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Theatrum ID
identifier for an ancient theatre or odeon on the theatrum.de website

Applicable "stated in" value	Theatrum (Q109521704)
Data type	External identifier
Domain	Greek theatre (Q2860319), Roman theatre (Q19757) or odeon (Q1143046)
Allowed values	[^\s/]+
Example	Roman Theatre of Orangis (Q958961) → 121 Ancient theatre of Taormina (Q747484) → 1212 Roman theater at Mainz (Q454527) → mainz
Source	http://theatrum.de/
Formatter URL	http://theatrum.de/$1.html
Tracking: usage	Category:Pages using Wikidata property P5634 (Q56114024)
See also	Amphi-Theatrum ID (P5633), Atlas Project of Roman Aqueducts ID (P10053)
Lists	Items with the most statements of this property Count of items by number of statements (chart) Items with the most statements Items with the fewest statements Count of items by number of sitelinks (chart) Items with the most sitelinks Items with the most sitelinks, but no link to one Wikipedia (sample: Welsh Wikipedia, cywiki) Items with the fewest sitelinks Most linked wikis Items with the most identifier properties Items with no other external identifier Items with no other statements Most recently created items Items with novalue claims Items with unknown value claims Usage history (total) Usage history (main statement) Chart by item creation date Database reports/Constraint violations/P5634 Map Random list
Proposal discussion	Proposal discussion
Current uses	Total 289 Main statement 286 99% of uses Qualifier 3 1% of uses
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Format “[^\s/]+”: value must be formatted using this pattern (PCRE syntax). (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P5634#Format, SPARQL

Single value: this property generally contains a single value. (Help)

List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P5634#Single value, hourly updated report, SPARQL

Distinct values: this property likely contains a value that is different from all other items. (Help)

List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P5634#Unique value, hourly updated report, SPARQL (every item), SPARQL (by value)

Type “Greek theatre (Q2860319), Roman theatre (Q19757), odeon (Q1143046)”: item must contain property “instance of (P31)” with classes “Greek theatre (Q2860319), Roman theatre (Q19757), odeon (Q1143046)” or their subclasses (defined using subclass of (P279)). (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P5634#Type Q2860319, Q19757, Q1143046, SPARQL

Item “instance of (P31)”: Items with this property should also have “instance of (P31)”. (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P5634#Item P31, search, SPARQL

Allowed entity types are Wikibase item (Q29934200): the property may only be used on a certain entity type (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P5634#Entity types

Scope is as main value (Q54828448), as reference (Q54828450): the property must be used by specified way only (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P5634#Scope, SPARQL

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Scope of the property

Hi @AndreasPraefcke, Pigsonthewing, ديفيد عادل وهبة خليل 2: this property was originally approved for theathers and odeons, but the database of theatrum.de seems to go beyond that and includes a lot of thing relative to the ancient world, from mythologial figures (like Oedipus) to autors (like Carcinus the Elder) and concepts (like neocorate) : here is the full list. Would you agree to widen the scope of the property and get ride of the P31 values constraint ? Also pinging people from

Epìdosis B20180 Geraki Azertus Alexander Doria Shisma Sp!ros Xena the Rebel Girl Alexmar983 DerHexer Lykos EncycloPetey Jahl de Vautban JBradyK Mathieu Kappler Ahc84 Liber008 JASHough User:Tolanor User:Jonathan Groß

Notified participants of WikiProject Ancient Greece and

Jura
Epìdosis
B20180
llywrch
Jahl de Vautban
Alexmar983
StarTrekker
Mathieu Kappler
Tolanor
JASHough
Darellur
Ahc84
Liber008
User:Jonathan Groß
User:Luca.favorido

Notified participants of WikiProject Ancient Rome. --Jahl de Vautban (talk) 15:55, 28 May 2022 (UTC)

 Support (also for Amphi-Theatrum ID (P5633), if the same is true). --Epìdosis 16:02, 28 May 2022 (UTC)

I would add everything what's possible. Marcus Cyron (talk) 18:37, 28 May 2022 (UTC)

 Support For indentifier properties it makes more sense to add more domains to an existing one than to make new properties. Also I would prefer the mentioned constraint was widened rather than removed, assuming the list doesn't get too big. It would be appreciated if you could help by providing a list of preliminary candidates. Infrastruktur (talk) 20:00, 28 May 2022 (UTC)

@Infrastruktur: most will be human (Q5), then architectural structure (Q811979); a few more are scattered among position (Q4164871), profession (Q28640) festival (Q132241), literary genre (Q223393), inscription (Q1640824) ; there are probably some I didn't catch or don't know (like neocorus (Q6992621)). --Jahl de Vautban (talk) 11:54, 31 May 2022 (UTC)