Wikidata:Property proposal/Poetry in Voice ID

Poetry In Voice poet ID

Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Person

   Done: Poetry In Voice poet ID (P5506) (Talk and documentation)

Description	identifier for a poet on the Poetry In Voice website
Represents	Poetry In Voice (Q55472361)
Data type	External identifier
Domain	human (Q5)
Allowed values	String
Example 1	Margaret Atwood (Q183492) → margaret-atwood-0
Example 2	Irving Layton (Q1673289) → irving-layton-0
Example 3	Rita Wong (Q7336616) → rita-wong
Format and edit filter validation	P54
Source	https://www.poetryinvoice.com/poems/poets
External links	Use in sister projects: [ar] • [de] • [en] • [es] • [fr] • [he] • [it] • [ja] • [ko] • [nl] • [pl] • [pt] • [ru] • [sv] • [vi] • [zh] • [commons] • [species] • [wd] • [en.wikt] • [fr.wikt].
Planned use	Template:Literature links (Q54933000)
Number of IDs in source	235
Expected completeness	eventually complete (Q21873974)
Formatter URL	https://www.poetryinvoice.com/poems/poets/$1
See also	Les Voix de la poésie poet ID (P5477)

Motivation

This new Wikidata property related to poetry (Q55116891) would of course improve our coverage of poetry (Q482). Thierry Caro (talk) 14:08, 12 July 2018 (UTC)

Discussion

Thierry Caro Fralambert Amqui Antoine2711 (talk) Helmoony joplam QultureQc Jura YanikB Mykola Swarnyk Jimj_wpg Deror avi BeatrixBelibaste Hannes Röst Qui1che Natharchives JFVoll Denelson83 WriterRamsay

Notified participants of WikiProject Canada. Thierry Caro (talk) 14:08, 12 July 2018 (UTC)

•  Support David (talk) 14:58, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
•  Support. Nomen ad hoc (talk) 11:04, 17 July 2018 (UTC).
•  Oppose this seems very similar to Les Voix de la poésie poet ID (P5477). These are just different language editions of the same website, I think we could use just one property and multiple formatter URLs with language qualifiers. For instance https://www.poetryinvoice.com/poems/poets/margaret-atwood and https://www.lesvoixdelapoesie.com/poems/poets/margaret-atwood redirect to the same thing (just remove the "-0" at the end of the URLs, they are not actually needed it seems). − Pintoch (talk) 07:48, 19 July 2018 (UTC)

  @Pintoch: These databases don't have the same content. Margaret Atwood (Q183492) happens to be in both but genevieve-desrosiers-0 – for Geneviève Desrosiers (Q28952282) – doesn't work in the English version as rita-wong – for Rita Wong (Q7336616) – does not either in the French one, for instance. This makes perfect sense once one realizes that obviously not all the covered poets write in both languages or have been translated from one to the other. Thierry Caro (talk) 08:31, 19 July 2018 (UTC)

  OK. I got it. You kept the poems/poets/ part constant. But then it's still not practical to have only one property as we'll be using identifiers such as poemes/poetes/genevieve-desrosiers and poems/poets/rita-wong to have everything covered. Thierry Caro (talk) 08:45, 19 July 2018 (UTC)

  @Thierry Caro: thanks, Rita Wong (Q7336616) is indeed not in both. − Pintoch (talk) 07:04, 20 July 2018 (UTC)

•  Comment. Mix'n'match catalog ID (P2264) will be set to 1520. Thierry Caro (talk) 09:10, 20 July 2018 (UTC)

@ديفيد عادل وهبة خليل 2, Nomen ad hoc, Thierry Caro, Pintoch:  Done: Poetry In Voice poet ID (P5506). − Pintoch (talk) 07:48, 21 July 2018 (UTC)