User talk:Belbury
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Why did you remove the image?[edit]
Why did you remove this image? As far as I can see it's pretty much the only CCBY image related to Ubik so why did you remove it? Prototyperspective (talk) 15:30, 19 September 2023 (UTC)
- Hi. For being misleading. Despite the filename it's not an advertisement (either for the book in the real world, or for the product within the book), it's an AI-generated image of what an AI thinks Ubik might look like. I was cleaning up some AI issues on Commons and was surprised to see this image in use over here. Belbury (talk) 15:38, 19 September 2023 (UTC)
- I don't think you have read Ubik. Advertisements for Ubik are a major plot within it. (And also no, it's not what that image is, I don't think you know much about how AI image tools work either nor have you looked at the prompts and parameters used.) Prototyperspective (talk) 15:43, 19 September 2023 (UTC)
- I have read Ubik and I know how AI image tools work. Belbury (talk) 15:49, 19 September 2023 (UTC)
- Ok great, what is your argument for why I should not readd the image if you object to that? Prototyperspective (talk) 15:54, 19 September 2023 (UTC)
- That it superficially looks like an official advertisement for the book, or an illustration from the book, but is 2023 fan art made with an AI tool. Doesn't seem a useful piece of Wikidata to me. Belbury (talk) 16:06, 19 September 2023 (UTC)
- It is an advertisement for Ubik which as explained is a major plot within the book. It is not an advertisement for Ubik the book. Maybe the filename led to some confusion. I'll add a caption then to clarify that it's not official but afaik it wasn't the displayed image anyway, instead of a page with the text Ubik on it is currently the used image. Prototyperspective (talk) 16:18, 19 September 2023 (UTC)
- That's what I'm saying, the filename is misleading. If Wikidata has the option for a clear "fan art of" field, and no policy against AI content, I guess that works. Belbury (talk) 16:21, 19 September 2023 (UTC)
- It is an advertisement for Ubik which as explained is a major plot within the book. It is not an advertisement for Ubik the book. Maybe the filename led to some confusion. I'll add a caption then to clarify that it's not official but afaik it wasn't the displayed image anyway, instead of a page with the text Ubik on it is currently the used image. Prototyperspective (talk) 16:18, 19 September 2023 (UTC)
- That it superficially looks like an official advertisement for the book, or an illustration from the book, but is 2023 fan art made with an AI tool. Doesn't seem a useful piece of Wikidata to me. Belbury (talk) 16:06, 19 September 2023 (UTC)
- Ok great, what is your argument for why I should not readd the image if you object to that? Prototyperspective (talk) 15:54, 19 September 2023 (UTC)
- I have read Ubik and I know how AI image tools work. Belbury (talk) 15:49, 19 September 2023 (UTC)
- I don't think you have read Ubik. Advertisements for Ubik are a major plot within it. (And also no, it's not what that image is, I don't think you know much about how AI image tools work either nor have you looked at the prompts and parameters used.) Prototyperspective (talk) 15:43, 19 September 2023 (UTC)