Talk:Q121842

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Autodescription — French (Q121842)

description: citizens or residents of France
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WikiProject France

@UWashPrincipalCataloger: The claim

⟨ subject ⟩ subclass of (P279) View with SQID ⟨ Francophone (Q100710385)  View with Reasonator View with SQID ⟩

is not 100% correct I suppose. It is like saying that all Russian citizens are Russian-speakers, or all German citizens are German-speakers... --Infovarius (talk) 20:04, 23 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Native language[edit]

I marked the statements "Instance of Romance-speaking world" and "native language French" as deprecated because this is wrong. It is well-known that until relatively recent times, many people didn't have French as native language in France (also as late as 1980's, and even further on, there were people native from France that hardly could express themselves in French, especially in rural ares, though they understood it and their number decreased dramatically in last decades). Many of them spoke an Occitan dialect, and some spoke Alsacian (German dialect), basque (an isolate language) or Breton (a celtic language), considering only the metropolitan territories, though French language has been the only official language for a long time.

I don't know if this has been the reason, but the items of many French people indicate French is their native language, but this statement is actually dubious, especially refering to people before XX Century native from eccentric areas, without a proper reference.

CaféBuzz (talk) 08:49, 21 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]