Property talk:P2889
Documentation
ID of a person on FamilySearch
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P2889#Single value, SPARQL
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P2889#Unique value, SPARQL (every item), SPARQL (by value)
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P2889#Format, SPARQL
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P2889#Item P21, search, SPARQL
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P2889#Entity types
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P2889#Scope, SPARQL
Statistics
[edit]P2889 on values
[edit]Property | Values with P2889 | Values without P2889 | %without | ref |
---|---|---|---|---|
father (P22) | 3966 | 3645 | 47.9 | w wo |
mother (P25) | 1772 | 3120 | 63.8 | w wo |
child (P40) | 6386 | fail to parse Wikidata:Statistics/count/P2889/P40without | Expression error: Unrecognized word "fail". | w wo |
spouse (P26) ⇔ | 6073 | 5074 | 45.5 | w wo symmetric |
sibling (P3373) | create_w create_wo | |||
relative (P1038) | create_w create_wo |
See also: Wikidata:WikiProject_Genealogy#Identifiers on values
Discussion
[edit]Landing page for people not registered
[edit]- The trouble with making that the default landing page is that there then seems to be no way to get to the detailed editing page, whether one is logged in or not.
- I have therefore switched the preferred URL formatter back to
https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/$1
, which is now what queries pick up. Eventually the links from items will also update, though the change may take time to propagate through. Jheald (talk) 18:45, 3 March 2021 (UTC)- I’m not sure what how the behavior changes over time but currently,
https://ancestors.familysearch.org/en/$1
seems to be publicly displayable, whilehttps://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/$1
redirects to a login page. (Example links: publicly available ancestors, login-required www) So… should I change the URL formatter tohttps://ancestors.familysearch.org/en/$1
? --Mormegil (talk) 12:54, 24 January 2022 (UTC)- @Mormegil: Normally I'd support linking to a publicly-dispayable, no-login-required page for a property ID; but in this case Weak oppose to such a change. The displayable page is quite shiny, but as editors here it's the detailed page we really want -- with the details and links to the sources used, and with easy navigation around the family tree; rather than a page telling us who might have been President of the United States at that time.
- I'd be okay going for the latter no-login page if it was easy to get from it to the detailed page (eg automatically, by logging in). But FamilySearch don't seem to have set things up that way. It actually is possible to get from the no-login page to the detail page, but you do have to go quite a long way round the houses: if from the no-login page you click on the link for a relative, that pops up a login screen, and then once logged in takes you to the detail page for the relative, from which you can get to the detail page for the person you actually wanted.
- If you had to pay for an FS login, then I'd say point the URL formatter to the no-login page. But as FS has always been free (at least in money), it doesn't seem so harmful for the URL formatter to point to the with-login detail page, which (at least in my experience) is so much more useful. But let's ping the genealogy project and see if more people have views. Jheald (talk) 14:28, 29 January 2022 (UTC)
- I’m not sure what how the behavior changes over time but currently,
- Notified participants of WikiProject Genealogy -- Jheald (talk) 14:29, 29 January 2022 (UTC)
/* Where can I find? */
[edit]I cannot find the resulting data on the personal pages. MZ/X (talk) 16:20, 5 December 2021 (UTC)
- @Jzana: I'm not sure I understand. Can you give an example of a page you are interested in, what you are hoping to see, and what you are actually seeing? Jheald (talk) 14:31, 29 January 2022 (UTC)
- MZ/X is my pen name. This name cam from a cartoon published in Hungary. MZ/X (talk) 15:23, 10 December 2022 (UTC)
Deleting this property
[edit]Websites that can only be used after prior registration should not be a property. I would be in favour of deleting this property. --HarryNº2 (talk) 14:51, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
Ancestor version of the landing page
[edit]I reverted the change to the "ancestor" version of the landing page that does not require login to view. Two years ago it was decided not to change it. Serious researchers want the page with all the references and documents and images, and currently switching from the new ancestor-page to the old version gives an error message. I would not be against the move if there was no error message. The new "ancestor" landing page doesn't give much more info than we already provide at Wikidata. The page that requires login is rich in detail.
Notified participants of WikiProject Genealogy RAN (talk) 20:54, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
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