Talk:Q102231

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Autodescription — rose (Q102231)

description: common idea of a plant, typically with flowers considered beautiful
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Please provide references that this item is instance of meme

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I see no references that this item is an instance of with value meme. A meme is described as a "theme that spreads within a culture". I don't see the word meme within the English Wikipedia article. If anybody can back up with any other references that a rose is a meme then please help by adding those as claims. Canemousse (talk) 07:14, 28 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The item "meme" is indeed disambiguated "theme that spreads within a culture". Enwiki describes a meme as "an idea, behavior, or style that spreads from person to person within a culture" and "... regard memes as cultural analogues to genes in that they self-replicate, mutate, and respond to selective pressures." That certainly applies to "rose" which certainly is not limited to a flower of the genus Rosa.
        As to references, it has even got its own Unicode character (two, actually); what more can anyone want? - Brya (talk) 11:00, 28 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
You are right that the enwiki page is not about the same concept as the Wikidata item: it is not about "rose" but on the much narrower topic "Garden roses" (which are flowers of Rosa). I split the item accordingly. - Brya (talk) 17:50, 28 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]