Property talk:P8687
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number of subscribers on a particular social media website (use as main statement only; see P3744 instead for qualifier). Qualify with "point in time" and property for account. For Twitter, use numeric id.
Data type | Quantity | ||||||||||||
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Allowed values | According to this template:
integers >1000. Generally, one value per media and calendar year, not more than one per quarter.
According to statements in the property:
When possible, data should only be stored as statements0 ≤ 𝓧 ≤ 1,000,000,000 | ||||||||||||
Allowed units | not applicable | ||||||||||||
Usage notes | Qualify with "point in time" and property for account. For Twitter, use numeric id. | ||||||||||||
Example | Cristiano Ronaldo (Q11571) → 201,000,000 Magnus Manske (Q13520818) → 1,640 | ||||||||||||
See also | number of subscribers (P3744) | ||||||||||||
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Proposal discussion | Proposal discussion | ||||||||||||
Current uses |
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List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P8687#Entity types
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P8687#mandatory qualifier, SPARQL
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P8687#Scope, SPARQL
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P8687#allowed qualifiers, SPARQL
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P8687#Range
This property is being used by: Please notify projects that use this property before big changes (renaming, deletion, merge with another property, etc.) |
query currently excludes Twitter (Help)
Violations query:
SELECT ?item ?st ?prop ?qualv WITH { SELECT * { hint:Query hint:optimizer "None". ?item p:P8687 ?st . ?st ?qual ?qualv . FILTER( ?qual != pq:P585 ) FILTER( ?qual != pq:P6552 ) ?prop wikibase:qualifier ?qual . ?prop wikibase:claim ?p . ?prop wikibase:statementProperty ?ps . MINUS { ?item ?p ?a . ?a ?ps ?qualv } } } as %all WHERE { INCLUDE %all FILTER( datatype(?qualv) = xsd:string ) }
List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Complex constraint violations/P8687#qualifier for identifier should also be available as statement
retrieved (P813) is unsuitable as a qualifier[edit]
There seems to have been an addition some time ago, but this isn't actually needed. point in time (P585) should be used to indicate the date of the follower count. --- Jura 09:45, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
- retrieved (P813) and point in time (P585) don't exclude each other.
- The retrieved (P813) date is as relevant here as anywhere else, especially for archived data.- Coagulans (talk) 10:29, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
- So let's do like (almost) anywhere else and not add it as qualifier. --- Jura 12:00, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
use as main statement[edit]
This was proposed as a property for main statement, see Wikidata:Property_proposal/social_media_followers. I don't see any consensus to change this. We came up with the approach after going through two other approaches. --- Jura 06:40, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
- Moved them back to number of subscribers (P3744) as qualifier. Eventually these should be converted (if not deleted, given that the bot may have already added the info). --- Jura 19:15, 8 January 2022 (UTC)
units[edit]
There are a bunch of constraint violations at Wikidata:Database_reports/Constraint_violations/P8687#"Units"_violations making it different to query and compare wdt:P8687 values. I will look into cleaning these up. --- Jura 10:43, 13 April 2021 (UTC)
- While fixing some of them, I noticed they were using them in an unpredictable way: [1] [2] --- Jura 10:57, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
- Cleaned them out. --- Jura 19:15, 8 January 2022 (UTC)
values lacking point in time (P585) qualifier[edit]
SELECT ?item ?itemLabel ?value
WHERE
{
hint:Query hint:optimizer "None".
?statement ps:P8687 ?value
MINUS { ?statement pq:P585 [] }
?item p:P8687 ?statement .
SERVICE wikibase:label { bd:serviceParam wikibase:language "[AUTO_LANGUAGE],en". }
}
The above finds some. These still need to be fixed/cleaned up. --- Jura 19:15, 8 January 2022 (UTC)
Qualifier value for identifier should also be a main statement value[edit]
There are a few items that lack that (sample). I added a complex constraint to monitor it. One for Twitter is still todo. --- Jura 15:05, 10 January 2022 (UTC)
Village pump discussion on why this property was a terrible idea[edit]
See Wikidata:Project chat#social media followers (P8687) was a terrible idea. {{u|Sdkb}} talk 00:59, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
- Discussion is now archived, see: Wikidata:Project_chat/Archive/2022/03#social media followers (P8687) was a terrible idea. --UliSchukraft (talk) 18:30, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
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