Talk:Q17362920

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Autodescription — Wikimedia duplicated page (Q17362920)

description: this item duplicates another item, it can be merged once the necessary merges are done in other Wikimedia projects
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Qualifier for P31|this item[edit]

Currently, appr. 90%+ of instance of (P31)Wikimedia duplicated page (Q17362920) statements are having of (P642) as qualifier, but per WD:P642, that qualifier property is considered harmful, and being deprecated, do we have ideas, perhaps by bot, that which alternative qualifier can be used to replace such P642 usages? Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 10:19, 24 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Editors of this item: @Zolo, GZWDer, Succu, infovarius, WTM, Erik Wannee:@Edjoerv, Michiel1972, Jssfrk, Matěj Suchánek, Dr Zimbu, Qllach:@Pablo Busatto, Andreasmperu, 本日晴天, Máté, Karol Szapsza, Srittau:@Hibm98, Hummingbird, Hede2000, Zenfiric, Steenth, Rachmat04:@Mormegil, Epìdosis, Azertus, SR5, Edgars2007, Tojdor:@Pizza1016, RodrigoTavares, Wostr, Avilena, Taravyvan Adijene, Romulanus:@Toghrul R, Artsiom91, Xorasan, GalyukMM, Gorkaazk, TiberiuFr25:@Rizorius, Fierodelveneto, ギャラクシーライナー, Gymnicus, Ksoew, TadejM: (removed LTAs and their sockpuppets, if you think pinging you isn't appropriate, just remove yourself) --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 10:29, 24 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Well, we have permanent duplicated item (P2959) but there the accent is on permanent (so this corresponds to Wikimedia permanent duplicate item (Q21286738) instead). So, I’d say said to be the same as (P460) might be used? (Even though Wikimedia duplicated page (Q17362920)Wikidata property (P1687)said to be the same as (P460) is deprecated…) --Mormegil (talk) 10:36, 24 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Gut response is we should just create the parallel "duplicated item" property. Agreed that use of of (P642) here should be removed. Alternatively, permanent duplicated item (P2959) could be renamed to "duplicated item", since every duplicate can be "permanent" until it isn't anymore ;-) --Azertus (talk) 15:31, 9 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I oppose to removing qualifiers from instance of (P31)Wikimedia duplicated page (Q17362920) statements because an item is not Q17362920 itself but only in a relation to some other item. I am ok with P642, but if you want to remove it, instead replace it with some other property. But why? --Infovarius (talk) 19:10, 11 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]