Wikidata:Property proposal/title geographic ref

Withdrawn

Description	location associated with the title
Data type	Item
Domain	values of noble title (P97)
Allowed values	geographic locations
Example 1	Prince of Orange (Q549449) → Principality of Orange (Q2281221)
Example 2	Baron Sandhurst (Q4862782) → Sandhurst (Q995488)
Example 3	Duke of Beaufort (Q1245377) → Château de Beaufort (Q2968472)
Example 4	Baron Robinson (Q65944878) → Kielder Forest (Q6405248), Adelaide (Q5112)
See also	named after (P138), owner of (P1830), applies to jurisdiction (P1001), location (P276)

Maybe there is a better description or term for this, but the type of association may vary from one country to another and from one century to the next. I think it would be an improvement over named after (P138), owner of (P1830), applies to jurisdiction (P1001) and possibly others. (Add your motivation for this property here.) --- Jura 09:05, 21 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose I think that usege of named after (P138) and applies to jurisdiction (P1001) in these cases is even better, as you can distinguish the naming only (named after (P138)) and the real sovereignty (applies to jurisdiction (P1001)) over some territory (using start time (P580) and end time (P582)).--Jklamo (talk) 08:24, 25 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
- I do not think owner of (P1830) (you deleted since) is suitable in the rare cases where there is "real sovereignty" (e.g Prince of Liechtenstein). applies to jurisdiction (P1001) might work if there are additional P31 values on such items ("head of state" etc), but merely for the title it seems suboptimal. --- Jura 09:39, 25 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
- Do we know if Prince of Orange (Q549449) is named after Principality of Orange (Q2281221) or Principality of Orange (Q2281221) is named after Prince of Orange (Q549449)? --- Jura 08:56, 25 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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