Wikidata talk:Wikiversity

Say a yup

The betawikiversity will be ignored when deploying, reason: Per oldwikisource. --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 10:25, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

Could you elaborate on the reason "Per oldwikisource" please? I'm not sure I understand what that means. I have no opposition to excluding beta: at this time, but might change my opinion depending on the outcome of Proposals for closing projects/Move Beta Wikiversity to Incubator. --Mu301 (talk) 18:10, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

@Mu301:

Tracked in Phabricator
Task T54971

--Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 23:55, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

Namespaces

Let's see how many namespaces will be included, and how many will be excluded.

Per WD:N, Talk: (includes "XXX talk:"), MediaWiki: , Special: (except Special:RecentChanges as per WD:N/IC), User: , File: are already excluded, so please do not ask me "Can you please include these?"

--Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 12:43, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

Perhaps you'll have more involvement in your conversation if you let someone know it's here. A year without any notice to the community seems a bit long. -- Dave Braunschweig (talk) 16:40, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

School

• Only  Support for the main School pages,  Oppose for subpages of em. --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 07:47, 7 March 2015 (UTC)

Why do you recommend opposing for subpages? -- Dave Braunschweig (talk) 16:38, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

@Dave Braunschweig: First, we have Wikidata:Arbitrary access, which means even if you don't link a page on Wikidata, the page can also query our statements. Then, are there any subpages under this namespace with more than one langauge versions? --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 02:46, 9 February 2016 (UTC)

It's very likely that there are some pages for teaching languages that support multiple languages. But a more important distinction is that Wikiversity is arranged by subpages. The School: namespace is not a content namespace, so it could be supported or not. But if it is supported, it needs to be supported consistently. -- Dave Braunschweig (talk) 16:30, 15 February 2016 (UTC)

Topic

 Comment Where's the differents between Wikiversity's and Flow's Topic? --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 10:09, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

Topic is an awkward combination of Portal: and Wikiproject:. It may be eliminated at some point to allow for Flow, but there's no stated agreement and much cleanup work to do before that can happen. -- Dave Braunschweig (talk) 16:36, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

Your comment doesn't help me anything, there's actually the namespace conflict here. Perpahs we can have items for these pages, but maybe consider renaming this namespace? --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 02:46, 9 February 2016 (UTC)

TLDR, there's a discussion about this issue on Talk:Flow. --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 02:51, 9 February 2016 (UTC)

Yes, Flow uses the Topic: namespace. That's why I indicated that "It may be eliminated at some point to allow for Flow, but there's no stated agreement and much cleanup work to do before that can happen." -- Dave Braunschweig (talk) 17:13, 15 February 2016 (UTC)

Collection

•  Comment A bit nervous, do we really need these pages, as there's a much better extension called Gather to do so. --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 07:50, 7 March 2015 (UTC)

We at Wikiversity really need these pages. They are books supporting various courses. They are created using the Create a book tool. -- Dave Braunschweig (talk) 16:38, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

Other comments

• Nice progress! :) Nemo 17:46, 24 February 2016 (UTC)

So when to deploy data access?

--Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 12:44, 18 March 2016 (UTC)

Wikidata:Project_chat#P31_values_for_Wikiversity_pages

Please see the above.
--- Jura 10:07, 26 March 2016 (UTC)

Wikidata:Interwiki conflicts/Unresolved/2016 then Ctrl+F "Wikiversity:Introduction"

Can anyone who active on WV reply it? --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 06:45, 26 December 2016 (UTC)

Scope and interwikis

I would like to discuss an activity of User:Bocardodarapti. He imports and creates a structure in Wikidata about numerous Wikiversity pages created for his own course (see contribs). I see a couple of problems here: 1) are those pages all notable for Wikidata? See e.g. v:de:Kategorie:Theorie der bestimmten Integrale and all its subcategories and leaves, esp. items like Q114345261, Q114766310, Q114769143 and hundreds (thousands?) similar. 2) his tendence of changing main category items to newly created items about particular "theories" (also arguable matter) like this change. Please discuss. Infovarius (talk) 20:35, 19 October 2022 (UTC)

Hello,

two short answers: ad 2) the last mentioned change follows the pattern/model of Q12479 (number theory) and Q7217289 (category:number theory) with the direct link via main category and subject of the category. The subject of the category number theory is number theory and not numbers. Numbers are studied by number theory. This seems to me a reasonable model for a mathematical theory/subfield.

ad 1) some statistics: the mathematical content (which is built up in a modular way) of the German wikiversity consists of roughly 3200 facts (same amount of proofs), 2400 definitions, 1200 examples, 500 remarks, 12 000 exercises (about 500 have an English version on the English Wikiversity, linked together by a Wikidata item), 3500 solutions. They are used in 20 mathematical courses at universities (covering bachelor degree and say the algebraic and geometric side of master degree) and are categorized in 1800 theories/subfields (to compare: the mathematical subject classification (MSC) has about 80 main entries, each has roughly about 10 letters and each letter has about 10 numbers, gives 8000. This classification is considered within themathematical community as quite rude, therefore one adds key words). My understanding of Wikidata is that it should provide a framework for organizing a science, and science is huge.

beside that, I am sure I do make mistakes. For background: I want to make an English version of one of my courses (where there are some 'international students') next year and for that I want to use the interwikilinks via Wikidata. That was the starting point of my work here. Bocardodarapti (talk) 09:06, 20 October 2022 (UTC)

So let's discuss mathematical side of the activity at Wikidata talk:WikiProject Mathematics. And here the main question is notability of all these items. --Infovarius (talk) 20:19, 20 October 2022 (UTC)