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fruit color
color of the fruit of a plant species, hybrid, or cultivar

Represents	fruit color (Q115395119)
Data type	Item
Domain	plant (Q756), cultivar (Q4886), taxon (Q16521), fruit (Q1364) or fruit (Q3314483)
Example	Viburnum dentatum (Q4115036) → black (Q23445) Ilex opaca (Q2712730) → red (Q3142) Triodanis perfoliata subsp. biflora (Q24877343) → brown (Q47071) copper (Q2722041) Rosa pisocarpa var. pisocarpa (Q115185553) → purplish red (Q114001780) Bosc pear (Q894405) → russet (Q4100014)
See also	flower color (P2827)
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Current uses	Total 196 Main statement 190 96.9% of uses Qualifier 6 3.1% of uses
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Type “plant (Q756), cultivar (Q4886), taxon (Q16521), fruit (Q1364), fruit (Q3314483)”: item must contain property “instance of (P31)” with classes “plant (Q756), cultivar (Q4886), taxon (Q16521), fruit (Q1364), fruit (Q3314483)” or their subclasses (defined using subclass of (P279)). (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P11220#Type Q756, Q4886, Q16521, Q1364, Q3314483, SPARQL

Value type “color (Q1075)”: This property should use items as value that contain property “instance of (P31), subclass of (P279)”. On these, the value for instance of (P31), subclass of (P279) should be an item that uses subclass of (P279) with value color (Q1075) (or a subclass thereof). (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P11220#Value type Q1075, SPARQL

Scope is as main value (Q54828448): the property must be used by specified way only (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P11220#Scope, SPARQL

Allowed entity types are Wikibase item (Q29934200): the property may only be used on a certain entity type (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P11220#Entity types

Why not have the color in the item of the fruit?

@Emwille, Succu, The Erinaceous One, UWashPrincipalCataloger: The most straightforward way to store this information would be has fruit type (P4000) having this property essentially needs storing the information two times. Why do you prefer this modeling? ChristianKl ❪✉❫ 16:29, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

@Emwille, ChristianKl, The Erinaceous One, UWashPrincipalCataloger:: Beyond fruit color (Q115395119) we have ripe color (Q115413697) too. --Succu (talk) 22:25, 5 December 2022 (UTC)

There are likely all sorts of other aspects such as weight of the fruit that's also worth documenting. Using has fruit type (P4000) allows for storing all that information. ChristianKl ❪✉❫ 13:42, 6 December 2022 (UTC)

has fruit type (P4000) has a very specific meaning. Fruit type is used for whether a fruit is a berry, a drupe, a samara, a pome, or some other kind of fruit. See for example https://www.britannica.com/science/fruit-plant-reproductive-body, which has a table on the types of fruits. Color is not one of the categories or classes of fruits. UWashPrincipalCataloger (talk) 07:41, 7 December 2022 (UTC)

Also, most plants do not have a separate item for the fruit itself, so it is appropriate to use this property on the species of plant item in most cases. UWashPrincipalCataloger (talk) 07:42, 7 December 2022 (UTC)