Talk:Q192287

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description: common article for both administrative and municipal divisions, and also military, economic and federal districts
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administrative territorial entity of Russia⟩ on wikidata tree visualisation (external tool)(depth=1)
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Hi, instance of (P31) administrative territorial entity of Russia (Q192287) should not be used on items such as Osinniki (Q176753) but only on items describing a type of (administrative) division. Michiel1972 (talk) 20:17, 5 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

User:Michiel1972 - I added it because the object had an OKATO ID (P721) "code that identifies every administrative unit in Russia". Show evidence for your claim. Tamawashi (talk) 20:22, 5 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
It is just the way all subclasses of administrative territorial entity of a single country (Q15916867) are used: to identify for each country the types of administrative units. Thus not spamming all the instances within a country with an incorrect claim. Moscow, Novosibirsk, etc are not instances of this item. Michiel1972 (talk) 20:31, 5 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
User:Michiel1972 - That is not how subclass of works. But of course you are free to add a more specific value. Your revert edits removed the items in question from the tree for Russia (administrative territorial entity of Russia (Q192287)), in fact even from administrative territorial entity of a single country (Q15916867), while my edits added them. Tamawashi (talk) 20:49, 5 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Oh man..you made a terrible mess of https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/Q15916867 I give up, someone else may clean up all the instances you spammed with these claims. A city or village is NOT an administrative division itself, but belongs to a certain TYPE of division. Michiel1972 (talk) 21:00, 5 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Yes... It's a mess now... @Tamawashi:, one should not tag individual entities as administrative territorial entity of a single country (Q15916867), but only types. Infovarius (talk) 21:03, 5 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Infovarius - Your statement makes no sense. Show that the entities do not belong into that tree. Tamawashi (talk) 21:19, 5 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

As far as I can see it, the edits of Tamawashi are not wrong, but normally we try to add the most specific values, e.g. selsoviet of Russia (Q15982377) or municipal district (Q2198484) (which is btw a subclass of its own list). If someone could figure out how to extract the type of administrative unit from OKATO ID (P721), I could run a bot similar to PLbot 6. --Pasleim (talk) 21:08, 5 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Pasleim - I don't know how the OKATO id is build. Nice to see you are able to run a bot. Tamawashi (talk) 21:19, 5 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I agree that edits are not wrong but not ideal too. May be I'll help to exactify classes of the units later. Infovarius (talk) 12:25, 12 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]