User talk:Mattythewhite

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John Vandenberg (talk) 15:59, 19 May 2014 (UTC)

Imported from

Please stop adding imported from Wikimedia project (P143) pointing to the English Wikipedia to already existing statements please. The property wasn't designed for that, Wikipedia is not a source. Sjoerd de Bruin (talk) 23:03, 18 March 2016 (UTC)

If the property wasn't designed for citing Wikipedia as a source, then why are you doing as such here? Mattythewhite (talk) 23:25, 18 March 2016 (UTC)

Further, the "Wikidata property example" at imported from Wikimedia project (P143) lists English Wikipedia in the imported from field. Mattythewhite (talk) 23:29, 18 March 2016 (UTC)

It is designed for bot imports and other things. You're adding it to statements added by other users, there is no need to do that. Every "imported from" needs to be replaced by a proper source in the future. Oh, and why I reverted the first link is because you've replaced the correct bot import claims. Sjoerd de Bruin (talk) 23:40, 18 March 2016 (UTC)

Sorry about the person name

I find that my bot import wrong data from Dean Kiely (Q733766) and cause you many troubles. I have correct the data on zhwiki and the bot won't make the same error again. Please tell me if there are other issues. By the way, I am wondering why the full name on zhwiki is "Dean Lawrence Kiely". If you know the reasion, please tell me too. --Kanashimi (talk) 01:28, 19 June 2016 (UTC)

Sorry, I find another one, Rickie Lambert (Q511720). But I have no idea why the full name on zhwiki is Richard "Rickie" Lambert, and which one is correct. May you edit zh:瑞奇·兰伯特 on zhwiki and modify it to the correct one please? Sorry to borrow you. After modification, the bot should not import wrong data again. --Kanashimi (talk) 01:42, 19 June 2016 (UTC)

Q129700

Welcome. I didn't understand why the edit was canceled. Balotelli to 18 years have a passport from Ghana. And after he became a citizen of Italy. From the citizenship of Ghana did not refuse. Mr.Drax (talk) 01:48, 24 February 2018 (UTC)

My point is that Transfermarkt is not a reliable source. It is user edited. Mattythewhite (talk) 14:28, 24 February 2018 (UTC)

Mohamed Salah

He is Arab, so his name should be written in Arabic way. Yes his surname is Ghaly, but his father name is Salah. So I do not understand how you compare an Arab name to a Portuguese, or refer me to an English source.--Mojackjutaily (talk) 06:40, 26 May 2018 (UTC)

I already have referred you to an English source, which shows the family name is Ghaly. Mattythewhite (talk) 14:55, 26 May 2018 (UTC)

Q21061767

Had to revert some of your statements since it deleted earlier accurate statements which had references as well.

If you feel these need to be updated, feel free to do so, but add the data to an existing statement along with references instead of deleting them. This allows the earlier references to co-exist for validation - Unnited meta (talk)

How is your version an improvement? Why do we need the specific date for his Arsenal departure, when standard practice is to include just the year? Mattythewhite (talk) 21:46, 19 June 2018 (UTC)

Isn't that more valid data, knowing whether he left in May or in Jan. If we don't have the info, the year is fine. But having the month specifically makes a difference since it helps to know if a player left mid season or end of season. Also the day helps in sorting - getting sequence of when players joined a club during a specific transfer period etc. This also helps in linking with wikipedia lists which already have specific dates for transfers etc - Unnited meta (talk)

In the prose, perhaps, but the infobox gives years only, which is where the other information in the "member of sports team" property comes from. Mattythewhite (talk) 12:34, 20 June 2018 (UTC)

Yes, the year alone can be derived from the full date, so same property data can be used for both use cases - Unnited meta (talk) 02:30, 23 June 2018 (UTC)

Portuguese onomastics

What do you know that I don’t? Tuvalkin (talk) 16:06, 26 September 2019 (UTC)

EN:WP

Hi. I understand you're not interested in my offer of showing you things to correct where you say you're active. No problem. Today I was working in Commons on images of what we call "şirden" or "şırdan" in Turkish (etymology from Persian) and I saw an EN:WP article. (Normally I do not visit there, if not by chance after an image or so.) The article is called Širden and is about one other food they learned from the Turks, during the Ottoman Empire, in the Balkans and market as own. Whatever. (My knowledge about the dish upon request. My kingdom for a şirden! :) What I was going to tell you is that the latest edit made there by an IP from Istanbul is vandalism. What is added there as "alternative name" is a vulgar word about female genitalia. Maybe you would like to revert it. Take care. --E4024 (talk) 22:45, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

Reverted, thanks for pointing it out. Mattythewhite (talk) 22:50, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

I thank you. May I also request you to kindly remove the calumny added to my talk page by a sockpuppeteer vandal? I see that you are an admin in EN:WP; you can consult any checkuser colleague of yours, who will confirm you I have no such activity there (or anywhere else) while the claimant surely is a sockpuppeteer. There is no need to add insult to injury. Thanks in advance and all the best. --E4024 (talk) 14:22, 25 April 2021 (UTC)

Already reverted. Mattythewhite (talk) 16:29, 25 April 2021 (UTC)

• Hi again. In the WP where you are an admin, I notice everyday articles about Turkish people whose nationality, birth place etc are ignored, although these data are present in Wikidata and sources. What is the problem? Is there an undeclared enmity towards my country? --E4024 (talk) 02:12, 11 July 2021 (UTC)
  • @E4024: Not that I'm aware of. Do you have any specific examples? Mattythewhite (talk) 14:47, 11 July 2021 (UTC)
    • Other than the two I already linked above? I will inform you when I run into other examples... --E4024 (talk) 15:34, 11 July 2021 (UTC)
    • Number three: Q83237912 (Believe me, if she had killed someone, instead of becoming a successful physician, her article would be full of Turk, Turkish, Turkey, Turk, Turkish, Turkey, Turk, Turkish, Turkey...:) --E4024 (talk) 16:17, 11 July 2021 (UTC)

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• Although at the beginning of our interaction I myself said "I understand you're not interested in my offer of showing you things to correct", I feel like I may be wrong, and maybe you really want to see the issues (that created my feelings and thoughts about that place). Therefore, please see and read with attention my words at this discussion. Go to the article linked therein. You will see that -although I wrote those opinions several times here and there- nobody corrected -or dared intervene to correct- the nonsense written there. You may also want to keep an eye on deletion attempts. I'm sincerely sorry to have taken so much of your time. Tell me to stop and I will. Take care. --E4024 (talk) 16:42, 11 July 2021 (UTC)

Dannemann

Please note that Dannemann is a surname, not a given name. Please also note that having more than one surname is far from uncommon among danes.--Hjart (talk) 20:00, 12 June 2021 (UTC)

Note btw that his younger sister Louise Eriksen (Q96242638) carries the name Dannemann too.--Hjart (talk) 05:45, 13 June 2021 (UTC)

@Hjart: I think the 'Scandinavian middle family name' property (Property:P6978) would be appropriate here for Dannemann. Mattythewhite (talk) 13:31, 13 June 2021 (UTC)

Thanks. I wasn't aware of the meaning of that one. --Hjart (talk) 13:55, 13 June 2021 (UTC)

Is Monaco in France?

Hi again. I found a claim like "Monaco, France" (sic) at a WP, where I was trying to see if the article concerning the Turkish surname Varlı was referring to it as a Turkish surname, or like many other things, concepts, works, people etc who are all Turkish the surname was also past silently, without referring to the language. However, what was more interesting to me was, that a person was claimed to reside in "Monaco, France" (sic), using a source that said his residence was Istanbul! Now what should we do in Wikidata? Use that source to claim residence as Istanbul or Monaco, France? All these examples (like these ones or the others that I already showed you at another section above) help me to understand why people say WP is not a reliable source. I think we should better not use the thingy "imported from Wikipedia" as a way of referencing facts in WD, right? Best regards. --E4024 (talk) 02:09, 17 July 2021 (UTC)

Racism in UK

Colin Kazım: Proud to be a Turk (after a racist attack). FYI. Cheers. --E4024 (talk) 15:54, 29 July 2021 (UTC)

@E4024: That's fine, although I feel the claim you've added for the 'native language' property needs sourcing. The description states that it is for a "language or languages a person has learned from early childhood", and seeing as Mr Kazim-Richards was born and raised in London I don't think it can be assumed that Turkish was his native language. Thanks, Mattythewhite (talk) 16:59, 29 July 2021 (UTC)

Mother's tongue. The one that we hear in lullabies. A language as respectable as English and any other. Regards. --E4024 (talk) 18:07, 29 July 2021 (UTC)

@E4024: That isn't what the property is intended for. Mattythewhite (talk) 20:37, 29 July 2021 (UTC)

Quoting you: <<"language or languages a person has learned from early childhood">> Best. --E4024 (talk) 20:40, 29 July 2021 (UTC)

@E4024: So, what you're saying is the *only* language Mr Kazim-Richards learned from early childhood was Turkish? Perhaps English, too, which I've a feeling he may have learned from a young age considering he was born and raised in London, England? Mattythewhite (talk) 20:44, 29 July 2021 (UTC)

• ┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ People who see your edits and my contributions to the item will see clearly who is who and what is what. Bye. --E4024 (talk) 20:49, 29 July 2021 (UTC)
  • @E4024: Fine. If you believe my editing here is problematic feel free to raise it at an appropriate forum, such as WD:PC or an admin's talk page. Mattythewhite (talk) 20:58, 29 July 2021 (UTC)

Image for Stefan de Vrij (Q195953)

Hi Mattythewhite, I am wondering if the image you inserted is really the better choice, since it now depicts the whole football team? Regards, --Dorades (talk) 10:07, 9 March 2022 (UTC)