Wikidata:Property proposal/spoken by
spoken by[edit]
Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Sister projects
| Description | indicates the person who is speaking in this file |
|---|---|
| Data type | Item |
| Domain | primarily pronunciation audio files on Commons |
| Allowed values | human (Q5) |
| Example 1 | File:Felix Reda de.ogg → Felix Reda (Q15731842) |
| Example 2 | File:Sv-Jussi Björling.ogg → somevalue author name string (P2093) "Karin Crantz" |
| Example 3 | File:Nl-Yoghurt-article.ogg → somevalue Wikimedia username (P4174) "Eensannebloem" |
| See also | creator (P170), performer (P175), speaker (P823), voice actor (P725), narrator (P2438) |
Motivation[edit]
There are a lot of pronunciation files on Commons (over 1.5 million in commons:Category:Audio files made by jeuwre and commons:Category:Lingua Libre pronunciation alone) and those are not the only type of file which contain someone speaking.
I have been running a bot to add structured data on Commons for audio files like these, but I haven't found a good property to represent the person speaking. We have various more specific properties but they don't seem to fit here. The ones I've found or that were suggested to me:
- creator (P170) - This is vague and too generic. Who is the creator of a file? The person speaking? The person recording? The person editing it afterwards (e.g. clipping words out of a longer recording)? The person who uploads it?
- performer (P175) - This is intended more for musicians, actors and other creative roles. Even if the English label works, the German one sounds odd to me. It also appears to be overloaded with meanings already (12 subject items) and is marked as being the inverse of character role (P453).
- speaker (P823) - This is intended for someone who gives a presentation/lecture/speech at an event (a public speaker) and the item is expected to have a participant and a location. The English label is fine, but the German label sounds odd to me.
- voice actor (P725) - This is intended for the person who voices a character, e.g. in a film, on TV/radio or in a video game. The person is expected to have an occupation like actor or singer. The German label is fine, but the English one would be wrong.
- narrator (P2438) - This is intended for the person who tells a story. The item it's used on is expected to be a work.
- author (P50) - This is intended for the person who wrote something, which can be different from the person who reads it aloud. The item it's used on is expected to be a work.
This would correspond to the parameter "speaker" in commons:Template:Pronunciation file and commons:Template:Lingua Libre record. The properties speaker (P823) and narrator (P2438) could probably be marked as subproperties of this one.
- Nikki (talk) 00:56, 30 June 2022 (UTC)
Discussion[edit]
Support --Lucas Werkmeister (talk) 07:30, 30 June 2022 (UTC)- Support -- TiagoLubiana (talk) 19:06, 30 June 2022 (UTC)
- Support Lectrician1 (talk) 13:05, 1 July 2022 (UTC)
- Support VIGNERON (talk) 10:21, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
- Support --Thadguidry (talk) 16:10, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
- Support, but not sure whether the description limits the use of this property to audio files. Are video files covered as well? What about non-computer sound and moving image recordings? Maybe the description needs a little tweaking. UWashPrincipalCataloger (talk) 21:45, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
- I don't see why video files wouldn't be included, e.g. the Wikitongues videos are videos of people speaking. I'm not sure what you mean by "non-computer sound and moving image recordings"? - Nikki (talk) 10:27, 25 July 2022 (UTC)
- @Nikki: I was referring to physical recordings, such as CDs, videotapes, etc. Things that aren't only audio/video files on a computer. UWashPrincipalCataloger (talk) 23:48, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
