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Help to delete a data page

I accidentally created Q105077332, can someone help me to delete it, thanks a lot Cyril Yoshi (talk) 04:10, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

@Cyril Yoshi:我剛好新創分類，就直接替換掉囉。--迴廊彼端 (talk) 16:21, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

关于主页的问题

大家好，我在查看首页的时候，发现“欢迎”一栏中的繁简转换没有正常进行，我认为这需要修复，因此我提出本提案。
有问题的显示内容：

-{zh-hans:數據;zh-hant:資料;}-

-{zh-hans:志願者;zh-hant:志工;}-

-{zh-hans:數據捐贈;zh-hant:捐贈資料;}-

-{zh-hans:社区;zh-hant:社群;}-

以上

海の向こうは敵だ！ 01:37, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

改用{{Conversion-zh}}就没问题了，已修。但好像不能按偏好的变体显示。--YFdyh000 (talk) 08:32, 14 March 2021 (UTC)

sovereign state (Q3624078)和Q95433426

我發現有些有些過去的國家（如Ming dynasty (Q9903)）在性質上同時有sovereign state (Q3624078)和Q95433426，兩個應該是不相容的，請問是否有設定上的限制，讓性質只能填其中一個，避免誤填。

應該是在instance of (P31)加個property constraint (P2302)，不過沒得測試，不知道怎麽寫，效果又如何。--Nostalgiacn (talk) 08:37, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

没找到sovereign state (Q3624078)的用法示例，Ming dynasty (Q9903)上是加上始末年来用了。--YFdyh000 (talk) 10:01, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

@YFdyh000:用法很模糊，看到Yuan dynasty (Q7313)也是兩者都有（[1]），不過sovereign state (Q3624078)沒有始末年。

兩個分類共存，就像dead human (Q18093576)和living human (Q18093573)同時存在一樣。

Q95433426是在2020年5月出現的，只被用到元明清和中華民國（大陸時期）上。個人認為Q95433426可以刪了，性質有sovereign state (Q3624078)加始末年和historical country (Q3024240)也是一樣效果，這似乎是主要做法（Principality of Hungary (Q2899771)）。enwiki主要是主權國家列表，而不是前主權國家列表。--Nostalgiacn (talk) 11:55, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

@Neo-Jay, Bouzinac, Infovarius, Luan, Charp238:@Silesianus: Under this discussion, the Q95433426 seems weird, anyone who against this point? --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 22:44, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

Support com a solução arranjada com as alterações feitas (special:diff/1362112397/1370145577). Contudo, seria muito bom haver também uma declaração com valor para o qualificador end time (P582), e não só start time (P580). --Luan (talk) 22:58, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

Comment. "Historical sovereign state" (Q95433426) is not weird and should not be deleted. It is subclass of, and more specific than, "historical country" (Q3024240). Not all historical countries were historical sovereign states. The questions raised above also apply to the relation between "country" (Q6256) and "historical country" (Q3024240). If we can (or should) have both "country" (Q6256) and "historical country" (Q3024240), we can (or should) also have both "sovereign state" (Q3624078) and "historical sovereign state" (Q95433426). --Neo-Jay (talk) 00:10, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

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用户页跨语言链接可以由wikidata提供吗

我不是很清楚标准做法。--EdwardAlexanderCrowley (talk) 04:19, 13 March 2021 (UTC)

不可以。Wikidata item不收录page in User namespace，见Wikidata:Notability。 --Neo-Jay (talk) 05:24, 13 March 2021 (UTC)

Request to merge a wikidata

Q6340147 is established before than Q31102206, could anyone help me to merge the latter one into the former one? The latter is duplicated.特克斯特 (talk) 18:52, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

Done YFdyh000 (talk) 20:35, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

Request to merge a wikidata

Q1135422 is established before than Q17239684, could anyone help me to merge the latter one into the former one? The latter is duplicated. 特克斯特 (talk) 08:31, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

Done，Q17239684看起來沒什麼資料跟連結我就清空拿去用了，也建議您到「偏好設定→小工具→Merge」開啟合併工具，以後可以自行合併。--迴廊彼端 (talk) 11:45, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

好的，那往後就嘗試自己合併了。特克斯特 (talk) 17:04, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

繁简破坏

Wikidata有没有禁止繁简破坏的规则？像这种编辑是允许的吗？ Njzjz (talk) 01:21, 24 April 2021 (UTC)

Wikidata好像是沒有的。英維好像也沒有。不過繁簡就隨他了，為了data這小事而3rr不值得。特克斯特 (talk) 14:57, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

最近活跃的匿名IP用户很喜欢直接替换原有的简体名称。Wikidata并没有直接禁止繁简破坏的规则，但是并没有自动转换繁简的功能，这给使用简体中文的人带来了麻烦。这样的编辑没有益处，而且很可能已经涉及了WD:VD。——ClayM300(留言.📚) 07:31, 11 September 2021 (UTC)

记录我发现的几个手动繁转简的IP：

这几个IP这两天刷了一堆编辑，占满了我的监视列表，查了下记录基本上都是我编辑过的项目，看来是直接从我贡献列表里面找的。查了一下估计是用了代理服务器。

而且这玩意不知道拿什么东西搞的简转繁，直接暴力一对一转换，比如这次编辑，没有转换地区词“-{瓦力欧}-”（正确应该是“-{瓦利歐}-”而非“-{瓦力歐}-”）。如果繁转简不算破坏那是不是手动转换回去也不算破坏？Xzonn2000 (talk) 09:28, 8 October 2021 (UTC)

通知一下（關於專輯類的wikidata）

既然這裡是互助客棧，那就說一下。我剛剛發現在en wiki開的Category關於華語歌手的專輯，例如莫文蔚音樂專輯、Karen Mok albums，這些華語歌手專輯的wikidata，有不少也是重複開的。還有在en wiki的華語歌手專輯也沒連到去中維或者粵維的相應條目。這個問題我才剛發現，以後可以留意一下專輯類的wikidata。我現在還要去merge他們。謝謝。特克斯特 (talk) 15:01, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

話說Wikidata Taiwan社群有跟水利署合作，處理台灣溪流的基本資料，就有遇到一堆宿霧語維基百科那邊產生的Wikidata項目，也是合併很多重覆的。他們大概後來有被罵，所以主要大的溪流是不大需要合併，但一級支流或二級支流常常就有重覆需合併的情形。我比較沒看華語專輯的Wikidata項目，有注意到會協助合併掉。 Supaplex (talk) 02:19, 16 September 2021 (UTC)

Cleaning query about 站

Hello, could you help add correct instance of (P31) to this query https://w.wiki/3RMX (querying text with 站)? Might be metro station (Q928830) or else. Bouzinac ^{💬●✒️●💛} 20:11, 1 June 2021 (UTC)

Hello. 再會啦！車站 should be excluded. Some of them should be railway station (Q55488), or even 气象站 for 花莲气象站. I don't have bot flag, so I can't help you. EdwardAlexanderCrowley (talk) 06:23, 15 June 2021 (UTC)

GPS location for Ürumqi subway stations

Hello, could you please add coordinate location (P625) for this query? https://w.wiki/3VL7 --Bouzinac ^{💬●✒️●💛} 19:55, 15 June 2021 (UTC)

@Bouzinac: Hi, I've added the coordinates and fixed a few that are slightly off. --Stevenliuyi (talk) 09:52, 17 June 2021 (UTC)

Perfect! map --Bouzinac ^{💬●✒️●💛} 09:59, 17 June 2021 (UTC)

关于行政中心的逆约束

属性和行政中心属于一对逆约束（详见Property:P1376#P1376$DBB6B119-5334-43F7-AFDF-29B9CC054441）

很多城市的默认页面（例如南京市）也即该城市的当前行政区划（如中华人民共和国江苏省省会、副省级城市）页面。一方面，作为一个城市默认页面，记载该城市的历史行政区划（如明朝首都）是十分有道理的；另一方面，作为一个具体的行政区划页面，当叙述明朝的行政中心时，一般就不会记载南京市，而是选择历史上更为准确的应天府。但这样就违反了逆约束。

如何解决这个问题？是否应该适当调整方针，或为每个城市额外设置默认页面（这样或许显得冗余）？

目前可以在属性页面用exception to constraint (P2303)为约束添加例外，更好的办法要等phab:T236295解决了。--Stevenliuyi (talk) 08:53, 18 June 2021 (UTC)

桃花源和桃花源记

Q910739连进去的页面有的讲的是“桃花源”这个地方，有的讲的是《桃花源记》这篇散文，是不是应该拆分？

真棒我连签名都没签 --羊羊32521 (talk) 07:21, 3 July 2021 (UTC)

條目的內容就是陶淵明的文章及其衍生文化，關聯文庫沒有問題。--Nostalgiacn (talk) 06:50, 8 July 2021 (UTC)

（已更名）我说的是百科的条目，不同语言的主题不一样，有的是《桃花源记》（如en:The Peach Blossom Spring、id:Taohuayuan Ji、hu:Az őszibarack-virágos forrás），有的是“桃花源”（如zh:桃花源、ja:桃源郷、ko:도원향）。在data“描述”部分也体现这个混乱：法语的描述是 œuvre chinoise du Ve siècle（5世纪的中文作品），而日语的描述是“俗界を離れた他界”（远离俗世的另一个世界）。——魔琴 (talk) 08:18, 26 August 2021 (UTC)

支持及早拆分，不然以後還會有第三、四、五種意義出現。--迴廊彼端 (talk) 00:29, 27 August 2021 (UTC)

中国地铁图 - Chinese subways map

Hello, anyone willing to help check and clean that map : Hong Kong looks a bit dirty, for instance ?

#defaultView:Map{"hide":["?coords", "?line","?rgb"]}
SELECT ?station ?stationLabel ?coords ?line ?layer ?rgb WHERE {
  ?station wdt:P31 wd:Q928830;
    wdt:P17 wd:Q148;
    wdt:P625 ?coords;
    wdt:P81 ?subwayLine;
    wdt:P197 ?pred.
  MINUS { ?station (wdt:P576|wdt:P582|wdt:P3999) ?dispar. }
  MINUS {
    ?station wdt:P5817 ?interdit.
    VALUES ?interdit {
      wd:Q811683
      wd:Q63065035
      wd:Q12377751
      wd:Q55653430
      wd:Q30108381
      wd:Q55570340
      wd:Q11639308
    }
  }
  ?pred wdt:P625 ?cds.
  BIND(IF((xsd:double(?depth / 10 )) = (xsd:integer(?depth / 10 )), ?cds, "") AS ?coords)
  ?pred (p:P625/psv:P625/wikibase:geoLatitude) ?lat1;
    (p:P625/psv:P625/wikibase:geoLongitude) ?lon1.
  ?station (p:P625/psv:P625/wikibase:geoLatitude) ?lat2;
    (p:P625/psv:P625/wikibase:geoLongitude) ?lon2.
  BIND(CONCAT("LINESTRING(", STR(?lon1), " ", STR(?lat1), ",", STR(?lon2), " ", STR(?lat2), ")") AS ?str)
  BIND(STRDT(?str, geo:wktLiteral) AS ?line)
  ?subwayLine wdt:P465 ?rgb.
  SERVICE wikibase:label {
    bd:serviceParam wikibase:language "zh,fr".
    ?subwayLine rdfs:label ?layer.
  } 
}
GROUP BY ?station ?stationLabel ?coords ?line ?layer ?rgb

Try it!

--Bouzinac ^{💬●✒️●💛} 20:32, 23 June 2021 (UTC)

@Bouzinac::Just take a look. the Changchun Rail Transit (Q2586148) and Qingdao Metro (Q2620251) did not match the reality.--Nostalgiacn (talk) 05:53, 9 July 2021 (UTC)

Hi Nostalgiacn, I have slightly modified the query above. Changchun appears but data stills need cleaning. Work in progres... Any help would be nice.

#title: Carte des métros de Chine/China subways v2
#defaultView:Map{"hide":["?coords", "?searchlines", "?termini","?rgb", "?line_draw"]}
SELECT distinct ?stationLabel ?linesLabel ?searchlines ?lignes ?line_draw ?termini ?station ?coords ?pred ?rgb WHERE {
?searchlines wdt:P17 wd:Q148;wdt:P31/wdt:P279* wd:Q728937; wdt:P559 ?termini#quels sont les terminus de ce métro, what are the ends of these lines
  ; wdt:P465 ?rgb   .
 VALUES ?stations_type { 
               wd:Q928830 #station de métro
               wd:Q2175765 # tramway
             }
  ?station wdt:P31/wdt:P279* ?stations_type;  
    wdt:P81 ?searchlines;
    wdt:P625 ?coords  ;
    wdt:P197 ?pred.
   ?pred wdt:P625 ?coords_pred;
    wdt:P81 ?subwayLine_pred.
  ?station p:P197 _:b1.
  _:b1 ps:P197 ?pred ;
    pq:P5051 ?towards;
    pq:P81 ?line_pq.
  FILTER(?subwayLine_pred = ?searchlines)#on ne prend les LINES que si la correspondance est sur la même ligne
  FILTER(?towards = ?termini) 
  FILTER(?station != ?termini)
  MINUS { ?station (wdt:P576|wdt:P582|wdt:P3999) ?dispar. }
  MINUS {
    ?station wdt:P5817 ?interdit.
    VALUES ?interdit { 
      wd:Q811683
      wd:Q63065035 
      wd:Q12377751
      wd:Q55653430
      wd:Q30108381
      wd:Q55570340
      wd:Q11639308
    }
  }
  ?pred (p:P625/psv:P625/wikibase:geoLatitude) ?lat1   ;
    (p:P625/psv:P625/wikibase:geoLongitude) ?lon1  .
  ?station (p:P625/psv:P625/wikibase:geoLatitude) ?lat2 ;
    (p:P625/psv:P625/wikibase:geoLongitude) ?lon2.
  BIND(CONCAT("LINESTRING(", STR(?lon1), " ", STR(?lat1),  ",", STR(?lon2), " ", STR(?lat2), ")") AS ?str)
  BIND(STRDT(?str, geo:wktLiteral) AS ?line_draw  )
  SERVICE wikibase:label {
    bd:serviceParam wikibase:language "fr,zh,en".
    ?searchlines rdfs:label ?layer .
    ?searchlines rdfs:label ?linesLabel.
    ?station rdfs:label ?stationLabel.

  }  }

Carte des métros de Chine/China subways v2

Bouzinac ^{💬●✒️●💛} 09:41, 9 July 2021 (UTC)

[通知] 所有台灣村里用台灣政府資料集完成匯入

大家好，台灣所有用到Code of Household Registration and Conscription Information System (Taiwan) (P5020)的village (Q7930614)，包括未來新設的，已經全在Wikidata上了。有些Wikidata Taiwan (Q65555605)成員有開始把村里連結到Taiwanese indigenous peoples (Q216839)的Q55747241。也許有重覆的村里，因為有人從中文維基百科匯入，有些用政府資料集。也許有一天會進一步處理數位化前存在的里，像是Taipei (Q1867)Nangang District (Q271073)大豐里, 麗山里。 Supaplex (talk) 10:16, 16 September 2021 (UTC)

辛苦了。—— Eric Liu_{（留言．百科用戶頁）} 19:38, 20 October 2021 (UTC)

This section was archived on a request by: Stang 03:37, 9 December 2021 (UTC)

Harbin subways : could anyone populate P625 coords?

https://w.wiki/49ht Thank you Bouzinac ^{💬●✒️●💛} 13:50, 1 October 2021 (UTC)

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合并Q110050545至Q7051064

Q110050545的页面[zh:诺福克立法议会 (1979年 - 2015年)]为Q7051064[en:Norfolk Island Legislative Assembly]的翻译版本 – The preceding unsigned comment was added by Seele2021 (talk • contribs) at 02:39, 11 December 2021 (UTC).

已由@中文維基百科20021024完成。Stang 16:12, 12 December 2021 (UTC)

This section was archived on a request by: Stang 13:29, 15 December 2021 (UTC)

即將舉行關於理事會選舉的反饋意見徵求

為了準備接下來的理事會選舉，理事會即將於2022年1月7日開始至2月10日止徵求反饋意見。

雖然詳細內容在開始的前一週才會做最終確定，但我們已確認至少有兩個問題將在此次反饋意見徵求中詢問：

什麼是確保新興社群在理事會中也有公平代表性的最佳方式？

候選人在選舉期間應該有哪些參與？

雖然也可能再添加其他問題，但運動策略與治理團隊希望能提供社群成員和自治體充分的時間，在反饋意見徵求期開始之前能考慮並準備對於以上問題的想法。對於目前尚未有完整的問題列表，我們感到抱歉。問題列表應只會再增加一或兩個問題。我們希望不要讓社群成員有太多負擔，但想通知您這個訊息，並非常歡迎您對這些重要的問題進行反饋。

您想在此次反饋意見徵求期間協助組織與本地社群的對話嗎？

請在元維基上與運動策略與治理團隊聯繫，或透過Telegram，或者寄電郵至msgwikimedia.org.

如果您有任何問題或顧慮，歡迎直接聯繫我。在1月3日之前，因適逢假期運動策略與治理團隊可能會有較晚回覆的狀況，還請您見諒。我們也知道一些社群成員和自治體在12月這個時候為離線狀態。如果您在假期中收到此訊息，我們深表歉意。

祝好，

運動策略與治理團隊VChang (WMF) (talk) 19:08, 23 December 2021 (UTC)

某些item不能编辑

如 git不能编辑，是什么原因？ --Bangbang.S 11:34, 30 November 2021 (UTC)

@Bangbang.S: 此页面被半保护。您可以在讨论页上放置一枚{{Ep}}模板告知需要如何修改。Stang 15:06, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

@Stang: 感谢回复，还有2个问题：1，被半保护的页面，没有提示，是故意为之吗？放一个友好的提示是不是更好？2，被半保护的页面，是哪些用户可以编辑呢？那里有说明，这里的介绍没有zh.wikipedia.org 清楚 --Bangbang.S 11:39, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

@Bangbang.S: 右上角会有一个自动出现的小锁，没有提示应该是技术原因；自动确认用户，这里标准是4天50次编辑。Stang 14:10, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

对于没有权限的，且想贡献一份力量的人不友好，是否考虑增加一个 REQUEST for modifing 功能？ – The preceding unsigned comment was added by Bangbang.S (talk • contribs) at 11:41, 3 January 2022 (UTC).

@Bangbang.S: 有，但是您实际上通过在讨论页上提交编辑请求最方便。Stang 11:22, 8 January 2022 (UTC)

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桃花源和桃花源记

中国地铁图 - Chinese subways map

[通知] 所有台灣村里用台灣政府資料集完成匯入

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