Wikidata:Property proposal/attested

attested in

   Done: attested in (P5323) (Talk and documentation)

Description	document where a lemme is attested
Data type	Form
Domain	property
Allowed values	all documents
Example	"mimsy" → Jabberwocky (Q250371)
Planned use	add examples on properties for forms

Motivation

Motivation:

• should be on form as what is present in a text is a lemme not a lexeme ("actor"@en, "actour"@en and "actress"@en is the same lexeme but the attestations of these lemma vary a lot).
• link to the Q item of the text (preferably a version, edition or translation (Q3331189) but any subclass of media (Q340169) is acceptable)
  • could be used with qualifiers (like page(s) (P304) or quotation (P1683); point in time like point in time (P585) could also possibly be used but this information is usually already present in the Q item, for instance
    ⟨ Jabberwocky (Q250371)    ⟩ publication date (P577) ⟨ '1871' ⟩
    )
• could have several values, the first one is an obvious choice (and could complement the 'date of first attestation' proposal above) but latter attestations could be useful too (a recent one or the last one, or even a well-know one, like "Berliner"@de by JFK in June 1963)

Cdlt, VIGNERON (talk) 10:26, 3 May 2018 (UTC)

Discussion

• Hi VIGNERON - I think your proposal should rather go to its own page - or is it intended to replace the proposal above? The two look unrelated to me. − Pintoch (talk) 09:58, 3 May 2018 (UTC)
  • Ooups, thanks Pintoch, my mistake obviously. VIGNERON (talk) 10:21, 3 May 2018 (UTC)
•  Support presumably we don't want every document containing a lexeme to be added with this property, do we have any reasonable criteria for limiting this? ArthurPSmith (talk) 17:47, 3 May 2018 (UTC)
  • @ArthurPSmith: it depends on the lemma, for very rare one (the true hapax legomenon (Q168417)) we can easily have the complete list of the only attestation ;) For most words, I would says that 3-5 attestations would be good. Cdlt, VIGNERON (talk) 09:21, 25 May 2018 (UTC)
•  Support -- Duesentrieb (talk) 12:06, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

@Duesentrieb, Pintoch, VIGNERON, ArthurPSmith:  Done: Property:P5322 attested in (P5323) with the corrected datatype (item, not form) − Pintoch (talk) 04:32, 16 June 2018 (UTC)