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location of discovery
where the item was located when discovered

Description	place where the item was discovered. Distinct from site of astronomical discovery (P65).
Represents	discovery (Q12772819), location of discovery (Q1291195)
Data type	Item
Domain	archaeological artifacts, possibly also fossils, gems, and various other things (note: this should be moved to the property statements)
Allowed values	instances of physical location (Q17334923) (note: this should be moved to the property statements)
Example	Venus de Milo (Q151952) → Milos (Q203979) xenon (Q1106) → University College London (Q193196)
Tracking: usage	Category:Pages using Wikidata property P189 (Q21037779)
See also	work location (P937), location (P276), site of astronomical discovery (P65)
Lists	Items with the most statements of this property Count of items by number of statements (chart) Items with the most statements Items with the fewest statements Count of items by number of sitelinks (chart) Items with the most sitelinks Items with the most sitelinks, but no link to one Wikipedia (sample: Welsh Wikipedia, cywiki) Items with the fewest sitelinks Most linked wikis Items with the most identifier properties By value of property Most statements Fewest statements Most sitelinks Most linked wikis Total of sitelinks on items Most identifiers Fewest identifiers Items with no other statements Most recently created items Items with novalue claims Items with unknown value claims Usage history (total) Usage history (main statement) Chart by item creation date Database reports/Constraint violations/P189 Map Random list
Proposal discussion	Proposal discussion
Current uses	Total 34,604 Main statement 34,563 99.9% of uses Qualifier 36 0.1% of uses Reference 5 <0.1% of uses
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Value type “physical location (Q17334923), fictional location (Q3895768), geographic entity (Q27096213)”: This property should use items as value that contain property “instance of (P31)”. On these, the value for instance of (P31) should be an item that uses subclass of (P279) with value physical location (Q17334923), fictional location (Q3895768), geographic entity (Q27096213) (or a subclass thereof). (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P189#Value type Q17334923, Q3895768, Q27096213, SPARQL

This property is being used by: n:fr:Modèle:Topic cat de:Vorlage:Infobox Manuscript WD, de:Vorlage:Wikidata Infobox/core eu:Txantiloi:Artelan infotaula automatikoa, eu:Txantiloi:Lan infotaula automatikoa, eu:Txantiloi:Lan infotaula ca:Plantilla:Infotaula d'obra artística, ca:Plantilla:Infotaula document, ca:Plantilla:Infotaula eina gu:ઢાંચો:Wikidata Infobox, gu:ઢાંચો:Wikidata Infobox/core commons:Template:Wikidata Infobox/core cy:Nodyn:Wikidata Infobox es:Plantilla:Wikidata Infobox id:Templat:Wikidata infobox, id:Templat:Kotak info Wikidata/inti mw:Template:Wikidata Infobox/core mr:साचा:विकिडाटा माहितीचौकट/core, mr:साचा:विकिडेटा माहितीचौकट/core sa:फलकम्:Wikidata Infobox ur:سانچہ:خانہ معلومات ویکی ڈیٹا/کور, ur:سانچہ:Wikidata Infobox/core q:fr:Modèle:Wikidata Infobox/core kab:Talɣa:Infobox intellectual work ha:Template:Infobox intellectual work ast:Plantía:Ficha de documentu ta:வார்ப்புரு:Wikidata Infobox/core hi:साँचा:Wikidata Infobox/core sv:Mall:Wikidata Infobox/core s:zh:Template:Wikidata Infobox/core ckb:داڕێژە:Wikidata Infobox/core pt:Predefinição:Wikidata Infobox/core, pt:Predefinição:Info Wikidata nascimento ku:Şablon:Wikidata Infobox/core mnw:ထာမ်ပလိက်:Wikidata Infobox/core ig:Àtụ:Infobox intellectual work d:Template:Wikidata Infobox/core no:Mal:Wikidata Infobox/core s:ban:Mal:Wikidata Infobox/core ban:Mal:Wikidata Infobox/core lv:Veidne:Wikidata Infobox/core nl:Sjabloon:Coördinaten2 ary:موضيل:معلومات عنصر كيماوي, ary:موضيل:معلومات مركب كيماوي voy:shn:ထႅမ်းပလဵတ်ႉ:Wikidata Infobox s:hi:साँचा:Wikidata Infobox/core Please notify projects that use this property before big changes (renaming, deletion, merge with another property, etc.)

Merge?

should be merged with Property:P65? JAn Dudík (talk) 20:26, 3 March 2013 (UTC)

I noticed that it causes a conflict of labels, but I think they are really two different things. In this case, the property points to the place where the item itself was located. For an astronomical object, it points to observatory that found the item, and clearly the item itself was not located there. --Zolo (talk) 20:31, 3 March 2013 (UTC)

I made the description more specific. The problem is that discovery is an act which can occur in a different location to the thing which was discovered. Danrok (talk) 21:10, 3 March 2013 (UTC)

roman city

This property is used for small items. Can I use it for example in Q23048 (roman city that became cologne, germany) to connect the roman city to Cologne too? --Molarus 10:55, 19 November 2014 (UTC)

I do not see anything wrong with using this property for large things, but I do not really see what the discovery place of a city means. A city do not move, so it has to be discovered at the place where it was located. Using coordinate location (P625), P766 (P766) etc. sounds more relevant to me. --Zolo (talk) 06:48, 20 November 2014 (UTC)

p625 would be OK, but P766 (event location)? Another example Q22647. Troja (3000 BCE) (p131) is in the administrative territorial entity of a province of Turkey. How strange is that? And Troja was really discovered. Some things of Troja are now located somewhere else, which is true for some parts of Q23048 too. What would be suitable is a new propety like <was located near><item>. At least I will stop using this property at the moment. So far I inserted it in Q23048, Q1027384, Q1046167 and Q1146198. --Molarus 12:57, 20 November 2014 (UTC)