Talk:Q19285503

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@Kolja21: the firstnames of the fathers differ, otherwise looks like they are the same.

http://d-nb.info/gnd/116499273 - 116... typical DtBio or Kalliope ID and at https://www.deutsche-biographie.de/pnd116499273.html it says born Vaduz, Schriftstellerin

Person	Rheinberger, Hermine
Geschlecht	weiblich
Zeit	Wirkungsdaten: 1891
Land	Deutschland (XA-DE)
Weitere Angaben	Tochter von David Rheinberger

http://d-nb.info/gnd/1196628823

Person	Rheinberger, Hermine
Geschlecht	weiblich
Quelle	Wikipedia (Stand: 08.10.2019): https://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hermine_Rheinberger&oldid=182865574
Zeit	Lebensdaten: 1864-1932
Land	Liechtenstein (XA-LI)
Geografischer Bezug	Geburtsort: Vaduz
Sterbeort: Mils
Beruf(e)	Schriftstellerin
Weitere Angaben	Tochter von Peter Rheinberger

MrProperLawAndOrder (talk) 23:38, 9 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

✓ OK We checked this already, see de:Wikipedia:GND/Fehlermeldung/September 2018. The result was: Two different persons. --Kolja21 (talk) 00:21, 10 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@MrProperLawAndOrder: I see: DNB has created a new GND for the writer - since they think the two women are different persons - while DtBio has linked the data sheet of the writer (sfzR3427-4) to the older GND 116499273 that already existed. That shouldn't happen ;( --Kolja21 (talk) 00:35, 10 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Who created 119? Maybe the creator wasn't aware of the other item, there are hundreds of cases where duplicates were created in GND. Kalliope 116 has:
https://kalliope-verbund.info/de/query?q=ead.creator.gnd%3D%3D%22116499273%22 
Brief von Hermine Rheinberger an Joseph Rheinberger
Rheinberger, Hermine [Verfasser], Rheinberger, Joseph (1839-1901) [Adressat]
Vaduz, 17.03.1891 [17.03.1891]. - 1 Br.
Q365555 composer born and buried in Vaduz. If it wouldn't be David/Peter then there would be no contradiction. Where is the proof for these fathernames?
https://historisches-lexikon.li/Rheinberger,_Hermine also links to 116 at the bottom of the page.
David, Peter, Josef are brothers. Peter as father in histlex LI. Talk:Q96187795#Genealogy
Current status of research: David in 116 is wrong, but 119 is a duplicate.
MrProperLawAndOrder (talk) 01:28, 10 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

1196628823

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Currently at http://viaf.org/viaf/15331580/#Rheinberger,_Hermine , added after WKP and pushing out 116

WKP|Q19285503	add	2019-05-29T17:29:46.219872+00:00
DNB|1196628823	add	2019-10-13T12:33:44.010083+00:00
DNB|116499273	delete	2019-10-13T13:29:37.379869+00:00

http://viaf.org/processed/DNB%7C1196628823

035			‎‡a  (DE-101)1196628823‏
035			‎‡a  (DE-588)1196628823
042			‎‡a  gnd3

https://sigel.staatsbibliothek-berlin.de/suche/?isil=DE-588 maybe it was created by WKP (dewiki) and later edited by 588. MrProperLawAndOrder (talk) 02:20, 10 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]