Talk:Q482994

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Autodescription — album (Q482994)

description: grouping of album releases by an artist usually released at the same time with the same title and tracks but in different formats for consumption (digital, CD, LP)
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Classification of the class album (Q482994)  View with Reasonator View with SQID
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Property Data type description required
instance of (P31) Item that class of which this subject is a particular example and member; different from P279 (subclass of); for example: K2 is an instance of mountain; volcano is a subclass of mountain (and an instance of volcanic landform) . Possible values: album (Q482994) yes
title (P1476) Monolingual text published name of a work, such as a newspaper article, a literary work, piece of music, a website, or a performance work yes
language of work or name (P407) Item language associated with this creative work (such as books, shows, songs, broadcasts or websites) or a name (for persons use "native language" (P103) and "languages spoken, written or signed" (P1412)) yes
performer (P175) Item actor, musician, band or other performer associated with this role or musical work yes
publication date (P577) Point in time date or point in time when a work was first published or released yes
place of publication (P291) Item geographical place of publication of the edition (use 1st edition when referring to works) no
form of creative work (P7937) Item structure of a creative work . Possible values: studio album (Q208569), live album (Q209939), compilation album (Q222910), remix album (Q963099), DJ mix (Q2619673), soundtrack album (Q4176708), compilation soundtrack album (Q60030240) no
genre (P136) Item creative work's genre or an artist's field of work (P101). Use main subject (P921) to relate creative works to their topic no
record label (P264) Item brand and trademark associated with the marketing of subject music recordings and music videos no
producer (P162) Item person(s) who produced the film, musical work, theatrical production, etc. (for film, this does not include executive producers, associate producers, etc.) [for production company, use P272, video games - use P178] no
number of parts of this work (P2635) Quantity the number of parts that a work comprises no
tracklist (P658) Item audio tracks contained in this release no
distribution format (P437) Item method (or type) of distribution for the subject no
recorded at studio or venue (P483) Item studio or location where a musical composition/release was recorded no
charted in (P2291) Item chart where the element reached a position no
review score (P444) String review score received by a creative work or other entity no
has characteristic (P1552) Item inherent or distinguishing quality or feature of the entity. Use a more specific property when possible. . Possible values: debut album (Q3303814), eponymously titled work (Q11999895), Christmas-themed album (Q55873388), covers album (Q1138081), benefit compilation album (Q56120111), tribute album (Q734454), collaborative album (Q20737336) no
AllMusic album ID (P1729) External identifier identifier for an album in AllMusic database no
Discogs master ID (P1954) External identifier identifier for a musical work in the Discogs database no
Encyclopaedia Metallum release ID (P2721) External identifier identifier for a release in the Encyclopaedia Metallum database no
MusicBrainz release group ID (P436) External identifier identifier for a release group per the MusicBrainz open music encyclopedia (album, single, etc.) no
Rockipedia release ID (P5171) External identifier identifier of music releases in the Norwegian online service Rockipedia no
Apple Music album ID (U.S. version) (P2281) External identifier identifier for a musical work in the U.S. version of Apple Music website no
Deezer album ID (P2723) External identifier identifier for an album or single on Deezer no
Spotify album ID (P2205) External identifier identifier for an album or single on Spotify no
Tidal album ID (P4577) External identifier identifier of an album on the Tidal website no
See also


Subclass of abstract concept[edit]

I've removed the statements that an album is a subclass of a concrete object such as a memory device, because most of the instances and subclasses are about abstract concepts such as a work rather than a physical item (cf. w:FRBR I guess). I hope P2283 is better. This is how the situation was messed up, seen in wikidata-taxonomy:

$ wdtaxonomy -t Q3395171
...
│  │  ├──audio storage device (Q354004) •6 ×258052 ↑
│  │  │  ╞══cassette (Q149757) •52 ×13 ↑↑ …
│  │  │  ╞══8-track tape (Q270171) •13 ↑ …
│  │  │  ├──album (Q482994) •74 ×258013 ↑↑↑
│  │  │  │  ├──extended play (Q169930) •56 ×11243 ↑↑
│  │  │  │  ├──studio album (Q208569) •36 ×5067
│  │  │  │  │  └──concept album (Q207393) •38 ×24
│  │  │  │  ├──live album (Q209939) •35 ×13338
│  │  │  │  │  └──live video album (Q20089094) ×1119 ↑
│  │  │  │  ├──compilation album (Q222910) •39 ×14665 ↑
│  │  │  │  │  ├──split album (Q368281) •21 ×62
│  │  │  │  │  ├──greatest hits album (Q723849) •23 ×160
│  │  │  │  │  ├──sampler album (Q3622455) •4 ×2
│  │  │  │  │  └──benefit album (Q56120111) ×2
│  │  │  │  ├──tribute album (Q734454) •18 ×66
│  │  │  │  ├──remix album (Q963099) •18 ×870
│  │  │  │  ├──cover album (Q1138081) •1 ×20
│  │  │  │  ├──double album (Q1242743) •12 ×64 ↑
│  │  │  │  ├──mixtape (Q1892995) •25 ×94
│  │  │  │  ├──Mini-LP (Q2073093) •8 ×12
│  │  │  │  ├──solo album (Q2141970) •8 ×17
│  │  │  │  ├──triple album (Q2712714) •2 ×2
│  │  │  │  ├──??? (Q3303814) •6 ×1
│  │  │  │  ├──Street album (Q3975953) •2 ×2
│  │  │  │  ├──soundtrack album (Q4176708) •6 ×680 ↑↑
│  │  │  │  ├──??? (Q4274081) •2 ×2
│  │  │  │  ├──comedy album (Q5151485) •2 ×7
│  │  │  │  ├──spoken word album (Q7578913) •1 ×1
│  │  │  │  ├──??? (Q10541153) •1 ×3
│  │  │  │  ├──video album (Q18539720) ×1754 ↑
│  │  │  │  │  ╞══live video album (Q20089094) ×1119 ↑ …

--Nemo 08:50, 30 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Nemo Hi There! Can you have a look at Property:P3962 "Global Trade Number" as well? Currently that property insists it needs a physical object to assign a bar code, which is confusing when assigning it to an album. Moebeus (talk) 10:28, 30 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I see. Is that even right? Can't one give a bar code (an EAN) to a digital product as well? If it's true that a physical item is required, we can find another Wikidata concept which doesn't mess up with the subclasses of electronic devices. --Nemo 10:33, 30 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Nemo It's not right, you can absolutely give a barcode UPC/EAN to a digital file, and it is indeed frequently done. I'm just not comfortable enough about property constraints and such to go in and change it myself without studying it a lot more :-) Moebeus (talk) 17:41, 30 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Adding visual artwork (Q4502142) as a subclass[edit]

I've added visual artwork (Q4502142) as a subclass. I added this because i've added around 500 claims with the geocoordinates of the location of the album cover (e.g. Arrival (Q162392)) to albums, and those are all conflicted now because album should be a subclass of visual artwork. That makes sense: an album always has some kind of visual artwork attached to it, even if it just digital. Husky (talk) 10:36, 8 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Not all albums has covers. What about digital releases? Musical album is a audial artwork, not visual. --Infovarius (talk) 21:18, 9 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Virtually all releases, including digital ones, have some kind of artwork. Just take a look at a random streaming service: all music you see there has some kind of 'album cover'. Husky (talk) 22:38, 10 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Almost≠all. At least many underground musicians of 1980s have their albums on cassettes without official release (and so, without cover). --Infovarius (talk) 00:18, 12 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Sure, there are always exceptions. But those exceptions are true for most of the items you'll find on Wikidata. I would rather be pragmatic in determining hierarchies. Husky (talk) 13:05, 12 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
 Oppose Per Infovarius. Intensional knowledge is not "pragmatic" by definition. --Horcrux (talk) 18:26, 12 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]