Wikidata:Properties for deletion/P8895

Property:P8895

All the Tropes ID (P8895): (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs | discussion)

Now that Property:P11250 exists this identifer is redundant. All we have to do is to move all instances of this identifier to Miraheze article ID (P11250) and add a allthetropes: in front of the original value (All the Tropes ID (P8895) > Future_Diary/Characters#Yuno_Gasai_-_The_2nd becomes Miraheze article ID (P11250) > allthetropes:Future_Diary/Characters#Yuno_Gasai_-_The_2nd and etc) Trade (talk) 14:29, 7 October 2023 (UTC)

@Shisma, Lockal, MJL:--Trade (talk) 22:27, 7 October 2023 (UTC)

Would your bot have time to move the identifiers if necessary? @BrokenSegue:--Trade (talk) 01:35, 8 October 2023 (UTC)

 Support after migration is completed Shisma (talk) 07:55, 19 October 2023 (UTC)

I changed my mind. –Shisma (talk) 08:00, 8 November 2023 (UTC)

 Support Arlo Barnes (talk) 16:03, 12 October 2023 (UTC)

 Oppose. Sorry, I don't understand the reason. When All the Tropes identifier was originally created, I did not even know that it was a Mirahese project. It is a problem of discoverability: other editors also won't know that to add "All the Tropes" they need to add Mirahese. Calling it obsolete is like calling all prefix-based redirectors like identifiers.org, DOI or even Special:GoToInterwiki/wikia:Projectname:Article_name superior to original websites. Lockal (talk) 10:10, 16 October 2023 (UTC)

don't you think the discoverability problem can be solved by adding "All the Tropes ID" as an alias to the Miraheze article ID (P11250) property? Shisma (talk) 08:14, 19 October 2023 (UTC)

@Lockal, MJL, Trade: a seperate property has the advantage of being more stable. Should the All the Tropes community should decide to migrate away from Mirahese (migrations in and out of wiki farms happen, I hear), this property can be changed to resolve to a different url: problem solved. I propose: lets  Keep this property and consider it a more precise subproperty of Miraheze article ID (P11250). Furthermore, lets avoid redundancy by using the more precise property where possible, employing constraints. this approach can be applied going forward with new properties pointing to wiki farms or wiki networks–Shisma (talk) 08:23, 8 November 2023 (UTC)

I dont see the advantage. If ATT moves farm, we can simply migrate the ID'a to the new farm identifier Trade (talk) 16:05, 21 November 2023 (UTC)

 Keep per Shisma. Lewis Hulbert (talk) 22:37, 8 November 2023 (UTC)