Wikidata:Property proposal/BMI Work
BMI work ID
[edit]Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Creative work
| Description | Registration of a song at BMI |
|---|---|
| Represents | Broadcast Music, Inc. (Q891885) |
| Data type | External identifier |
| Domain | song (Q7366) |
| Allowed values | \d+ |
| Example | |
| Planned use | reference to ISWC code and the artists of a song |
| Formatter URL | http://repertoire.bmi.com/DetailView.aspx?detail=titleid&keyid=$1&ShowNbr=0&ShowSeqNbr=0&blnWriter=True&blnPublisher=True&blnArtist=True |
| See also | ISWC (P1827) |
- Motivation
In the United States BMI, ASCAP and SESAC are responsible for the management of music rights. BMI handles the rights of 12 million musical works created and owned by more than 750,000 songwriters, composers and music publishers. The BMI work number gives access of a song to the songwriter, composer and label as well as all performers of a song. Besides that it gives access to the ISWC number of the song as well as the IPI numbers of the artists. --Hannolans (talk) 15:18, 25 May 2017 (UTC)
EDIT: the deeplink doesn't seem to work, only after accepting the disclaimer conditions and do a search. Also, the disclaimer say it isn't allowed to link. If we can;t deeplink technically or legal wise, the proposal is to have the BMI number without a link for the moment. Using the BMI number without a link is less useful, but it might be available in the future somehow somewhere and it can be helpful as at the moment this database is a trusted source to verify ISWC and author information. --Hannolans (talk) 12:00, 30 May 2017 (UTC)
- Discussion
It looks like the above links only works when you first accept the disclaimer on this page: http://repertoire.bmi.com/Disclaimer.aspx?blnWriter=True&blnPublisher=True&blnArtist=False&blnAltTitles=False Is there a way to circumvent this or otherwise, how do we deal with this limited access sites? --Hannolans (talk) 18:37, 25 May 2017 (UTC)
- That disclaimer says "You may not copy, distribute, download, publish, modify, reformat, reconfigure, extract, scrape, link, incorporate into other software, databases or online material, or otherwise appropriate the database or any part thereof, without the express written permission of BMI." maybe it's worth contacting them about this before creating a property? ChristianKl (talk) 13:19, 26 May 2017 (UTC)
- What is the Wikimedia policy towards linking? In the Netherlands it is allowed to create deeplinks to content. If Wikimedia doesn't allow deeplinking and BMI is not in favor, would it make sense to have this id nonetheless as a property but without a link? Or is it useless without a link? --Hannolans (talk) 11:00, 28 May 2017 (UTC)
- Such a term is unenforceable in UK law, and surely in US law? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:04, 30 May 2017 (UTC)
Support. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:04, 30 May 2017 (UTC)- Just found out that the concurrent organisation in the US, ASCAP, do make share links available to individual works they have: see for example Dancing Queen (version of Laakso, not the Abba version) I will do a proposal for that one as well --Hannolans (talk) 12:09, 30 May 2017 (UTC)
- Support, any respectable jurisdiction treats their terms of service as unenforceable − Pintoch (talk) 13:17, 9 December 2017 (UTC)
- Given that the formatter URL does not work reliably I propose to just create this property without it. − Pintoch (talk) 16:00, 19 February 2018 (UTC)
@Pintoch, ChristianKl, Pigsonthewing, Hannolans: 
Done: BMI work ID (P4860). − Pintoch (talk) 10:40, 20 February 2018 (UTC)