Wikidata:Property proposal/territorial entity ranking context

territorial entity ranking context

Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Place

   Not done

Description	qualifier for area rank, population rank and population density rank to indicate which class of territorial entity the rank relates to.
Data type	Item
Allowed values	subclass of territory (Q1496967)
Example 1	Cambridge (Q21713103) rank properties → district of England (Q349084)
Example 2	Cambridgeshire (Q21272276) rank properties → non-metropolitan county (Q769603)
Example 3	Pembrokeshire (Q213361) rank properties → principal area of Wales (Q15979307)
Example 4	West Midlands (Q23124) rank properties → ceremonial county of England (Q180673)
Example 5	Suffolk (Q23111) rank properties → one value non-metropolitan county (Q769603), one value ceremonial county of England (Q180673)
Example 6	City of Bristol (Q21693433) rank properties → one value district of England (Q349084), one value ceremonial county of England (Q180673)
Planned use	apply to 3 ranks on each of 450 territorial entities

Motivation

This implements the qualifier proposed above by ArthurPSmith. Keith Edkins (talk) 16:44, 7 November 2019 (UTC)

"above" where? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:23, 21 November 2019 (UTC)

Discussion

•  Support I guess though I wonder if a more general "ranking context" would work too? Or maybe we already have such a property? ArthurPSmith (talk) 18:15, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
•  Comment I didn't see the exchange which inspired this proposal. On Wikidata:Property proposal/population rank I have suggested of (P642) might fulfill this role, but I'd not oppose a more specific property, if a convincing argument is made for it. Agree with ArthurPSmith that there is no need to restrict this to territorial entities -- eg one might want to rank all sorts of things, by various kinds of determination method (P459). Jheald (talk) 17:44, 11 November 2019 (UTC)
•  Oppose Use subject has role (P2868). Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:22, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
•  Oppose Excessive duplication of information from referenced item. Generally no need to specify the type of territory (Q1496967)-based properties like located in the administrative territorial entity (P131) with qualifiers. So you can get to the point that all the properties of the referenced item will be duplicated by qualifiers. For example adding occupation (P106) or date of birth (P569) to spouse (P26). Сидик из ПТУ (talk) 11:35, 28 January 2020 (UTC)
• @Keith Edkins, ArthurPSmith, Pigsonthewing, Сидик из ПТУ:  Not done more opposition then support and stale. ChristianKl ❪✉❫ 13:05, 7 January 2021 (UTC)