Talk:Q116912358

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Autodescription — refers to lexicographic entity (Q116912358)

description: conflation of an item with a word or words used for said item in one or more languages; statement may be better associated with the corresponding lexeme
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Clarification[edit]

Instance of[edit]

Many items in Wikidata hav been created to represent the articles found in Wikipedia. AsWikidata is supposed to be language-independent, storing facts found in or relatdto said articles, it followsthtat the labels chosen for those items are those usedfor the ikipedia article in multiple, different languages.While those labels may themselves be described in the Wikipedia articles those descriptions are not meant to be represented in their Wikidata items.

" Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic" was (in 1922-1991) the official name of the political entity hat may today be better known as "Russia". Russia i however a country, it's not a name or a word. "Russia" (the string of six letters, mixed case, from the latinalphabetis a name andtherefore also a word (in English) for that country.Beware not to confuse the properties of the name with the propertiesof the country. For one thing, how many letters are there in Russia? If we try to answer that question literally, we must take into account every single written (including the printed just like the hand-written ones) document locatedon Russian trritory, count the number of letters in each, addingthem all up, and we may arrive at several billion letters. Yet,there are only six (6) letters in the name "Russia".

A cratonym is not a particular type of country, it's a prticular type of name for a country, one that focuses on or gives an idea of what the political constitution of the named country is (or is claimed to be, sometimes in contrast to observable facts). Therefore it's incorrect to state that the country is aninstance of cratonym If that statement isto be associated with anything in Wikidata it's the lexeme that represents this name. And the lexeme is distinct from the item it represents.The lexeme, or rather one ofits senses if there are svera, is thelexicographic entity referred toin this reason for deprecation.

Many specialized concepts are known to scholars versed in thos fields astermz, i.e. words or brief expressions of their respective fields. Strictly speaking, ny word for anything is a term even if we don't usually callthem so. Therefore declaringa particular vegetable a term is just as wrong as declaring a country a name or a cratonym.

Language of work or name[edit]

like with the iscussion of "cratonym" above few physical items have a particular language associated with them. Instead, the word usedto denotesuch an item blongs to a language. However since every lexeme is inherently assciated with a language, here is normal no need tomove this statement from the item to the lexeme, it can simply be removed from the item once it has been verified that the corresponding lexeme exists in the correct language. SM5POR (talk) 13:46, 6 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]