hellenic Parliament (Q18915989)
Data type	String
Domain	human
Allowed values	string of numbers and letters in a patern of: `dddddddd-dddd-dddd-dddd-dddddddddddd`
Example	Liana Kanelli (Q2628736) → 5e6d3676-ad5a-44e8-a997-ffaa03024f1e
Format and edit filter validation	(sample: 7 digit number can be validated with edit filter Special:AbuseFilter/17)
Source	http://www.hellenicparliament.gr/en/Vouleftes/Diatelesantes-Vouleftes-Apo-Ti-Metapolitefsi-Os-Simera/
Formatter URL	http://www.hellenicparliament.gr/en/Vouleftes/Diatelesantes-Vouleftes-Apo-Ti-Metapolitefsi-Os-Simera/?MpId=$1
Robot and gadget jobs	Data can be collected and imported to Wikidata, probably through mix'n'match.

Motivation

The official Hellenic Parliament website has information about all members of the paliament from 1974 until today.

For all of them the minimum is data about when they were elected, resigned (or died), changed party etc. [2]
At least for the current members it has a short bio, contact information and the parliamentary commitees they belong to. [3]
It even has their speeches for the last 6-7 years [4]

The MpId corresponds to a member of the parliament. Information is given through various URLs with the same MpId.

That would give very good information to be used for any reason, for links from Wikipedia or for extracting more information to put in Wikidata.

Initial data can be collected and imported to Wikidata, probably through mix'n'match.

geraki ^talk 07:32, 20 October 2015 (UTC)

Discussion

Support Seems like a great addition. Jonathan Groß (talk) 16:31, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
Support as proposed. Josh Baumgartner (talk) 21:44, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
Support Thryduulf (talk: local | en.wp | en.wikt) 12:51, 26 October 2015 (UTC)

Austrian Parliament ID

Done: Austrian Parliament ID (P2280) (Talk and documentation)

Template parameter	de:Vorlage:Parlament-at
Domain	references for members of the austrian parliament. Each member of the National Council or the Federal Council has it's own site at the websites of the Austrian parliament which should be linked
Allowed values	id (see sample)
Source	see de:Vorlage:Parlament-at

Motivation

References for members of the Austrian parliament could be set much easier if we had this property, which is quite similar to Swiss parliament ID (P1307). The given ID links to the biography of each member of parliament on the parliaments website. Even some high-ranking Austrian politicians that have never been members of parliament formally have their sites with a short biography at the parliaments website. Plani (talk) 15:54, 26 October 2015 (UTC) @Plani: Move from Property proposal/Reference

Discussion

Support --Magnus Manske (talk) 16:47, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
Support as proposed. Josh Baumgartner (talk) 16:49, 28 October 2015 (UTC)
Support --Olaf Kosinsky (talk) 23:59, 28 October 2015 (UTC)

@Plani, Magnus Manske, Joshbaumgartner, Olaf Kosinsky: Done Austrian Parliament ID (P2280) Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:43, 6 November 2015 (UTC)

Swedish Film Database person ID

Done: Swedish Film Database person ID (P2168) (Talk and documentation)

Description	Swedish database of people related to films
Represents	Swedish Film Database (Q1139587)
Data type	String
Template parameter	sfdb in sv:Mall:Infobox Skådespelare
Domain	human (Q5)
Allowed values	numbers
Example	Stellan Skarsgård (Q208667) → 69649
Formatter URL	http://www.sfi.se/sv/svensk-filmdatabas/Item/?type=PERSON&itemid=$1

Motivation

Used widly on sv.wp and is a database of films and actors etc. (also see sv:Mall:SFDb; a common acronym used for this database is SFDb) (t) Josve05a (c) 22:28, 12 September 2015 (UTC)

Discussion

There is Property:P1413 which seems to be about the same. --- Jura 11:37, 22 September 2015 (UTC)

Oh, in that case, never mind. I hadn't seen that one...weird... (t) Josve05a (c) 15:12, 25 September 2015 (UTC)

@Josve05a: I would, however, support splitting P1413 (P1413) into separate properties for each type. P1413 was modelled on the Anime News Network ID property (see Wikidata:Property proposal/Archive/24#P1413), which was split in Wikidata:Property proposal/Archive/33#Anime News Network ID) and it seems that all the same reasons would apply here. - Nikki (talk) 15:35, 25 September 2015 (UTC)

Makes sense to split this up. Do we have any other such "invented" identifiers that should be split? --- Jura 11:58, 27 September 2015 (UTC)

Hmm... I'm not familiar with all of the identifiers we have, so there might be some I don't know about. The only thing I can think of right now is Rotten Tomatoes ID (P1258), but that one is weird in general, since the actual ID isn't visible on the site or in the URL, it's only used in the page source and API. - Nikki (talk) 20:58, 5 October 2015 (UTC)

Support introducing differentiated properties and subsequent deprecation of P1413 (P1413) (currently used in 65 items) seems the right thing to do. -- Gymel (talk) 12:36, 26 September 2015 (UTC)

Support --Steenth (talk) 10:01, 5 October 2015 (UTC)

Support, separate properties is better --Vladimir Alexiev (talk) 17:08, 16 October 2015 (UTC)

Done created by User:GZWDer --Pasleim (talk) 14:54, 19 October 2015 (UTC)

Danish parish code

Done: Danish parish code (P2290) (Talk and documentation)

Description	identifier for an parish in Denmark
Data type	String
Allowed values	4 digits, \d{4}
Example	7522 for Faxe Parish (Q1398978) (sogn.dk/faxe/fakta-om-sognet/)
Source	http://sogn.dk/, http://miliki.dk/fileadmin/share/Struktur/sognelister06.htm, http://www.dst.dk/extranet/staticsites/TIMES3/html/00bdbda7-3a5d-427f-955b-dfda5c97ba15.htm

Motivation

Easier way to map data from external sources like Statistics Denmark to wikipedia articles. Steenth (talk) --Steenth (talk) 21:05, 6 September 2015 (UTC)

Support Seem usefull. --Fralambert (talk) 22:11, 6 September 2015 (UTC)

Strangely that website doesn't use 7522 as an identifier - it uses faxe (the parish name). Even searching on 7522 doesn't bring something up. Joe Filceolaire (talk) 22:42, 6 September 2015 (UTC)

Best example of use is http://www.statistikbanken.dk/KM1 --Steenth (talk) 06:01, 7 September 2015 (UTC)

And that site uses a 7 digit code; not the 4 digit code you have given. Searching on "7522" doesn't find anything useful. Are you sure this code is actually useful for something? 'Cause the examples you have come up with don't support that. Joe Filceolaire (talk) 15:27, 12 September 2015 (UTC)

@Filceolaire: In KM1 is the format uuu-nnnn where uuu is municipality code (Denmark) (P1168) and nnnn is parish code. Some parishes has areas in 2 or 3 municipalities - fx 9251 - Padesø Parish (Q2045938) --Steenth (talk) 15:54, 12 September 2015 (UTC)

Really Steenth? because it's item only says it is in Nordfyn Municipality (Q20770)? I am ready to support this proposal if you can show an example of where it can actually be used - a formatter url that actually links to something useful for example. Should we use the 7 digit code instead so the formatter url can link to www.statistikbanken.dk? Padesø Parish (Q2045938) can have three values for this. Joe Filceolaire (talk) 15:39, 18 September 2015 (UTC)

Parish code is a 4 digit code! See here - same site as KM1. It is precisely documentation of parish codes. 7 digit code is not usefull, because all other sources use 4 digit code and is the official standard. See here for a other source.

Should there be a url? I have no examples of websites that use them in a url. My purpose was to handle the parish codes in Wikidata instead of my own lists, so anyone can use it for import of other data. --Steenth (talk) 19:48, 18 September 2015 (UTC)

Steenth: Sorry if you feel harassed. My problem was that neither of the two examples you gave actually use the 4 digit code - one used the name and the other used the seven digit code. The links in your comment above are to sites but they don't show how the 4 digit code can be used with those sites. Just give me one example of how this 4 digit code can be used by "anyone to import other data" and I will support it. Joe Filceolaire (talk) 11:33, 19 September 2015 (UTC)

I made this file as a test population (P1082) for all parishes on 1 January 2015. --Steenth (talk) 17:57, 19 September 2015 (UTC)

Support An id is always a easier way to identify two items, since names are often not unique and can change by time. -- Innocent bystander (talk) 15:11, 22 September 2015 (UTC)

Support --Pasleim (talk) 19:57, 4 October 2015 (UTC)

Support --Palnatoke (talk) 17:49, 7 October 2015 (UTC)

Support Finn Årup Nielsen (fnielsen) (talk) 17:49, 7 October 2015 (UTC)

Support as proposed. Josh Baumgartner (talk) 16:55, 23 October 2015 (UTC)

Done --Tobias1984 (talk) 14:28, 8 November 2015 (UTC)

Spotify album ID

Done: Spotify album ID (P2205) (Talk and documentation)

Description	identifier for an album on Spotify
Data type	String
Domain	album (Q482994)
Example	Koska sä eroot (Q20251972) → 16BW7Z0h309liAUqhHlAg4
Source	https://developer.spotify.com/web-api/user-guide/#spotify-uris-and-ids
Formatter URL	https://play.spotify.com/album/$1

Motivation

Spotify artist ID (P1902) already exists. ★ → A ir on 90 17:32, 16 August 2015 (UTC)

Discussion

Support - Mbch331 (talk) 12:02, 22 August 2015 (UTC)
Support - Sweet kate (talk) 20:50, 30 October 2015 (UTC)

Discogs release ID

Done: Discogs release ID (P2206) (Talk and documentation)

Description	identifier for a musical work (release) in the Discogs database
Data type	String
Allowed values	numbers
Example	247 365 (Q20826658) → 7067165
Format and edit filter validation	conflicts with Discogs master ID (P1954), single value
Formatter URL	http://www.discogs.com/release/$1

Motivation

Discogs master ID (P1954) already exists and sometimes there isn't a master entry in the Discogs database.

Discussion

Support - Mbch331 (talk) 12:02, 22 August 2015 (UTC)
Support but only for when there's no master. I don't think trying to maintain a list of releases linked to a master would be sensible (a list of releases can always be fetched using the master ID, which will always be more up to date/accurate than Wikidata can be), so I'd prefer to see some mention of that in the description, and appropriate constraints (e.g. conflicts with Discogs master ID (P1954), single value). - Nikki (talk) 19:52, 29 August 2015 (UTC)

@Nikki: It's obvious that this property should be used only when a master entry is not present in Discogs database, as you can see in the example but you're right because I didn't mentioned it. I don't know where to insert it so I added this information in the filter section. Please, change it if not correct! --★ → A ir on 90 08:29, 1 September 2015 (UTC)

Spotify track ID

Done: Spotify track ID (P2207) (Talk and documentation)

Description	identifier for a track on Spotify
Data type	String
Domain	song (Q7366)
Example	Tarkenee (Q20747345) → 3G9gUGRgM4lB2ebVPUcMKI (as shown here in the description)
Source	https://developer.spotify.com/web-api/user-guide/#spotify-uris-and-ids
Formatter URL	https://play.spotify.com/track/$1

Motivation

Spotify artist ID (P1902) already exists. ★ → A ir on 90 17:32, 16 August 2015 (UTC)

Discussion

Support - Mbch331 (talk) 12:02, 22 August 2015 (UTC)
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SourceForge project

Done: SourceForge project (P2209) (Talk and documentation)

Description	Identifier for an official SourceForge repository ("project") for a software product
Represents	SourceForge (Q165400)
Data type	String
Template parameter	en:Template:SourceForge (260 transclusions)
Example	FileZilla (Q300662) → filezilla
Formatter URL	http://sourceforge.net/projects/$1/

Motivation

Well-used. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:49, 19 August 2015 (UTC)

Discussion: Don't source code repository URL (P1324) and issue tracker URL (P1401) cover most of the possible use cases? Jean-Fred (talk) 09:46, 20 August 2015 (UTC)

Support. Even if P1324 and P1401 cover most of the use cases this is still worth doing for authority control. Joe Filceolaire (talk) 15:47, 12 September 2015 (UTC)

ambitus

Done: ambitus (P2279) (Talk and documentation)

Description	Musical interval/range. Possible to apply on a song or musical instrument.
Represents	ambitus (Q745780)
Data type	Item
Template parameter	da:Skabelon:Infoboks sang
Domain	Creative work, musical instrument, singer type, singer
Allowed values	instance of interval (Q189962)
Example	Der er et yndigt land (Q165747) → ninth (Q253590)
Robot and gadget jobs	A few Danish songs have this set in an infobox.
Proposed by	39

Motivation

In the Danish Wikipedia we have an infobox for song with an ambitus field. Written music should have a fix ambitus for the melody. Finn Årup Nielsen (fnielsen) (talk) 23:17, 31 August 2015 (UTC)

Discussion

Support. Joe Filceolaire (talk) 15:49, 12 September 2015 (UTC)

short author name

Done: author name string (P2093) (Talk and documentation)

Domain	items about a scientific publication
Example	Smith J

Motivation

The WikiProject Source Metadata wants to create a large amount of items for scientific papers, initially to use as references in Wikipedia. This will have to be done (semi-)automatically; a prototype tool is available. Most of the items created will be quite richly filled with statements, however, authors are a problem. There is no way to (reliably) identify individual authors and/or create items for them automatically. The options are:

Create no authors (current mode of the prototype tool); this would prevent the items from being used as references on Wikipedia, a central aim of the project
Add only authors we know exist as Wikidata items; huge manual effort, and author list would be incomplete ⇒ #1
Auto-create items for all authors; that would lead to a lot of items to be created, all of them with only instance of (P31):human (Q5) and no other information, with many of them duplicates but no good way of detecting those

Therefore, I propose this property, where we could just add the author "Smith J" as a string statement. That would allow the use of the item as a Wikipedia reference, track all of the authors as best as we can, and allow for future "conversion" to author (P50) as we identify authors (manually or e.g. via ORCID).

I am aware this seems to contradict the "all linked up" Wikidata philosophy at first glance, but this is a special case, where we do lack the information to do it better. It is a pragmatic compromise, worth doing IMHO. --Magnus Manske (talk) 10:56, 9 September 2015 (UTC)

Discussion

Sounds like a good idea though it should theoretically only be a workaround. Will you provide a game which aims to convert these "string" authors to actual item links? Or what's the status of ORCID? Is it reasonable that we are able to map these strings to items using ORCID within the next months? -- Bene* ^t_a^l_k 12:43, 9 September 2015 (UTC)

Yes, it is a workaround. It decouples the creation of items about scientific publications and the identification/creation of author items. Apparently, there is a batch of ORCID-to-DOI links in CrossRef, which we might get at some point. Even then, we need to semi-automatically match ORCID authors to the authors in the "associated" papers. Also, ORCID currently covers only a relatively small number of authors, and will not cover old/dead authors. Some "Smith J" will remain for a long time. A game might come along in time, though the identification seems too difficult to do in a game. --Magnus Manske (talk) 13:06, 9 September 2015 (UTC)

Support sounds interesting. What would be the source(s) of import ? would identifiers (ORCID or others) be included ? would you provide lists of such items, to work upon ? this is, actually, how libraries work : create unidentified authors, and then merge them with created authorities ;)

perhaps it could be used for Wikidata:WikiProject sum of all paintings too... for now the names are put in en label, and manually searched and created afterwards... lot of hard manual work ;) --Hsarrazin (talk) 12:50, 9 September 2015 (UTC)

The plan is to (incrementally, in batches) create ~300K items for all scientific publications used in Wikipedia citations. Not my project, I just provide a tool and see this property as an integral part. The question is, do we create and resolve stings or whole items? The latter would be quite messy; 300K papers with, what, 5 authors on average, would be 1.5M author items, sparse, many of them duplicates. Not pretty. --Magnus Manske (talk) 13:07, 9 September 2015 (UTC)

Support on the basis of detailed discussion I have had with Magnus. This seems the least messy approach. If you think about it, ORCID by itself cannot solve the issue of authors who are not easy to track down as individuals: and it concerns itself only with "current" authors. So, a piecemeal approach makes sense, with disambiguation of more common name strings postponed. Charles Matthews (talk) 13:02, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
Oppose let the bot parse the string and store those "only-short-name-is-known" authors as elements. Technical tools problems shall not be the reason for bad design. Also proposed property is not consistent with different international standards. I.e. in some countries author shall be specified as "J. Smith", in some as "Smith J.", in some as "Jonh D. Smith". -- Vlsergey (talk) 13:43, 10 September 2015 (UTC)

What do you mean by "elements"? Items, perhaps? And this property is not requested because of a "technical tool problem"; a tool can happily create millions of sparse, duplicate, never-to-be-resolved items; but I'd rather avoid that. I requested the property so we don't have to clean up after that, but still can convert the strings to real items over time. And yes, the strings would not be consistent with "international standards", because such a thing does not exists across scientific journals. There could be some minor "fixing" on import, e.g. "J Smith" => "Smith J", but we can also do that after the fact with bots. A list of all strings used will be easy enough to retrieve. --Magnus Manske (talk) 15:37, 10 September 2015 (UTC)

Comment The problem is that there are many other situations that need us to input names without really needing an item about the person. To build the result table of a marathon, for instance, do we really need an item on each and single runner? So before this property is created, we should really think about possible extensions or limitations that may happen to its use. Thierry Caro (talk) 17:45, 10 September 2015 (UTC)

In a comment above, Wikidata:WikiProject sum of all paintings has also entertained this idea. I think applications outside the initial scope would be OK, but we should keep the number of such areas as low as possible. The aim here is not to prevent a lot of items from being created; rather, it is to prevent the creation of many extremely sparse items, with little chance of merging or improving them in the near future. Yet a full list of authors is required for the downstream functionality (citations). Do we want a full list of marathon participants in a item? Maybe (though I'd imagine it could be a lot). Is that stamp collecting for it's own sake (nothing wrong with that), or do we want to be a primary repository for that data? We definitely want the painters for the "sum of all paintings", but this is at least an order of magnitude less data than the scientific publications authors, and I guess (!) many of the painters already have an item. So yes, it could be used for both; maybe we should see how it goes with the publications, and then have an RfC on expanding the scope? --Magnus Manske (talk) 09:02, 11 September 2015 (UTC)

Support. We already made the decision (See Help:References) that every document referenced by wikipedia or other wmf wikis should have an item on wikidata and that we should have items for the authors and publishers of these documents. As that has been decided this tool will be a useful step towards implementing that decision.

One thing I would ask for is a notable work (P800) or described at URL (P973) statement or something to help editors find the right "Smith J". Joe Filceolaire (talk) 16:03, 12 September 2015 (UTC)

The publication item containing the author will have at least PubMed and/or DOI to link back to the source of the information. There could also be an (automatically updated) "used in Wikipedia article" property, but that can be computed at any time. --Magnus Manske (talk) 20:47, 16 September 2015 (UTC)

Support I agree with Charles Matthews that this proposed approach is the "least messy" one if we want to have bibliographic metadata here in a way that is useful to display in citations across wikis. --Daniel Mietchen (talk) 00:17, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
The Source MetaData WikiProject does not exist. Please correct the name. --Daniel Mietchen (talk) 00:18, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
Support I work a lot with old art catalogs and auction records, and "HdG" is a short author example that is not an abbreviation or part of a name, but simply a shorthand. It would be nice to be able to add this to the item for Hofstede de Groot. --Jane023 (talk) 06:42, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
Support This property could also be used as a qualifier for more "regular" references: AFAIK we don't yet have a property for "Name as presented on the item" (inscription (P1684) comes close, but makes sense only for some works of art and usually is not restricted to the creator's name). -- Gymel (talk) 17:12, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
Comment I just tried to create my own article (Right Temporoparietal Cortex Activation during Visuo-proprioceptive Conflict (Q20973139) and Modeling of activation data in the BrainMap database: Detection of outliers (Q20978712)) with Magnus' excellent sourcemd tool. I wonder how (possible) short names should merged with long names, e.g., for Right Temporoparietal Cortex Activation during Visuo-proprioceptive Conflict (Q20973139) one author is in Wikidata while the rest of us on the author list is not (yet). Even now I do not know how to edit the order of the values. One should think that a short name property should by default be deprecated and the information should eventually be moved to author (P50). Would gradual editing of short names and author (P50) after mass insertion be difficult? What about notability for values associated with author (P50)? Is the Wikidata community willing to have scientific authors, such as me that do not "feel" notable, as items in Wikidata? (Should I expect the two articles to be deleted?) — Finn Årup Nielsen (fnielsen) (talk) 15:52, 17 September 2015 (UTC)
- My approach would be to add series ordinal (P1545) qualifiers to both the "item authors" and "string authors". That would allow e.g. the {{Cite}} Lua code to reconstruct the correct order for the citation. The qualifiers would have to be moved whenever a "string author" gets replaced with an item. --Magnus Manske (talk) 12:20, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
  - So the ordering of the values has no semantic interpretation now? I suppose then one would have to use something like series ordinal (P1545). — Finn Årup Nielsen (fnielsen) (talk) 13:09, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
    - It does, but for many paper items we will have "hybrid" authors, some with items, some with this short name property. They all have an order within their respective property, but that breaks the order if they are to be displayed arbitrarily mixed. --Magnus Manske (talk) 21:18, 19 September 2015 (UTC)
Comment If short names are adapted it may be an idea to have another property for authors that indicate author name variations, so that short names can be matched with items. In by "Brede Wiki" have such a field, see, e.g., Paul T. Costa, Jr. where I presently record "variation1 = P. T. Costa Jr. | variation2 = P. T. Jr Costa | variation3 = Paul T. Jr Costa | variation4 = Paul T. Costa". My favorite example is Richard S. J. Frackowiak (Q20028848) that I found in 12 different spelled and misspelled versions among the citations in NeuroImage (Q1981225).
- Well, why not use this same property? In the context of a instance of (P31):human (Q5) item, it could list these names. Or they could be aliases? --Magnus Manske (talk) 12:20, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
  - Yes, come to think of it naming variations could just be specified with aliases. — Finn Årup Nielsen (fnielsen) (talk) 13:09, 18 September 2015 (UTC)

@Magnus Manske, Hsarrazin, Charles Matthews, Daniel Mietchen, Fnielsen: The Source MetaData WikiProject does not exist. Please correct the name. Done author name string (P2093) Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:14, 22 September 2015 (UTC)

Charted in

Done: charted in (P2291) (Talk and documentation)

Description	Chart where the element reached a position
Data type	Item
Template parameter	Template:singlechart in English Wikipedia
Domain	albums, songs, DVDs
Example	Kuussa tuulee (Q20872523) → Official Finnish Singles Charts (Q20962061), Suomen virallinen lista - Latauslista (Q20962062), Suomen virallinen lista - Radiosoittolista (Q20962071)
Source	external reference (such as IFPI, ...)
Robot and gadget jobs	A bot can import values from English Wikipedia

Motivation

Useful property to define an element. ★ → A ir on 90 16:42, 9 September 2015 (UTC)

Discussion

I would rather create a property to link the chart (listed in or something like that) and add the position using series ordinal (P1545). Mbch331 (talk) 16:55, 9 September 2015 (UTC)

You're so right! I change the proposal. --★ → A ir on 90 17:44, 9 September 2015 (UTC)

Support. Joe Filceolaire (talk) 11:55, 19 September 2015 (UTC)

Bildindex

Done: Bildindex der Kunst und Architektur ID (P2092) (Talk and documentation)

Domain	work of art (Q838948)
Allowed values	String
Format and edit filter validation	(sample: 7 digit number can be validated with edit filter Special:AbuseFilter/17)
Source	https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bildindex_der_Kunst_und_Architektur
Robot and gadget jobs	Should or are bots or gadgets doing any task with this? (Checking other properties for consistency, collecting data, etc.)

Motivation

This would be a good source of authority control for artworks in German institutions. Jane023 (talk) 10:18, 13 September 2015 (UTC)

Discussion

Support Regards, Christoph Braun (talk) 09:04, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
Support. Joe Filceolaire (talk) 23:24, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
Support. Magnus Manske (talk) 20:48, 16 September 2015 (UTC)
Support.--Oursana (talk) 13:31, 18 September 2015 (UTC)

@Jane023, Christoph Braun, Filceolaire, Magnus Manske, Oursana: Done Bildindex der Kunst und Architektur ID (P2092). Please provide more meaningful descriptions, in various languages. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:03, 22 September 2015 (UTC)

Kunstindex Danmark artwork

Done: Kunstindeks Danmark artwork ID (P2108) (Talk and documentation)

Description	Identifier for an artwork in the Kunstindex Danmark database
Data type	String
Template parameter	None yet AFAIK
Domain	artworks, items that is a instance of (P31) work of art (Q838948) or subclasses
Allowed values	\d+
Example	Sitting Nubian (Q20973150) → 600760 [5]
Format and edit filter validation	\d+ (perhaps even more restrictive \d{5,6})
Source	https://www.kulturarv.dk/kid
Formatter URL	https://www.kulturarv.dk/kid/VisVaerk.do?vaerkId=$1
Robot and gadget jobs	Some data can be setup by linking collection (P195) and inventory number (P217) with scraped information from KID.

Motivation

Kunstindex Danmark (KID) is the primary Danish index for artists and artworks. There is already Kunstindeks Danmark Artist ID (P1138) but this identifier only works for artists, and presently the report generate errors Wikidata:Database_reports/Constraint_violations/P1138#.22Type_menneske_.28Q5.29.22_violations when used for artworks. It is unclear to me whether KID regard artist ID and artworks ID as separate. However, works are resolved with https://www.kulturarv.dk/kid/VisVaerk.do?vaerkId=$1 while artists with https://www.kulturarv.dk/kid/VisKunstner.do?kunstnerId=$1. It seems most straightforward to have two identifiers for KID. Finn Årup Nielsen (fnielsen) (talk) 00:21, 16 September 2015 (UTC)

Discussion

Support. Joe Filceolaire (talk) 12:00, 19 September 2015 (UTC)
Support --Villy Fink Isaksen (talk) 06:04, 20 September 2015 (UTC)
Support --Steenth (talk) 17:53, 20 September 2015 (UTC)
Support Good catch. That database is huge. Maybe someone from Denmark can get in touch with them :-) Multichill (talk) 11:14, 26 September 2015 (UTC)

art identifier for artworks from Catalogo for the Florentine museums

Done: Florentine musea catalogue ID (P2242) (Talk and documentation)

Description	identifier for artworks from the catalogo of the Florentine musea
Data type	String
Domain	Artworks
Allowed values	number
Example	Portrait of Cosimo the Elder (Q3937502) => 00099590
Source	http://www.polomuseale.firenze.it/catalogo/; http://www.polomuseale.firenze.it/catalogo/avanzata.asp e.g. search autore : Pontormo or soggetto: Ritratto di Cosimo il Vecchio
Formatter URL	http://www.polomuseale.firenze.it/catalogo/scheda.asp?nctn=&value=1 – MISSING "$1"
Proposed by	--Oursana (talk) 13:49, 18 September 2015 (UTC)

Motivation

We have Florentine musea Inventario 1890 ID (P1726) but we also need the identificator for the catalogue, we also have on commons c:Template:Polo Museale Fiorentino Catalogo online Oursana (talk) 13:49, 18 September 2015 (UTC)

Discussion

iTunes ID

Done: Apple Music album ID (U.S. version) (P2281) (Talk and documentation)

Description	identifier for a musical work in the iTunes website
Data type	String
Domain	musical release (Q2031291)
Allowed values	numbers
Example	22 m² (Q15176954) → 747694220
Formatter URL	https://itunes.apple.com/en/album/id$1
Robot and gadget jobs	Some data can be grabbed from MusicBrainz

Motivation

iTunes Store (Q9593) is one of the biggest music website. ★ → A ir on 90 10:45, 11 October 2015 (UTC)

Discussion

Support - I filled in the allowed values section of the template (as the id currently can only have numbers) Mbch331 (talk) 12:40, 11 October 2015 (UTC)

Groeningemuseum work PID

Done: Groeningemuseum work PID (P2282) (Talk and documentation)

Description	Persistent identifier for an artwork from the collection of the Groeningemuseum (Q1948674) in Bruges, Belgium
Data type	String
Domain	work (Q386724) and its subclasses
Allowed values	combination of numbers, letters, _ (example: 0000_GRO0191_I)
Example	Shipwreck (Q20020184) → 0000_GRO0191_I
Source	will be mass imported / added in November 2015 in the context of the project Flemish art collections, Wikidata and Linked Open Data
Formatter URL	http://groeningemuseum.be/collection/work/id/$1
Robot and gadget jobs	will be mass imported / added in November 2015 in the context of the project Flemish art collections, Wikidata and Linked Open Data

Motivation

Unique and persistent identifiers for these artworks. Corresponding URLs provide persistent links to 1) the description page of the artwork and 2) its image, if available. Several thousands will be mass imported / added to Wikidata in November 2015 in the context of the project Flemish art collections, Wikidata and Linked Open Data -- Spinster (talk) 11:52, 19 October 2015 (UTC)

Discussion

consumption rate

Done: consumption rate (P2292) (Talk and documentation)

Description	rate at which a product is consumed
Represents	consumption (Q192270)
Data type	Number (not available yet)
Template parameter	put Wikipedia infobox parameters here, if existing; ex: "population" in en:template:infobox settlement
Domain	product (Q2424752)
Allowed values	nonnegative numbers
Example	⟨ petroleum (Q22656)    ⟩ consumption rate Search ⟨  85600000 barrels per day (Q21178489) ⟩ point in time (P585) ⟨  2007 ⟩
Proposed by	CCD (talk)

Discussion: Support. For consumable commodities, it would be useful to be able to record the consumption of that commodity. CCD (talk) 17:28, 5 September 2014 (UTC)

On hold Pending units data type (cannot be a bare number; is "200 wheat" tonnes, bushes or grains?). Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 09:00, 23 March 2015 (UTC)

needs an example of an item that might use this property. You say the domain (the item that might use this property is Coca-Cola (Q2813). Did you really mean Coca-Cola (Q2813)-<'consumption:5.8megalitre'>? That looks more like production. Joe Filceolaire (talk) 20:40, 12 September 2015 (UTC)

Support @Filceolaire, CCD: Added an example to illustrate, other template updates. Josh Baumgartner (talk) 17:31, 23 October 2015 (UTC)

Hmm. How would this actually be used to express the petroleum consumption of Rwanda, for instance? Do also we need a property to express the petroleum production of Rwanda? Joe Filceolaire (talk) 03:44, 31 October 2015 (UTC)

genetic Association

Done: genetic association (P2293) (Talk and documentation)

Description	a general link between a disease and the causal genetic entity, if the detailed mechanism is unknown/unavailable
Data type	Item
Template parameter	Will be used in a new 'disease/genetic association' parameter in the GeneWiki info box.
Domain	genes and diseases
Allowed values	items with instance of (P31):gene (Q7187) and instance of (P31):disease (Q12136)
Example	schizophrenia (Q41112) → APOL2 (Q18037645) ; APOL2 (Q18037645) → schizophrenia (Q41112)
Source	the data comes from Phenocarta (http://www.chibi.ubc.ca/Gemma/neurocartaStatistics.html) and OMIM (http://omim.org)
Robot and gadget jobs	PBB disease bot will work with this property

Motivation

For many (human) diseases, there are known genetic markers which modify the risk for getting the disease. But in many cases, there is no data on the detailed genetic mechanism (e.g. in Genome-wide association studies there are only tag SNPs) or there are several genetic changes for one gene/genetic locus leading to disease. Furthermore, for many studies in predigrees, only data on linked gene/genetic marker are available. This property will allow establishing this general link and is a part of the ontology we proposed some time ago. Sebotic (talk) 20:21, 16 October 2015 (UTC)

Support Good, was wondering how SNPs might be handled. Saw the mutations properties, but SNPs aren't exactly the same as mutations. Gtsulab (talk) 20:50, 16 October 2015 (UTC)

Support Supporting because this covers a lot of what we know about the relations between genes and disease. For example, most of the very important OMIM database would be best modeled this way. --I9606 (talk)

Support This would be very useful for classifying relationships for many gene-disease pairs, and is especially applicable for data sources such as OMIM and GWAS. juleong (talk) 6:02, 17 October 2015 (UTC)

@Sebotic: Am I right, that these links are just statistical correlations?--Kopiersperre (talk) 07:53, 17 October 2015 (UTC)

@Kopiersperre: The associations made in GWAS and family studies are from different statistical tests, see Wikipedia:Genetic_association. But for other data like from the decipher database, direct genetic tests of parents and children with congenital disease/syndroms have been performed. Furthermore, in order to link a genetic mutation/variant to a disease (on a population scale), the only current way of doing that is to perform statistical analysis (GWAS). In vitro data can be supportive here, but cannot establish the link currently. Genetically modified animals (e.g. mice) could also provide clues, but they are not humans. So I think having this data in WD is very valuable. Sebotic (talk) 22:47, 17 October 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for your insight.--Kopiersperre (talk) 09:12, 18 October 2015 (UTC)

Support Needed in order to be able to make links between genes and diseases. Emitraka (talk) 21:31, 20 October 2015 (UTC)

Notified participants of WikiProject Medicine

WikiProject Molecular biology has more than 50 participants and couldn't be pinged. Please post on the WikiProject's talk page instead. As there has not been any opposing voice nor contribution to discussion for more than two weeks, would it be possible to approve this property? Sebotic (talk) 05:58, 9 November 2015 (UTC)

Done --Tobias1984 (talk) 22:41, 10 November 2015 (UTC)

Current account balance

Done: balance of trade (P2294) (Talk and documentation)

Description	Sum of net exports (exports minus imports)
Data type	Number (not available yet)
Template parameter	"Current account balance"
Domain	Country, region and city articles for the Global Economic Map
Allowed values	number (currency)
Source	http://data.worldbank.org/indicator/BN.CAB.XOKA.CD. Infobox parameter can be calculated from Exports minus Imports.
Robot and gadget jobs	Bots should be doing this task
Proposed by	Mcnabber091 (talk) 19:22, 24 August 2013 (UTC)

Discussion

Support --Filceolaire (talk) 20:51, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
SupportMcnabber091 (talk) 00:17, 25 August 2013 (UTC)
Support Emw (talk) 03:02, 15 October 2013 (UTC)
Support Maybe 'total exports' to provide more clarity (I assumed based on the title that it would be a list of items that refer to the major imports) Macadamia1472 (talk) 05:30, 16 October 2013 (UTC)

Net profit

Done: net profit (P2295) (Talk and documentation)

Description	Private entity profit
Data type	Number (not available yet)
Template parameter	"Net profit"
Domain	Country, region and city articles for the Global Economic Map. Company articles
Format and edit filter validation	can be calculated from Revenue and Expenditure
Source	http://opencorporates.com/
Robot and gadget jobs	Bots should be doing this task
Proposed by	Mcnabber091 (talk) 19:22, 24 August 2013 (UTC)

Discussion

SupportMcnabber091 (talk) 00:17, 25 August 2013 (UTC)
Comment Probably needs to be either net profit or gross profit. A property for each? Danrok (talk) 20:07, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

Gross profit is equivalent to 'Revenue' which there's a proposal for.

No. Revenue is not in any way equivalent to gross profit. Danrok (talk) 22:31, 27 August 2013 (UTC)

Support as net profit. Danrok (talk) 22:32, 27 August 2013 (UTC)
Support Assuming only the most recent profit is displayed i.e. not 2004,2005,2006,2007,2008 and 2009. We would also need to decide on a qualifier to distinguish quarterly profit and annual profit etc.

This is precisely what the future rank feature is intended to address. To be clear: we should get all available data (yearly or even more granular), and set the most recent data as 'preferred'.

Support Emw (talk) 03:02, 15 October 2013 (UTC)

Money supply

Done: money supply (P2296) (Talk and documentation)

Description	The amount of currency the central bank has injected in the economy (MO, M1, M2, M3)
Data type	Number (not available yet)
Template parameter	"Money supply"
Domain	Country, region and city articles for the Global Economic Map
Allowed values	number with 'currency' dimension
Example	Use instance of (P31) as a qualifier to give the type of money supply (M0, M1, M2, M3)
Source	http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/categories/24
Robot and gadget jobs	Bots should be doing this task
Proposed by	Mcnabber091 (talk) 19:22, 24 August 2013 (UTC)

Discussion

Support --Filceolaire (talk) 20:51, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
SupportMcnabber091 (talk) 00:17, 25 August 2013 (UTC)
Support Emw (talk) 03:02, 15 October 2013 (UTC)

Employment by economic sector

Done: employment by economic sector (P2297) (Talk and documentation)

Description	Employment divided by sector
Data type	Number (not available yet)
Template parameter	"Employment by economic sector"
Domain	Country, region and city articles for the Global Economic Map
Example	In Ethiopia there are 2.3 million people that work in the manufacturing industry in 2003
Source	http://www.ilo.org/ilostat/faces/home/statisticaldata/bulk-download;jsessionid=rY_5ZcCAyHJSly6VRPFHIRlWctu3oayj9xwz0524PJkLGgHtE904!217143582?_adf.ctrl-state=m5gdffokm_185&clean=true&_afrLoop=33952754641306 https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/
Robot and gadget jobs	Bots should be doing this task
Proposed by	Mcnabber091 (talk) 18:51, 24 August 2013 (UTC)

Discussion

Support--Filceolaire (talk) 20:51, 24 August 2013 (UTC)

Comment The name for this property should be changed back to "Employment". Use the "Economic Sector" property as a qualifier to give the Employment breakdown by sector. Filceolaire (talk) 21:09, 30 August 2013 (UTC)

SupportMcnabber091 (talk) 00:17, 25 August 2013 (UTC)
Support Danrok (talk) 19:53, 26 August 2013 (UTC)
Support Emw (talk) 03:09, 15 October 2013 (UTC)
Support but Comment the CIA World Factbook source given uses percentages, the UN source reports GDP (as far as I can tell) which is VERY different and the bea.gov sit is down due to the shutdown. Therefore is this property going to use a percent like the CIA source or an actual number like I assume the other sources would use if I could access them. (it is possible to convert percentages to actual numbers and vice versa so we do not need to worry what the sources use) Macadamia1472 (talk) 05:24, 16 October 2013 (UTC)

@Macadamia1472: @Filceolaire: I think we can have multiple sources for the same statistics to show various data providers. I just added the International Labor Organization which has the most complete data for countries. Please see the 'Employment' section on this website to see an example. Mcnabber091 (talk) 01:57, 12 November 2015 (UTC)

PPP GDP per capita

Done: PPP GDP per capita (P2299) (Talk and documentation)

Description	GDP in a year divided by the population total and adjusted for CPI
Data type	number (currency)-invalid datatype (not in Module:i18n/datatype)
Domain	Countries, Regions, Cities
Allowed values	Positive numbers
Example	$35,678
Robot and gadget jobs	Global Economic Map Bot can do this
Proposed by	Mcnabber091 (talk) 16:26, 7 June 2014 (UTC)

Support Mcnabber091 (talk) 16:24, 9 June 2014 (UTC)

Support --Alan ffm (talk) 09:08, 26 June 2014 (UTC)

Comment. It seems that there is still not a property GDP. Why do we need a "PPP GDP per capita" before we have a "GDP"? And why haven't we introduced the property GDP？ --Neo-Jay (talk) 06:19, 29 July 2014 (UTC)

Support --Pasleim (talk) 15:50, 27 April 2015 (UTC)

Support --Toru10 (talk) 13:39, 29 October 2015 (UTC)

minimal lethal dose

Done: minimal lethal dose (P2300) (Talk and documentation)

Description	Lowest concentration of a toxic substance in an environmental medium that kills individual organisms or test species under a defined set of conditions.
Represents	lowest published lethal dose (Q1091347)
Data type	Number (not available yet)
Template parameter	LDLo
Domain	chemicals
Allowed values	numbers with units amount per kilo usint a specific administration route in a specific animal (administration route and animal should be qualifiers)
Example	Acetone - 45,455 ppm in mice for 1 hour
Source	External references
Proposed by	Emily Temple-Wood (NIOSH) (talk) 18:48, 22 October 2015 (UTC)

Motivation

NIOSH has a ton of lethal dose data that should be included in Wikidata, especially since it's already included in the en.wp chembox. Emily Temple-Wood (NIOSH) (talk) 18:48, 22 October 2015 (UTC)

Discussion

Support Thryduulf (talk: local | en.wp | en.wikt) 14:05, 30 October 2015 (UTC)
Support Snipre (talk) 15:09, 31 October 2015 (UTC)

@Emily Temple-Wood (NIOSH): I think we should split LDLo and LCLo. These are different units and qualifiers. Snipre (talk) 11:07, 4 November 2015 (UTC)

@Snipre: Works for me. Emily Temple-Wood (NIOSH) (talk) 03:53, 5 November 2015 (UTC)

Support. Joe Filceolaire (talk) 01:00, 4 November 2015 (UTC)
@Emily Temple-Wood (NIOSH), Thryduulf, Snipre, Filceolaire: Done minimal lethal dose (P2300) Archived --Almondega (talk) 13:52, 15 November 2015 (UTC)

religious denomination

Not done

Description	Denomination that owns a temple or church administrative unit
Data type	Item
Template parameter	"Канфесія" in be:Шаблон:Храм і "Паместная царква" be:Шаблон:Праваслаўная епархія
Domain	eparchy (Q285181), temple (Q44539)
Allowed values	religious denomination (Q13414953)
Example	Minsk metropolis (Q18340606) => Belarusian Orthodox Church (Q598783) Holy Spirit Cathedral (Q2588857) => Belarusian Orthodox Church (Q598783) Sarja Church (Q3919090) => Belarusian Orthodox Church (Q598783) (Sarja Church (Q3919090) => owned by (P127): Catholic Church (Q9592))
Source	infobox
Robot and gadget jobs	Амаль ва ўсіх моўных раздзелах ёсць карткі з падобнымі параметрамі, калі што можа - пацягніце сюды
Proposed by	Чаховіч Уладзіслаў (talk)

Discussion

Support --AmaryllisGardener ^talk 01:33, 23 November 2014 (UTC)
Comment This is highlighting an issue that I've run into too. Religious hierarchy/structure is hard to classify on Wikidata right now, particularly because each religious group has its own specifics and vocabulary. We're getting into confusing territory with this proposed property, religion or worldview (P140) and religious order (P611). We'd need to clarify their purposes specifically. Best I can tell, these properties currently apply as follows:
- religion or worldview (P140) names the specific self-identified religious affiliation of a person or organization (not a place) — which would already fill the need for the domain of eparchy (Q285181).
- religious order (P611) names the religious order "which the monastery housed" (??) but should really apply to a person too — clarifying that someone is Jesuit or a Sister of Mercy or whatever
- this new one, if it is necessary, I would maybe clarify as religious affiliation instead. It would name the affiliation of structure of worship (Q1370598) (broadened from temple (Q44539)) A broader option than religious order (P611)? Am I understanding original proposal correctly? Sweet kate (talk) 17:40, 25 November 2014 (UTC)
Oppose In the sense stemming from the examples (not from the definition) this duplicates owned by (P127). The value indicated in the definition with the allowed values set to religious denomination (Q13414953) could be inferred from the owned by (P127) together with religion or worldview (P140) (or some more sophisticated inference), thous would be redundant. Apohllo (talk) 00:17, 16 January 2015 (UTC)

Minsk metropolis (Q18340606) => owned by (P127): Belarusian Orthodox Church (Q598783) ??? --Чаховіч Уладзіслаў (talk) 12:09, 16 January 2015 (UTC)

Maybe a more abstract relation would be better, something like governed by in the case of Metropolis? While I see a necessity for a religious denomination, the definition is not coherent. If a more abstract property was defined (in case of territories, not buildings), we could express facts, such as a territory owned by/governed by a particular political group (not necessarily religious organization). Still I think building owned by an organization is different from a region governed by an organization, which is also different from religious denomination. Apohllo (talk) 14:31, 16 January 2015 (UTC)

And how to deal with such cases:

Sarja Church (Q3919090) => owned by (P127): Catholic Church (Q9592)

Sarja Church (Q3919090) => religious denomination: Belarusian Orthodox Church (Q598783)?

Owner of the building is the Catholic Church, but this building is used as an Orthodox church.

Comment I don't think this duplicates owned by (P127), because this property indicates the "owner" but we have plenty of historical cases where this "owner" (and the associated religion) changed with the time as the consequence of historical events, e.g. christian churches used as mosque or the other way around, just think of Hagia Sophia (Q12506) which went through three different "owners". In this case, how do you distinguish the current one from the historical ones? owned by (P127) may be an alternative for the "current" one but for the historical, adding them as additional values for owned by (P127) doesn't sound as the best choice, considering that owned by (P127) is defined as "the legal owner of" and this legal owner can only be the current one and not the previous ones. Additionally, owned by (P127) is not so intuitive to be used as long as the cult associated to a religious building or location is concerned. It looks to me that proposing to use owned by (P127) is more a subjective and way too generic interpretation of this property. A more formal and dedicated one could be considered, specific to the cult but without any inference about "legal ownership". --L736E (talk) 15:09, 14 June 2015 (UTC)

Oppose This is not a good definition: the first time I read this proposal I understood that the catholic church is still the owner of Holy Spirit Cathedral (Q2588857)but looking at the history the catholic church lost the building and now the orthodox church is the legal owner. If this is the correct case we have to use owned by (P127) with start time and end time to specify the order of owner. Same for the different names of a building: use "official name" property with qualifier start time and end time. Snipre (talk) 20:53, 14 June 2015 (UTC)

"Owned by" is not always the same as "religious denomination". Lots of big landowners built chapels which were owned by the landowner but affiliated with whichever denomination the landowner favoured. Support. We need this property. Joe Filceolaire (talk) 14:26, 3 August 2015 (UTC)
Oppose ownership and use are two different things but each have a property:

⟨ Sarja Church (Q3919090)  

 ⟩ owned by (P127) ⟨ Catholic Church (Q9592)  

 ⟩

⟨ Sarja Church (Q3919090)  

 ⟩ operator (P137) ⟨ Belarusian Orthodox Church (Q598783)  

 ⟩

This obviates the need for a this property. Josh Baumgartner (talk) 22:23, 22 October 2015 (UTC)

@Чаховіч Уладзіслаў, Filceolaire, Snipre, L736E, Apohllo:

Not done due to lack of consensus;

Archived; Josh Baumgartner (talk) 21:18, 16 November 2015 (UTC)

call sign

Done: call sign (P2317) (Talk and documentation)

Description	call sign of a vechicle or broadcast station
Represents	call sign (Q353659)
Data type	String
Template parameter	e.g. "anropssignal" in w:sv:Mall:Faktaruta fartyg and w:sv:Mall:Infobox biografi
Domain	vehicles / broadcast stations / people (rare but may be relevant for famous radio amateurs)
Allowed values	any string
Example	⟨ Mercury-Redstone 3 (Q623903)    ⟩ call sign (P2317) ⟨  Freedom 7 ⟩ ⟨ Asta av Smögen (Q19896387)    ⟩ call sign (P2317) ⟨  SHJO ⟩
Source	w:sv:Lista över kulturmärkta fartyg i Sverige
Robot and gadget jobs	L_PBot 3 would populate this field for some Swedish ships

Motivation

This is one of the main identifiers for e.g. listed ships in Sweden (w:sv:Lista över kulturmärkta fartyg i Sverige) which is why I see the need for this. In addition it's used for space missions, radio stations etc.

Note that callsign of airline (P432) is more narrow than this property but would partially overlap. /André Costa (WMSE) (talk) 09:42, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

Discussion

I'd be equally happy with having the scope of callsign of airline (P432) extended but a similar discussion in 2013 (see talk page, space call sign) seems to have been inconclusive or at the least not lead to an actual change. /André Costa (WMSE) (talk) 09:51, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

Support Joe Filceolaire (talk) 00:22, 21 August 2015 (UTC)
Oppose new property but Support to extend the scope of callsign of airline (P432) --Pasleim (talk) 09:08, 28 August 2015 (UTC)
- ~~per Pasleim (talk • contribs • logs) I support extending callsign of airline (P432), there is no reason I know of to limit it to airlines.~~ Josh Baumgartner (talk) 00:47, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
Is there an easy way to handle all of the labels/descriptions in various languages which may still say the property is airline specific? /André Costa (WMSE) (talk) 13:07, 23 October 2015 (UTC)
Support Ideally we could simply broaden callsign of airline (P432), but maybe given its usage, it is better to create the broader property now, and in the future, callsign of airline (P432) can be merged into it, or remain its own thing depending on how users see fit over time. Josh Baumgartner (talk) 22:31, 6 November 2015 (UTC)
Sorted to organization from unsorted. Josh Baumgartner (talk) 22:33, 6 November 2015 (UTC)
Done; Archived Josh Baumgartner (talk) 21:37, 16 November 2015 (UTC)

debut countries

Done: debut participant (P2318) (Talk and documentation)

Description	countries which debuted in the event
Data type	Item
Template parameter	"debiut #" in pl:Szablon:Eurowizja konkurs infobox 2
Domain	beauty contest (Q2658935), music competition (Q1955280)
Allowed values	Q template
Example	Eurovision Song Contest 2006 (Q10152) => Azerbaijan (Q227)
Source	eurovision.tv and other official site
Proposed by	Miloszk22 (talk)

Discussion

It is very necessary to build automatic Wikipedia infobox Miloszk22 (talk) 22:17, 21 December 2014 (UTC)

Miloszk22 What's about location (P276) ? Snipre (talk) 13:24, 13 March 2015 (UTC)

The Eurovision infobox allows for each participant to have in symbol attached indicating if it is 'debut' or 'return'; if they got 'nul points' or disqualified etc. other infoboxes have a similar requirements to (for example) indicate that a goal in a football match was an 'own goal' or that a player got a red card or a yellow card or a timeout. In wikivoyage there are similar symbols which can be attached to an item to indicate it has a car park or a public toilet or disabled access etc. Is there a more general property we could have which can be used as a qualifier for these? Filceolaire (talk) 19:44, 19 March 2015 (UTC)

Oppose Using series ordinal (P1545) or perhaps a more specific qualifier ('appearance number' or some such) with a value of '1' could indicate a debut, or '5' for a fifth appearance, etc. Josh Baumgartner (talk) 21:50, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

I still think the ordinal is useful since it offers info beyond the first appearance, but it is more complicated so I would support the simpler property for cases where that level of detail is not available. Josh Baumgartner (talk) 15:57, 23 October 2015 (UTC)

Support, c'est indispensable à l’internationalisation qui est primordiale pour rendre les articles accessibles au plus grand nombres, dans un maximum de langues. A.BourgeoisP (talk) 15:47, 20 May 2015 (UTC)

Comment If participant (P710) is used on all editions of the event, the debut participant can be deduced programmaticly. --Pasleim (talk) 21:42, 20 May 2015 (UTC)

Support as "debut participant", since it isn't only countries that make their debut in an event, and it is just as useful for countries, teams, and individuals. Josh Baumgartner (talk) 15:57, 23 October 2015 (UTC)
Done; Archived Josh Baumgartner (talk) 22:35, 16 November 2015 (UTC)

type of electors

Done: elector (P2319) (Talk and documentation)

Description	the type of humans that is allowed / votes in the election
Represents	voter (Q2540351)
Data type	Item
Domain	type of elections (and elections ? cf. discussion on the proposition above)
Allowed values	subclasses of human (Q5) ; electoral college (Q1141323)
Example	⟨ French senate elections (Q3587541)    ⟩ `Wikidata property` ⟨ Q3115299 ⟩
Robot and gadget jobs	Devrait-il y avoir ou existe-t-il des bots ou des gadgets qui effectueront des tâches avec cette propriété? Par exemple: vérifier les autres propriétés afin d'être cohérent, collecter des données, automatiser un lien externe, etc.

Motivation: This is an intrinsic property of some kind of election. Useful to define unambiguously an item with statements for an election. author TomT0m / talk page 12:02, 14 October 2015 (UTC)

Discussion

Support. Joe Filceolaire (talk) 20:34, 25 October 2015 (UTC)
Support as it is indeed a key property for elections, though the label in English should be less ambiguous ('qualified electors'). Josh Baumgartner (talk) 18:55, 28 October 2015 (UTC)
Done; Archived; Josh Baumgartner (talk) 22:58, 16 November 2015 (UTC)

number of aftershocks

Done: aftershocks (P2320) (Talk and documentation)

Description	number of aftershocks of an earthquake
Represents	aftershock (Q308442)
Data type	Number (not available yet)
Template parameter	"aftershocks" in en:template:infobox earthquake
Domain	earthquake
Allowed values	numbers
Example	April 2015 Nepal earthquake (Q19830062) → 329
Source	Wikipedia infoboxes

Motivation

Useful for earthquake info. AmaryllisGardener ^talk 15:39, 12 August 2015 (UTC)

Discussion

Comment You could use significant event (P793) = aftershock (Q308442) with qualifier quantity (P1114). Swpb (talk) 18:19, 25 September 2015 (UTC)

Support as proposed. This is specific enough it warrants its own property. significant event (P793) is useful, especially as a fall-back, but it is rather muddled as well so I have no problem with this property being created on its own. Josh Baumgartner (talk) 19:53, 28 October 2015 (UTC)
Done; Archived; Josh Baumgartner (talk) 00:00, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

Swedish Olympic Committee athlete ID

Done: Swedish Olympic Committee athlete ID (P2323) (Talk and documentation)

Description	The unique part of the link to the bibliographic database of the Swedish Olympic Committee
Data type	String
Domain	Person
Allowed values	(first letter of given name)/(given name)-(family name)
Example	Anna Lindberg (Q459122) → a/anna-lindberg
Formatter URL	http://sok.se/idrottare/idrottare/$1.html

Motivation

The Swedish Olympic Commitee has gathered 3658 profiles of all Swedish Olympians, providing information about date of birth (P569) place of birth (P19) date of death (P570) place of death (P20) participant in (P1344), combined with pictures and short biographies.

Discussion

Support, but can we label it something a little easier to get my head around ('Swedish Olympic Committee athlete identifier'?) Josh Baumgartner (talk) 16:43, 28 October 2015 (UTC)
Support and went ahead and changed the name. Sweet kate (talk) 21:27, 30 October 2015 (UTC)

@Joshbaumgartner, Sweet kate: Done: Swedish Olympic Committee athlete ID (P2323). Jonathan Groß (talk) 12:53, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

general classification

Done: general classification of race participants (P2321) (Talk and documentation)

Description	general results and ranking of a cycling race
Data type	Item
Template parameter	Cette propriété servirait à générer des tableaux directement dans le corps de l'article de Wikipedia concerné.
Domain	sport cyclist (Q2309784)
Allowed values	Arnaud Démare (Q552724) for exemple
Example	2015 Grand Prix de Denain (Q19249082) avec / with http://www.procyclingstats.com/race/GP_de_Denain_Porte_du_Hainaut_2015 general classification => Nacer Bouhanni (Q922989) (qualifiers ranking (P1352) => 1, duration => 4:29:25) Boris Vallée (Q15069728) (qualifiers ranking (P1352) => 2, écart / gap => same time) Rudy Barbier (Q15973499) (qualifiers ranking (P1352) => 3, écart / gap => same time) ... Jonas Ahlstrand (Q1284441) (qualifiers ranking (P1352) => 124, écart / gap => same time)
Source	http://www.procyclingstats.com/race/Silver_City_s_Tour_of_the_Gila_2015_Stage_2_General_Classification for exemple
Robot and gadget jobs	yes

Motivation

[Google Translate] (edited by TomT0m) Hello everyone. I work mostly on Wikimedia Commons cycling races, in Nord-Pas-de-Calais and Belgium, to illustrate the relevant articles. This project is funded by a local chapter. So we're interested in articles and topics that exists in different languages to spread up our work. Currently, there is ten languages version of the articles on some races like Paris–Roubaix (Q33992)   , but each user must himself fill in the overall results on his language, and is generally limited to the tenth or 20th first riders. This is quite long and tedious to do. So I work now on the centralization of the results on Wikidata, and this is an important point. Our goal is to put the riders ranks on Wikidata on some place, so that eventually the data can automatically be reused in Wikipedias when they will be ready. Riders' ranks table now also uses the nationality of the rider his team, and the information should be stored on Wikidata as it will be used in many races. Such a system would already be useable with a few thousand items, and would allow any foreign speaker to quickly create the articles. The other benefit is that the work on data would be performed by a user of any language, which would realease time for the others to write up their own articles on different area. Question about the general ranking of a races: Sometimes there are stage races where a property classification at the stage would help, but I prefer to wait until the general ranking case is solved before launching the other proposals. There is also team rankings as a similar case. This property is close to ranking (P1352) except that it would rank the elements of a competition and not racer. I am available for any questions, if possible in French, but I can translate English . Jérémy-Günther-Heinz Jähnick (talk) 10:32, 1 May 2015 (UTC) }}

Discussion: Jérémy-Günther-Heinz Jähnick the examples you list seem to indicate that you intend to use this property to list the participants in a race with qualifiers giving the other parameters in the table related to that race and that participant. We already have "participant (P710)" to do that job so I don't think you need to create this new property. See what I have added to 2015 Grand Prix de Denain (Q19249082). Does that work?; I assumed the column headed "pnt" is 'points'. "UCI" looks like some other points system. That is a problem as you cannot have a qualifier on a qualifier so if you use number of points/goals/set scored (P1351) for both UCI and pnt then there is no way to distinguish one from the other. You may have to create a new property for one of these. Hope this helps. Filceolaire (talk) 19:05, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

"general classification" doesn't seem right. I think Filceolaire probably said what needed to be said. (And would be misused in any sort of number of ways.) --Izno (talk) 21:40, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

@Filceolaire, Izno: : Au début, je pensais comme vous deux, avec l'utilisation de la propriété participants, et puis j'ai réfléchi, et j'ai compris que participants serait plutôt utile pour lister les équipes. Classement général est utile parce que classement d'étape l'est tout autant, et dans le cyclisme, nous avons énormément de courses à étapes, qui nécessitent de faire la distinction entre le classement de l'étape et le classement général, ce dernier étant actualisé après chaque étape. L'exemple que j'ai donné n'est pas le bon, Triptyque des Monts et Châteaux 2015 conviendrait mieux. Il y a nécessité de séparer le classement d'étape et le classement général, mais aussi de pouvoir faire un classement du meilleur jeune, un classement par équipes (plus rapide à faire)... Et donc je lance cette réflexion parce que je souhaite que tous les cas particuliers soient réglés. Même si je prévois de créer un élément par étape, on aura toujours un classement d'étape et un classement général, ces derniers devront être remplis séparément, car dans les deux cas je souhaite associer au coureur sa place, mais aussi et surtout le temps qu'il a réalisé ou son écart avec le vainqueur (voir les articles francophones). L'objectif est bien entendu à terme de pouvoir centraliser sur Wikidata tous les classements, pour faciliter la création d'articles dans les petites Wikipedia. Vous avez ici quelques exemples de classements que nous pourrons écrire sur Wikidata.

[Google Translate] : At first, I thought like you two, with the use of the participants property, and then I thought, and I realized that participants would be more useful to list the teams. Overall ranking is useful because the classification stage is equally, and in cycling, we have a lot of stage races, which require to distinguish between the classification of the stage and the overall classification, the latter being updated after each step. The example I gave is not good, Triptyque Monts et Châteaux 2015 would be more appropriate. There is need to separate the classification stage and the overall classification, but also able to make a young rider classification, a classification by teams (faster to make) ... So I start thinking this because I want all special cases are resolved. Although I plan to create an item-by-step, there will always be a step standings and overall standings, they will need to be filled separately, because in both cases the rider I wish to associate its place, but above time he realized his or behind the winner (see Francophone articles). The goal is of course to be able to run on Wikidata centralize all the rankings, to facilitate the creation of products in small Wikipedia. Here you have an example of differents types of classifications that we will write on Wikidata. Jérémy-Günther-Heinz Jähnick (talk) 19:28, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

Jérémy-Günther-Heinz Jähnick, Izno participant (P710) is meant for the individuals. Each can have a 'member of sports team (P54)' qualifier to denote what team they are on. You can also use 'participant (P710)' to list the teams but thinking about it there is probably a good case for creating a new property for 'participating team'. That would be useful for football matches and other team sports and Olympic events too.

You will probably need to create separate items for each 'étape' if you want to record the results for these. Use 'part of (P361)' and 'has part(s) (P527)' to link between the race and the various étape.

[Google translate] participant (P710) est destiné aux individus . Chacun peut avoir une 'member of sports team (P54)' qualificatif pour désigner quelle équipe ils sont. Vous pouvez également utiliser «participant (P710)» à la liste des équipes, mais y penser il y a probablement une bonne affaire pour la création d'une nouvelle propriété pour 'équipe participante' . Ce serait utile pour les matchs de football et d'autres sports d'équipe et les épreuves olympiques aussi.

Vous avez probablement besoin de créer des 'item' séparés pour chaque «étape» si vous souhaitez enregistrer les résultats de ceux-ci . Utilisez 'part of (P361)' et 'has part(s) (P527) ' pour relier entre la course et les différentes étape .

Hope this helps. Filceolaire (talk) 21:21, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

@Filceolaire: : il est effectivement prévu que je créé un élément par étape, comme c'est déjà le cas pour le Tour de France. Participating teams est également une bonne idée pour remplacer le tableau des équipes participantes. Mais il reste que chaque étape, comme ici la 1re étape du Tour de France 2014, est dotée d'un classement de l'étape, d'un classement général, d'un classement par points, d'un classement du meilleur grimpeur, d'un classement du meilleur jeune et d'un classement par équipes. Comme visible sur Catégorie:Étape du Tour de France 2014, ces nouvelles propriétés sont nécessaires pour chacune des étapes. participant (P710) devrait quant à lui être utile pour générer les listes des partants, accompagné de member of sports team (P54) et du numéro de dossart.

[Google Translate] It is actually expected that I created an item-by-step, as is already the case for the Tour de France. Participating teams is also a good idea to replace the table of participating teams. But the fact remains that each step , as here the 1re étape du Tour de France 2014, has a classification of the stage, a general classification, a points classification, a ranking of best climber, a young rider classification and a team classification. As shown in Catégorie:Étape du Tour de France 2014, these new properties are required for each step. participant (P710) is projected to be useful to generate lists of runners , accompanied by member of sports team (P54) and dossart number. Jérémy-Günther-Heinz Jähnick (talk) 08:22, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

Support (utile). A.BourgeoisP (talk) 13:29, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
Support. Josh Baumgartner (talk) 16:36, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
Oppose. Use 'participant in (P1344)' or "participating team" (new property needed - I'll do a proposal) instead. Filceolaire (talk) 23:25, 23 May 2015 (UTC)
Support Sera utile pour toutes les courses cyclistes afin d'effectuer le classement général à l'issue de chaque étape pour les courses à étapes et à l'issue d'une course pour une course d'un jour. Une autre propriété classement d'étape devra être faite. Jérémy-Günther-Heinz Jähnick (talk) 14:06, 1 June 2015 (UTC)
Support I know Jérémy-Günther-Heinz Jähnick from FR-WP and Commons and appreciate the excellent job he performs over there on all what is regarding cycling. So I assume that the tools he asks for will further improve that job. Thib Phil (talk) 06:19, 5 June 2015 (UTC)
Support --ComputerHotline (talk) 14:03, 5 June 2015 (UTC)
Done; Archived; Josh Baumgartner (talk) 17:15, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

number of starters

Not done

Description	number of starters
Data type	Number (not available yet)
Template parameter	This property would be used to indicate the number of riders taking the start of a cycling race of one day, or a step in the case of a stage race.
Domain	sport cyclist (Q2309784)
Allowed values	50, 150, 200... for exemple
Example	2015 Grand Prix de Denain (Q19249082) => 133
Source	http://www.procyclingstats.com/race.php?id=150202
Robot and gadget jobs	yes

Motivation

Toujours dans le cadre de mon projet concernant le cyclisme, je m'intéresse aujourd'hui au nombre de partants et au nombre d'arrivants, deux paramètres de l'infobox. Sur tous les articles concernants des courses cyclistes (mais ça peut aussi concerner d'autres sports), il y a la mention du nombre de partants et d'arrivants. Dans le cadre de courses à étapes, on doit retrouver ces informations en plus dans chaque élément d'étape. En ce sens, le nombre de partants et différent du nombre de participants à un évènement.

[Google Translate] Also as part of my project for cycling, today I am interested in the number of starters and the number of arrivals, two parameters of the infobox. On all items adesione cycle races (but it can also affect other sports), there is mention of the number of runners and arrivals. In stage races framework, we must find this information and more in each step element. In this sense, the number of starters and different from the number of participants in an event. Jérémy-Günther-Heinz Jähnick (talk) 11:59, 19 May 2015 (UTC)

Discussion

Support A.BourgeoisP (talk) 15:47, 20 May 2015 (UTC)

Comment One could use

⟨ 2015 Grand Prix de Denain (Q19249082)  

 ⟩ number of participants (P1132) ⟨  133 ⟩
location (P276) ⟨ beginning (Q15053706)  

 ⟩

and

⟨ 2015 Grand Prix de Denain (Q19249082)  

 ⟩ number of participants (P1132) ⟨  124 ⟩
location (P276) ⟨ end (Q15053716)  

 ⟩

--Pasleim (talk) 21:33, 20 May 2015 (UTC)

@Pasleim: : Good idea for the nomber of starters, but I need a new property for the number of finisher, because in most races, the town of start is the town of finish. For 2015 Grand Prix de Denain (Q19249082), the start is at Denain like the finish. Jérémy-Günther-Heinz Jähnick (talk) 11:15, 21 May 2015 (UTC) I also found minimum number of players (P1872) and maximum number of players (P1873), but it seems a little different that I search. Jérémy-Günther-Heinz Jähnick (talk) 11:57, 21 May 2015 (UTC)

I updated my example. Instead of using the city name, use beginning (Q15053706) and end (Q15053716) --Pasleim (talk) 12:01, 21 May 2015 (UTC)

Thanks @Pasleim:. I do a try on 2015 Grand Prix de Denain (Q19249082). have you an idea on how I will can use these data on Wikipedia ? It is easy on most cases, but here I don't know. Jérémy-Günther-Heinz Jähnick (talk) 12:34, 21 May 2015 (UTC)

On the French Wikipedia, you can use {{#invoke:Wikidata|formatStatements|property=P1132|qualifier=P276|qualifiervalue=Q15053706}} and {{#invoke:Wikidata|formatStatements|property=P1132|qualifier=P276|qualifiervalue=Q15053716}}. --Pasleim (talk) 13:13, 21 May 2015 (UTC)

Perfect Pasleim ! Jérémy-Günther-Heinz Jähnick (talk) 13:35, 21 May 2015 (UTC)

Support See above Thib Phil (talk) 06:24, 5 June 2015 (UTC)
Support --ComputerHotline (talk) 14:03, 5 June 2015 (UTC)
Support as this could be used for all sorts of races, not just bicycles. Josh Baumgartner (talk) 21:47, 5 June 2015 (UTC)

Oppose as it seems by suggestion above is indeed working. --Pasleim (talk) 22:28, 6 June 2015 (UTC)

This is similar too Wikidata:Property_proposal/Unsorted#size_of_team_at_start/size_of_team_at_finish except that is for the number on each cycling team (or in a team of sled dogs or in a football team) participating in the competition and how that number changes between the start and finish. Joe Filceolaire (talk) 22:44, 23 August 2015 (UTC)

Oppose Per Pasleim, the existing system seems to be working, so no need for this new property. Josh Baumgartner (talk) 16:05, 23 October 2015 (UTC)
@Jérémy-Günther-Heinz Jähnick, Thib Phil, ComputerHotline, Pasleim, A.BourgeoisP:

Not done as unnecessary per discussion;

Archived Josh Baumgartner (talk) 18:21, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

number of graves

Done: number of graves (P2351) (Talk and documentation)

Description	Number of known graves
Data type	Number (not available yet)
Template parameter	Template:Infobox cemetery (Q6167586)
Domain	place
Allowed values	quantity
Example	Bois-Roger National Cemetery (Q19945176) → 8157
Source	référence externe, article de liste de Wikipédia, etc.

— Ayack (talk) 11:27, 26 October 2015 (UTC)

Discussion

Oppose Use
⟨ Bois-Roger National Cemetery (Q19945176)    ⟩ has part(s) (P527) ⟨ grave (Q173387)    ⟩
quantity (P1114) ⟨  8157 ⟩
Josh Baumgartner (talk) 20:34, 28 October 2015 (UTC)
@Ayack:

Not done due to lack of support;

Archived; Josh Baumgartner (talk) 21:53, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

Well, it appears it was done on Nov 25, 2015... -- LaddΩ chat ;) 14:32, 8 January 2016 (UTC)

number of people buried

Done: quantity buried (P2324) (Talk and documentation)

Description	Number of people buried in a cemetery
Data type	Number (not available yet)
Template parameter	Template:Infobox cemetery (Q6167586)
Domain	place
Allowed values	quantity
Example	Bois-Roger National Cemetery (Q19945176) → 11233
Source	référence externe, article de liste de Wikipédia, etc.

— Ayack (talk) 11:27, 26 October 2015 (UTC)

Discussion

Oppose as proposed; Support as a broader 'quantity buried' property, as it should not be limited to people (pet cemeteries for example). Josh Baumgartner (talk) 20:39, 28 October 2015 (UTC)
Done; Archived Josh Baumgartner (talk) 21:59, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

Number spaceflight

Not done

Description	Number of space flights made by astronaut including this (qualifiers)
Data type	Number (not available yet)
Example	STS-124 (Q217550) -> Crew -> Mark Kelly -> Number spaceflight (qualifiers) -> 3 Soyuz TMA-15M (Q610681) -> Crew -> Samantha Cristoforetti -> Number spaceflight (qualifiers) -> 1
Source	Nasa web site, other
Proposed by	--Adert (talk) 12:33, 6 May 2015 (UTC)

Discussion

Can't this be calculated programmatically? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:43, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
- I think so... but I don't know how to do and who to ask.. --Adert (talk) 14:43, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
  - My point is that, if it can be calculated, we don't need a property for it. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:09, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
    - But, where we can find the source for the calculation? Probably from the astronaut's item, but this implies that any astronaut's item has list of mission complete and in correct order. Or I wrong? --Adert (talk) 16:52, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
The 2 examples currently show the proposed property used as qualifier at a space mission item. Why? Can an astronaut make several spaceflight in one space mission? What do you mean by "spaceflight"? extra-vehicular activity (Q182020)? Visite fortuitement prolongée (talk) 19:47, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
Oppose count the number of astronaut mission (P450) claims on the astronaut's item (can be done with Module:Wikidata (Q12069631)) --Pasleim (talk) 15:11, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

@Pasleim: It is not so easy. For example, for William Shepherd STS-102 and Soyuz TM-31 were both the 4th flight (STS-102 was return and Sujuz TM-31 was the launch) --Adert (talk) 22:57, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

@Pasleim: to rely on counting astronaut mission (P450) would require that all of such missions be correctly cited to get the quantity of missions. Josh Baumgartner (talk) 09:05, 20 September 2015 (UTC)

Oppose as proposed, but sympathetic to the idea. What this really boils down to is creating an ordered set, which is not something we have a lot of architecture for yet. To use the examples, essentially STS-124 (Q217550) is part of a set 'Mark Kelly spaceflights', within which it is number 3 chronologically. As stated above, if we have all of his spaceflights properly set up with dates and links, we can derive this through a query. It is not a good idea to set up qualifier properties for every type of item that can be put into an ordered set, especially since such sets are often able to be ordered in many different ways. Josh Baumgartner (talk) 17:03, 29 October 2015 (UTC)
Oppose. Don't add this info to the item for the flight. Instead we should add this info to the Mark Kelly item with a statement for each spaceflight he took part in, like we do for politicians. Use the 'significant event (P793)' property for each flight with start/end dates and info on the role played.
@Adert, Pasleim, Visite fortuitement prolongée, Pigsonthewing:

Not done due to lack of consensus;

Archived Josh Baumgartner (talk) 22:30, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

mean anomaly

Done: mean anomaly (P2325) (Talk and documentation)

Description	mean anomaly
Represents	mean anomaly (Q216715)
Data type	Number (not available yet)
Example	Earth (Q2) → 358.617 deg

Yair rand (talk) 11:21, 14 October 2015 (UTC)

Discussion: Support - Mbch331 (talk) 11:26, 14 October 2015 (UTC); stöder -- Innocent bystander (talk) 20:09, 18 October 2015 (UTC)

Done; Archived; Josh Baumgartner (talk) 22:41, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

Celestial coordinates

Not done

Description	...
Data type	String
Template parameter	« ascension droite » et « déclinaison » dans fr:Modèle:Infobox Étoile
Domain	astronomical object (Q6999)
Allowed values	ascension droite et déclinaison
Example 1	MISSING
Example 2	MISSING
Example 3	MISSING

Motivation

Afraid I don't catch which ID is to be corrected. The WD n° of Objets célestes is (Q6999), if it can help anyhow ?

Most of the (millions of) celestial objects are located thanks to fixed coordinates which are (hopefully) filled in the infobox. Kikuyu3 (talk) 18:04, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

Af

Discussion

Changed datatype to "string" (for now), from "coordonnée célestes (ascension droite et déclinaison
". Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:15, 6 August 2015 (UTC)
Oppose as string, support as number with (angular) units. --Izno (talk) 21:26, 6 August 2015 (UTC)
@Kikuyu3: Please provide an example. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:01, 7 August 2015 (UTC)
I think we need three properties for this - Right Ascension, Declination and Epoch and we need a geocentric and a heliocentric version of these or, alternatively, we use geocoordinates datatype with two new values for the sphere. Have you asked the devs to add a geocentric celestial sphere and a heliocentric celestial sphere to the geocoordinates datatype? Joe Filceolaire (talk) 17:00, 12 September 2015 (UTC)

@Filceolaire, Kikuyu3, Pigsonthewing, Izno:

Not done for lack of support;

Archived; Josh Baumgartner (talk) 22:46, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

NSDAP membership number (1925–1945)

Done: NSDAP membership number (1925–1945) (P2298) (Talk and documentation)

Description	Number in the membership list of the National Socialist German Workers' Party
Data type	String
Domain	member of political party (P102): Nazi Party (Q7320)
Allowed values	string
Example	Gerhardt Preuschen (Q1512896) → 5318725
Format and edit filter validation	1 to 8 digits number
Source	Liste von NSDAP-Parteimitgliedsnummern

Motivation

Relevant for historians. As most former NSDAP members are now dead this wouldn't infringe their personality rights anymore.--Kopiersperre (talk) 10:32, 28 October 2015 (UTC)

Discussion

Question Aren't personality rights protected even after death for a period of time? Jonathan Groß (talk) 10:57, 28 October 2015 (UTC)
Support notwithstanding. Jonathan Groß (talk) 10:57, 28 October 2015 (UTC)
Support as proposed. Use for public figures where this number is published is appropriate. Josh Baumgartner (talk) 16:49, 28 October 2015 (UTC)
Support Thryduulf (talk: local | en.wp | en.wikt) 17:56, 28 October 2015 (UTC)

@Kopiersperre, Jonathan Groß, Joshbaumgartner, Thryduulf: Done --Kolja21 (talk) 18:13, 13 November 2015 (UTC)

Archived Josh Baumgartner (talk) 22:55, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

court painter

Not done

Description	inverse of position held (P39) court painter (Q984276)
Data type	Item
Domain	Fürst (Q18244), king (Q12097), emperor (Q39018), ruler (Q1097498) in monarchy (Q7269)
Allowed values	people with occupation (P106) painter (Q1028181) and position held (P39) court painter (Q984276)
Example	Beispiel: Frederick I of Prussia (Q151826) → Augustinus Terwesten (Q2234746); Frederick III (Q77233) → Lucas Cranach the Elder (Q191748); Frederick III (Q77233) → Jacopo de' Barbari (Q927350)
Proposed by	--Oursana (talk) 22:00, 17 September 2015 (UTC)

it is also very important to see which painters where engaged by the monarchs

Discussion

Oppose. I am not in favour of creating inverse properties just for the sake of it. What we need are better tools for finding statements where an item is the value. Joe Filceolaire (talk) 04:25, 20 September 2015 (UTC)
Oppose This isn't actually a real inverse property, as
⟨ subject ⟩ position held (P39) ⟨ court painter (Q984276)    ⟩
doesn't link the subject with the particular court that employs them. However, employer (P108) can establish that link, so in combination with position held (P39), we can derive the relationship between the court and its court painters:

⟨ Augustinus Terwesten (Q2234746)  

 ⟩ position held (P39) ⟨ court painter (Q984276)  

 ⟩
employer (P108) ⟨ Frederick I of Prussia (Q151826)  

 ⟩

⟨ Augustinus Terwesten (Q2234746)  

 ⟩ employer (P108) ⟨ Frederick I of Prussia (Q151826)  

 ⟩
position held (P39) ⟨ court painter (Q984276)  

 ⟩

This would seem to fit the bill. Josh Baumgartner (talk) 22:22, 21 October 2015 (UTC)

Yes thank you. And how does the query work.--Oursana (talk) 00:14, 3 November 2015 (UTC)

Comment closed as not done, stale. --- Jura 09:29, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
@Oursana, Filceolaire, Jura1: Archived; Josh Baumgartner (talk) 01:19, 18 November 2015 (UTC)

GNS UFI

Done: GNS Unique Feature ID (P2326) (Talk and documentation)

Description	GEOnet Names Server Unique Feature Identifier
Represents	Unique Feature Identifier (Q21095738)
Data type	String
Domain	geographical feature (Q618123)
Example	Paris (Q90) -> -1456928
Source	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:GEOnet3 http://geonames.nga.mil/namesgaz/

Motivation

The NGA (fka NIMA) have generated a large catalog of geographic entities, available for download at http://geonames.nga.mil/gns/html/namefiles.html . These entries are identified via the "GNS UFI", analogous to GNIS Feature ID (P590) except that the latter is solely for entities within the US, and the former is used for entities outside the US. It seems inconsistent to support GNIS IDs but not GNS IDs.

Getting a good source for these identifiers is going to be a little tricky. Here are some ideas:

Use the transclusions of templates GEOnet, GEOnet2, and GEOnet3 on the English Wikipedia. (There appear to be some equivalent templates in other languages.)
Track down the file mentioned in http://forum.geonames.org/gforum/posts/list/887.page
Match up entities the hard way using some combination of lat/long, name and type
Use the Open Street Map tags listed on http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:GEOnet_Names_Server#Multiple_tagging_schemes

See Wikidata:Project_chat#Geocoding_NIMA.2FUSG.2FGNS_UFI for some prior discussion.

Bovlb (talk) 00:49, 13 October 2015 (UTC)

Discussion

Support --- Ahoerstemeier (talk) 08:59, 13 October 2015 (UTC)
Support as proposed. Josh Baumgartner (talk) 17:00, 23 October 2015 (UTC)
Support. Joe Filceolaire (talk) 21:13, 25 October 2015 (UTC)
Comment I'm setting this to "ready" as it has only support and no comments for several weeks. I didn't do this earlier, because I thought someone else was supposed to come along and assess consensus, but I guess I misunderstood the process. Bovlb (talk) 16:49, 16 November 2015 (UTC)
Question @Bovlb: I went to create this and I must have not noticed the first time, but this uses the 'quantity' datatype. Typically an identifier, even if it currently is limited to only numerical digits, is done as a 'string' datatype with an appropriate filter to allow verification. Do you have any problem creating this as a string property? If not, I will go ahead and create it. Thanks! Josh Baumgartner (talk) 21:50, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
- @Joshbaumgartner: I have no problem with that. This was my first property proposal and I found the guidance on picking the datatype a little confusing. Bovlb (talk) 01:15, 18 November 2015 (UTC)
- Actually I just found this link at the top of the page, which gives much clearer guidance than whatever page I ended up on. Bovlb (talk) 01:17, 18 November 2015 (UTC)
  - @Bovlb: No problem, and thanks for bringing this proposal forward. I know the documentation is a bit hit and miss, and could definitely use some attention. Josh Baumgartner (talk) 01:39, 18 November 2015 (UTC)

Done;

Archived; Josh Baumgartner (talk) 01:39, 18 November 2015 (UTC)

Price

Withdrawn

Description	The price or the value of the subject item in any currency or other accepted unit of value
Data type	Number (not available yet)
Template parameter	Wikipedia infobox parameters, if any; ex: "population" in en:template:infobox settlement
Domain	Q8142
Allowed values	number with unit for currency or other equivalent item used as a unit of value.
Example	pound sterling (Q25224) → 1.51 United States dollar (Q4917): point in time (P585):11/11/2015 pound sterling (Q25224) → 100 penny (Q680047)
Format and edit filter validation	(sample: 7 digit number can be validated with edit filter Special:AbuseFilter/17)
Source	external reference, Wikipedia list article, etc.
Robot and gadget jobs	Should or are bots or gadgets doing any task with this? (Checking other properties for consistency, collecting data, etc.)

Motivation

to show exchange rates. Joe Filceolaire (talk) 09:33, 11 November 2015 (UTC)

I can't get this to display and I don't know what I'm doing wrong. :( Can anyone help? Joe Filceolaire (talk) 09:33, 11 November 2015 (UTC)

Discussion

Comment There is already price (P2284). This seems to be different, but the title needs to reflect that. Andreasm ^{háblame / just talk to me} 18:57, 11 November 2015 (UTC)

Actually that seems to be the same so I withdraw this proposal. Joe Filceolaire (talk) 14:56, 14 November 2015 (UTC)

Archived Josh Baumgartner (talk) 21:45, 18 November 2015 (UTC)

1 Sigma

Not done

Description	A property to be used as qualifier, when the precision is described with standard deviation (Q159375) instead of +/- whatever
Represents	standard deviation (Q159375)
Data type	Number (not available yet)
Domain	as a qualifier to (almost) any number-datatype property
Example	orbital eccentricity (P1096):0.8524512679233956; `1 sigma:`0.00028691 [6]
Format and edit filter validation	the unit of this qualifier should be the same as the unit for the claim itself
Source	external reference

Motivation

We need alternatives to the present datamodel for precision. Not all sources gives you information about the precison in terms of +/-X. For those cases is this maybe a solution. Innocent bystander (talk) 18:55, 20 October 2015 (UTC)

Discussion

Notified participants of WikiProject Physics

Notified participants of WikiProject Chemistry

Notified participants of WikiProject Mathematics

What about saying "uncertainty corresponds to" (or "+- corresponds to"). It would be item-datatype and could link to 1-sigma, 2-sigma, etc. Otherwise I think many people will use +-0 for numbers and only add the uncertainty in the qualifiers. --Tobias1984 (talk) 09:28, 28 October 2015 (UTC)
What about the following changes in your example above?
orbital eccentricity (P1096): 0.8524512679233956 ± 0.00028691 (1 sigma)

orbital eccentricity (P1096): 0.8524512679233956 ± 0.00028691 (1 σ)

--Leyo 09:43, 28 October 2015 (UTC)

Oppose I would be in favor of an "uncertainty" property for qualifiers as suggested by Tobias1984 above, with various items as target (standard deviation, 2-sigma, or whatever else is commonly used). I don't think "1 sigma" makes sense as a property in itself. ArthurPSmith (talk) 13:22, 28 October 2015 (UTC)

Oppose Also, uncertainties can be one-sided, such as the half-lives of ununoctium-294 and other highly radioactive elements, in which case this does not make sense.--Jasper Deng (talk) 16:31, 2 November 2015 (UTC)

@Jasper Deng: I never proposed that this property should be used in every case, only when the numbers in the sources fits this solution. Anyhow, I have marked this as "Not done", since I agree with the objections above. -- Innocent bystander (talk) 17:34, 2 November 2015 (UTC)

Archived Josh Baumgartner (talk) 22:07, 18 November 2015 (UTC)

upper bound

Not done

Description	The highest value in a range
Data type	Number (not available yet)
Domain	as a qualifier for numeric statements
Allowed values	all numbers
Example	silica dust (Q20963647) immediately dangerous to life or health (P2129) → upper bound: 50 mg/m^3

Motivation

Sometimes for a measurement there will be a range of accepted values rather than just a single value. Being able to qualify upper and lower bounds reduces our need to create specialized properties. See also the proposal for a lower bound qualifier property. James Hare (NIOSH) (talk) 17:06, 5 October 2015 (UTC)

Discussion

Comment The sample should be in the format <item> <property> <value> <proposed qualifier> <value>. Can you amend it? --- Jura 17:22, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
Oppose the Quantity data type already stores an Upper and Lower bound (as can be seen on any diff with quantity changes). The user interface needs to expose it better – currently, we just get a single ± variance – but that’s not solved by a property proposal. —Galaktos (talk) 17:46, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
- Galaktos, how would one enter a range of numbers in a statement? Separated through hyphen or dash (e.g. 25-50)? James Hare (NIOSH) (talk) 19:04, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
  - AFAIK that’s currently not possible :( I guess the best approximation with the current UI would be 37.5±12.5. —Galaktos (talk) 19:32, 5 October 2015 (UTC)

Support Currently the only way we can separate statements for lower and upper bound. --Tobias1984 (talk) 17:51, 5 October 2015 (UTC)

The sample isn't complete. Would the value of the property be set to "unknown"? --- Jura 17:57, 5 October 2015 (UTC)

I only included the upper bound in this proposal to indicate the upper bound; the lower bound is included in the lower bound proposal. It would be a good idea to require both an upper and lower bound, even if there is no known upper or lower bound. For example, an lower bound of 25 with no upper bound would represent the range [25, inf). James Hare (NIOSH) (talk) 19:04, 5 October 2015 (UTC)

Actually, you raise a good point. If upper and lower bounds are qualifiers, what does that leave as the "main" answer? I admittedly don't have a good answer to that question. Someone else might. In the meantime, I have a test case on Test Wikidata. James Hare (NIOSH) (talk) 19:11, 5 October 2015 (UTC)

earliest date (P1319) and latest date (P1326) work in a similar way. It's something that the datatype is said to be doing, but hasn't made its way into the GUI.

An alternate solution could be:

silica dust (Q20963647) →has characteristic (P1552)→ immediately dangerous to life or health (Q682341) → <qualifier: upper bound>: <value: 50 mg/m^3>

--- Jura 19:23, 5 October 2015 (UTC)

Comment As an alternative we could also have an item-datatype qualifier, that links to "lower bound" and "upper bound" and would qualify values that are ranges. I think, if worded correclty, it could also be useful in other places. The has characteristic (P1552) solution is for my sense too far away from what a qualifier should be (not a new statement, but a further description of the value. And if the numeric value is the qualifier we have no way of experessing measurement-conditions. --Tobias1984 (talk) 20:44, 5 October 2015 (UTC)

Comment one might as well go with the following solution:

silica dust (Q20963647) →immediately dangerous to life or health (P2129)→ <value: 50 mg/m^3> → <qualifier: is a>: maximum (Q21067467)

silica dust (Q20963647) →immediately dangerous to life or health (P2129)→ <value: 25 mg/m^3> → <qualifier: is a>: minimum (Q21067468) --- Jura 09:30, 6 October 2015 (UTC)

@Jura1: But "is a" would be used similar to "instance of" and would generate quite some confusion. Ranges are quite common and would deserve a more explicit qualifier. How about "part of range measured". --Tobias1984 (talk) 13:08, 6 October 2015 (UTC)

The existing "is a" property can be used to qualify the statement. --- Jura 13:11, 6 October 2015 (UTC)

The English label for instance of (P31) is "instance of." A statement that said "25, instance of (P31) minimum (Q21067468); 50, instance of (P31) maximum (Q21067467)," while slightly awkward in phrasing, is I think an acceptable way of modeling this. James Hare (NIOSH) (talk) 13:16, 7 October 2015 (UTC)

Oppose @Jura1, Tobias1984: I think Jura's solution works quite well, and P794 (P794) is probably the right qualifier for it. Josh Baumgartner (talk) 19:34, 27 October 2015 (UTC)

Not done due to existing method working; Archived; Josh Baumgartner (talk) 22:17, 18 November 2015 (UTC)

lower bound

Not done

Description	The lowest value in a range
Data type	Number (not available yet)
Domain	as a qualifier for numeric statements
Allowed values	all numbers
Example	immediately dangerous to life or health (P2129) silica dust (Q20963647) → 25 mg/m^3 (lower bound)

Motivation

Sometimes for a measurement there will be a range of accepted values rather than just a single value. Being able to qualify upper and lower bounds reduces our need to create specialized properties. See also the proposal for an upper bound qualifier property. James Hare (NIOSH) (talk) 17:06, 5 October 2015 (UTC)

Discussion

Support Currently the only way we can separate statements for lower and upper bound. --Tobias1984 (talk) 17:52, 5 October 2015 (UTC)

Oppose There is another way, as laid out by Jura in the upper bound proposal, which is a better way to go. Josh Baumgartner (talk) 19:35, 27 October 2015 (UTC)

Not done per same reason as upper bound;

Archived Josh Baumgartner (talk) 22:18, 18 November 2015 (UTC)

Wikidata:Property proposal/Archive/39

ISO 12620 ID

mix'n'match catalogue ID

Fashion Model Directory ID

Politifact Personality Identifier

Orsay Museum artist ID

Emporis building complex ID

Base HP + Base Attack + Base Defense + Base Special Attack + Base Special Defense + Base Speed

construct has conceptual overlap with

price

price (en)

Periapsis date

arterial supply

Fédération Française de Golf ID

CRIStin ID

DfE URN

lymphatic drainage

venous drainage

UEFA player code

Magdeburger Biographisches Lexikon

Member of the Hellenic Parliament ID

Austrian Parliament ID

Swedish Film Database person ID

Danish parish code

Spotify album ID

Discogs release ID

Spotify track ID

SourceForge project

ambitus

short author name

Charted in

Bildindex

Kunstindex Danmark artwork

art identifier for artworks from Catalogo for the Florentine museums

iTunes ID

Groeningemuseum work PID

consumption rate

genetic Association

Current account balance

Net profit

Money supply

Employment by economic sector

PPP GDP per capita

minimal lethal dose

religious denomination

call sign

debut countries

type of electors

number of aftershocks

Swedish Olympic Committee athlete ID

general classification

number of starters

number of graves

number of people buried

Number spaceflight

mean anomaly

Celestial coordinates

NSDAP membership number (1925–1945)

court painter

GNS UFI

Price

1 Sigma

upper bound

lower bound

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