Wikidata:Property proposal/explain xkcd ID

explain xkcd ID

Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Authority control

   Done: explain xkcd ID (P11641) (Talk and documentation)

Description	identifier for an explain xkcd article
Represents	explain xkcd (Q109566908)
Data type	External identifier
Domain	item; comic strip (Q838795), fictional human (Q15632617), literary work (Q7725634), human (Q5), xkcd (Q13915)
Allowed values	[^#<>\[\]{}
Example 1	Barrel - Part 1 (Q18611942)explain xkcd ID1:_Barrel_-_Part_1
Example 2	Wikipedian Protester (Q18613036)explain xkcd ID285:_Wikipedian_Protester
Example 3	Can't Sleep (Q18614369)explain xkcd ID571:_Can't_Sleep
Example 4	Serena Versus the Drones (Q66498798)explain xkcd ID2190:_Serena_Versus_the_Drones
Example 5	Megan (Q18646076)explain xkcd IDMegan
Example 6	Black Hat (Q18646002)explain xkcd IDBlack_Hat
Example 7	Thing Explainer (Q60740291)explain xkcd IDThing_Explainer
Example 8	Randall Munroe (Q285048)explain xkcd IDRandall_Munroe
Example 9	Cory Doctorow (Q110436)explain xkcd IDCory_Doctorow
Source	https://explainxkcd.com
External links	Use in sister projects: [ar] • [de] • [en] • [es] • [fr] • [he] • [it] • [ja] • [ko] • [nl] • [pl] • [pt] • [ru] • [sv] • [vi] • [zh] • [commons] • [species] • [wd] • [en.wikt] • [fr.wikt].
Planned use	add IDs to relevant items; use stated in (P248)explain xkcd (Q109566908) and MediaWiki page ID (P9675)integer value as qualifiers
Number of IDs in source	2903
Expected completeness	always incomplete (Q21873886)
Implied notability	Wikidata property for an identifier that does not imply notability (Q62589320)
Formatter URL	https://explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/$1
Robot and gadget jobs	Addition of this property to the items of individual xkcd strips could possibly be automated with the following method: Find items which contain instance of (P31)comic strip (Q838795) and part of (P361)xkcd (Q13915) and/or part of the series (P179)xkcd (Q13915) On those items, read issue (P433) Use that number as an argument for the formatter URL https://explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/$1 The number should redirect to the full page ID; read that ID from the URL Add ID as value to this property
Applicable "stated in"-value	explain xkcd (Q109566908)
Single-value constraint	yes
Wikidata project	WikiProject Authority control (Q88300058), WikiProject Webcomics (Q21829798)

Motivation

explain xkcd (explain xkcd (Q109566908)) is a wiki that provides explanations of jokes in xkcd (Q13915) strips; this is an important job, since xkcd can be a bit obscure and/or complex at times. This property could be used to easily link to a strip's wiki page, both on and off Wikidata. It also has information about characters, people, books, etc. that are in or related to it. — gabldotink [ talk | contribs ] 02:53, 31 January 2023 (UTC)

Discussion

•  Weak support--Tinker Bell ★ ♥ 23:55, 1 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Comment For stability, consider using page IDs rather than the URL. For instance, 23373 insead of Cory_Doctorow. The page ID can be found in the page information. --Yirba (talk) 18:41, 2 February 2023 (UTC)

  We usually qualify the page title with MediaWiki page ID (P9675). Laftp0 (talk) 03:32, 4 February 2023 (UTC)

  The proposal has been updated to mention MediaWiki page ID (P9675) as a qualifier. — gabldotink [ talk | contribs ] 03:33, 6 February 2023 (UTC)

•  Comment if you change this to use pageid, you can have my support too. Infrastruktur (talk) 12:55, 17 February 2023 (UTC)

  but we have MediaWiki page ID (P9675)? Laftp0 (talk) 14:37, 17 February 2023 (UTC)

• True, but it's used as a generic qualifier, and not suitable for generating links. PageIDs also stay the same even if the page should change name. Infrastruktur (talk) 22:29, 17 February 2023 (UTC)

•  Support Laftp0 (talk) 06:38, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Wait Not ready, as the discussion wehter to use pageid or the name isn't really done. ChristianKl ❪✉❫ 21:55, 20 February 2023 (UTC)

• What do you prefer @gabldotink:? Are you ok with pageID or would you rather use the page title in the original proposal? Infrastruktur (talk) 09:26, 21 February 2023 (UTC)

  Apologies; I've been meaning to reply to this discussion for a while.

  MediaWiki page ID (P9675), according to its property examples, exists to be an unchanging identifier, as @Infrastruktur: points out. However, this also means that it already fulfills the role that Infrastruktur is describing, as Laftp0 mentions. It is designed for use as a qualifier for a page title, and as such, we don't need to duplicate its usage with this property.

  As MediaWiki page ID (P9675) also shows, MediaWiki identifiers are traditionally the page "title," not the numerical ID (e.g. Fandom article ID (P6262), English Vikidia ID (P7829), WikiTrek article ID (P8344), etc.). As such, I vote to have this property's value as what is displayed in the URL.

  — gabldotink [ talk | contribs ] 15:40, 21 February 2023 (UTC)

@Gabldotink:  Done explain xkcd ID (P11641) Midleading (talk) 03:48, 12 March 2023 (UTC)