Property talk:P1047

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Catholic Hierarchy person ID
identifier for the person on catholic-hierarchy.org
DescriptionID of the person on the Catholic Hierarchy website
Applicable "stated in" valueCatholic-Hierarchy.org (Q3892772)
Data typeExternal identifier
Template parameter« ch » dans fr:Modèle:Infobox Prélat catholique
Domain
According to this template: personne
According to statements in the property:
human (Q5)
When possible, data should only be stored as statements
Allowed values[a-z_]{1,8}
ExamplePope Francis (Q450675) → bergj
Benedict XVI (Q2494) → ratz
Sourcewww.catholic-hierarchy.org (note: this information should be moved to a property statement; use property source website for the property (P1896))
Formatter URLhttps://www.catholic-hierarchy.org/bishop/b$1.html
Tracking: usageCategory:Pages using Wikidata property P1047 (Q20989987)
See alsoCatholic Hierarchy diocese ID (P1866)
Lists
Proposal discussionProposal discussion
Current uses
Total248,026
Main statement50,86520.5% of uses
Qualifier6<0.1% of uses
Reference197,15579.5% of uses
Search for values
[create Create a translatable help page (preferably in English) for this property to be included here]
Format “[a-z]{2,8}|”: value must be formatted using this pattern (PCRE syntax). (Help)
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1047#Format, hourly updated report, SPARQL
Distinct values: this property likely contains a value that is different from all other items. (Help)
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1047#Unique value, hourly updated report, SPARQL (every item), SPARQL (by value)
Single value: this property generally contains a single value. (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1047#Single value, SPARQL
Type “human (Q5)”: item must contain property “instance of (P31)” with classes “human (Q5)” or their subclasses (defined using subclass of (P279)). (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1047#Type Q5, SPARQL
Item “date of birth (P569)”: Items with this property should also have “date of birth (P569)”. (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1047#Item P569, SPARQL
Item “place of birth (P19)”: Items with this property should also have “place of birth (P19)”. (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1047#Item P19, search, SPARQL
Allowed entity types are Wikibase item (Q29934200): the property may only be used on a certain entity type (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1047#Entity types
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1047#Item P106, search
Scope is as main value (Q54828448), as reference (Q54828450): the property must be used by specified way only (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1047#Scope, SPARQL

Regex change[edit]

I clarified the regex. I am the creator of the website referenced in this property. Further note, in theory, the first letter of the key is the first letter of the last name. For those with no known last name the key will begin with the symbol "_".--Dcheney (talk) 22:42, 9 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Contraints[edit]

Good day, the "item requires statement constraint" that requires that the item has "bishop" or equivalent in position should also include subclass of Catholic bishop. See Q1691360 for example. Thank you, Amqui (talk) 13:57, 11 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

not only male humans[edit]

With https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q50359579 Catholic Hierarchy has an entry for female humans, to. So this constraint should be removed. (Q21192877 is another example.) --Looperz (talk) 14:58, 21 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Looperz! As long as there are only 3-4 exceptions, you can add a restriction. If there will be more (5, 6, 10, 100...), it’s worth talking about. Palotabarát (talk)
Hello Palotabarát! With Q92880389 we have exception number 4. And now I am really looking forward to number 5 for some reasons. 😉 --Looperz (talk) 11:10, 25 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Next exception: Q82307725 --Looperz (talk) 12:53, 19 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Next exception: Q42792208 --Looperz (talk) 22:34, 2 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Next exception: Q42792212 --Looperz (talk) 22:38, 2 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Next exception: Q123397518 --Looperz (talk) 23:17, 6 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Next exception: Q124445636 --Looperz (talk) 23:18, 6 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Next exception: Q65621775 --Looperz (talk) 23:22, 6 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Beeing a Bishop is not just an occupation[edit]

Beeing a Bishop is a position... You have to be nominated/selected/elected for. And afaik its was configured like this until somebody changed that in the constraints. Why ? --Looperz (talk) 11:15, 25 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Looperz: I agree about using bishop with position held (P39); values stored in occupation (P106) should progressively be moved there. I have edited the constraint. --Epìdosis 15:51, 25 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Epìdosis I disagree. A "position held" implies temporary, term-limited, or revocable office being held. A bishop is a bishop for eternity. "Occupation", while still inferior in terms of describing the eternal and lifelong vocation of a bishop, is more appropriate than the temporary "position held". occupation (P106) includes the labels "career, vocation, profession", and these are closer to the episcopate than would be "office held, job". Elizium23 (talk) 04:24, 23 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Generic values like bishop (Q29182) and Catholic bishop (Q611644) could potentially go under occupation (P106), but the values specifically referring to dioceses (e.g. bishop of Almeria (Q50364235) are surely to be values of position held (P39); classifying the generic values and the specific values under different properties could potentially cause troubles to queries, so I think that the solution of having all under P39 is probably still the best. Anyway, I think this discussion should probably happen in Wikidata talk:WikiProject Religions, in order to reach more users. --Epìdosis 08:13, 23 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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