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Cistercian Biography Online ID
identifier for entries in the online database "cistercian biographie online" www.zisterzienserlexikon.de

Applicable "stated in" value	Dictionary of Cistercian Biography Online (Q96749131)
Data type	External identifier
Domain	human (Q5), religious building (Q24398318) or Wikimedia list article (Q13406463)
Allowed values	\d+
Example	Teobaldo Cesari (Q16007496) → 91 Gottschalk von Heiligenkreuz (Q1540014) → 1599 Zwettl Abbey (Q691787) → 3454
Source	http://www.zisterzienserlexikon.de/
Formatter URL	http://www.zisterzienserlexikon.de/wiki/index.php?curid=$1
See also	Biographia Benedictina ID (P9455)
Lists	Items with the most statements of this property Count of items by number of statements (chart) Items with the most statements Items with the fewest statements Count of items by number of sitelinks (chart) Items with the most sitelinks Items with the most sitelinks, but no link to one Wikipedia (sample: Welsh Wikipedia, cywiki) Items with the fewest sitelinks Most linked wikis Items with the most identifier properties Items with no other external identifier Items with no other statements Most recently created items Items with novalue claims Items with unknown value claims Usage history (total) Usage history (main statement) Chart by item creation date Map of people by place values: place of birth educated at work location residence place of death place of burial January 1st dates People with date of birth on January 1 People with date of death on January 1 People with both dates on January 1 Mix'n'match (Report) Database reports/Complex constraint violations/P8441 Database reports/Constraint violations/P8441 Map Random list
Proposal discussion	Proposal discussion
Current uses	Total 994 Main statement 851 out of 1,945 (44% complete) 85.6% of uses Qualifier 3 0.3% of uses Reference 140 14.1% of uses
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Format “\d+”: value must be formatted using this pattern (PCRE syntax). (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P8441#Format, SPARQL

Distinct values: this property likely contains a value that is different from all other items. (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P8441#Unique value, SPARQL (every item), SPARQL (by value)

Single value: this property generally contains a single value. (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P8441#Single value, SPARQL

Type “human (Q5), religious building (Q24398318), Wikimedia list article (Q13406463)”: item must contain property “instance of (P31), subclass of (P279)” with classes “human (Q5), religious building (Q24398318), Wikimedia list article (Q13406463)” or their subclasses (defined using subclass of (P279)). (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P8441#Type Q5, Q24398318, Q13406463, SPARQL

Allowed entity types are Wikibase item (Q29934200): the property may only be used on a certain entity type (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P8441#Entity types

Scope is as main value (Q54828448), as reference (Q54828450): the property must be used by specified way only (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P8441#Scope, SPARQL

Quick check
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Violations query: SELECT ?item { ?item wdt:P8441 []; wdt:P31 wd:Q5. FILTER NOT EXISTS { ?item wdt:P611 [] } MINUS { ?item wdt:P106 [] } MINUS { ?item wdt:P39 [] } MINUS { ?item wdt:P140 [] } MINUS { ?item wdt:P8440 [] } MINUS { ?item wdt:P1635 [] } FILTER NOT EXISTS { ?item wdt:P20/wdt:P31 wd:Q160742 } # -1 }
List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Complex constraint violations/P8441#Quick check

Constraint “religious order (P611): Cistercians (Q166861)”.

@Pamputt: thanks for creating this property. i am worried about item-requires-statement constraint (Q21503247) religious order (P611) Cistercians (Q166861). for all the humans in the biographia cisterciens it is a real good idea to model this constraint, but for all the other items (abbeys, list of abbots etc) it isn't such useful. is it possible to model that such a constraint is only valid for items which are instances of a certain class? e.g. this constraint should only valid for P31/Q5. Otherwise i would prefer to remove the constraint. --Mfchris84 (talk) 18:23, 17 July 2020 (UTC)

Additional notice: There are not only 'classical' cistercians described in the database, also Order of Cistercians of the Strict Observance (Q276223) eg. Pierre-Joseph Cassant (Q3291949), so i am more and more convinced to remove this constraint. --Mfchris84 (talk) 18:32, 17 July 2020 (UTC)

Instead of the item constraint it is better to watch this query for humans with P8441 without P611:

SELECT ?item ?itemLabel ?cistID WHERE {
  ?item wdt:P8441 ?cistID;
    wdt:P31 wd:Q5.
  FILTER(NOT EXISTS { ?item wdt:P611 ?order. })
  SERVICE wikibase:label { bd:serviceParam wikibase:language "[AUTO_LANGUAGE],en". }
}

Try it!

@Mfchris84: yes, you are right. Good that you removed this constrain. Pamputt (talk) 19:55, 17 July 2020 (UTC)