Talk:Q24571879
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Autodescription — by name (Q24571879)
description: class of Wikimedia categories and meta category criterion 'by name'; categories containing entities of same class; usualy such category don't have subcategories
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- Report on constraint conformation of “by name” claims and statements. Constraints report for items data
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- Parent classes (classes of items which contain this one item)
- by name (Q24571879)
- Subclasses (classes which contain special kinds of items of this class)
- ⟨
by name⟩ on wikidata tree visualisation (external tool)(depth=1) - Generic queries for classes
- See also
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{{Item documentation}}.
Now by name (Q24571879) is Wikimedia category (Q4167836) is list (Q12139612), ..., physical object (Q223557). --Fractaler (talk) 15:52, 23 December 2017 (UTC)
- Not for now exactly, because electronic page (Q5358404), Wikimedia category (Q4167836) was before subclass of (P279).... : ...physical object (Q223557) and it was not correct before, afaik.--Avatar6 (talk) 18:49, 23 December 2017 (UTC)
- The problem is in electronic page (Q5358404) that 'trees' to manifestation (Q286583) that can be OR can't be phisical substance.
- electronic media (Q1209283) vs media (Q340169) exactly. First is mandatory of second as second can be, or can't be phisical substance.--Avatar6 (talk) 19:10, 23 December 2017 (UTC)
- @Fractaler: think that electronic media (Q1209283) and media (Q340169) should be splitted or otherwise differed (linked) to virtual ... and physical ... That is solvation.--Avatar6 (talk) 19:26, 23 December 2017 (UTC)
- by name (Q24571879) is (Category:Categories by parameter (Q6398257)) "Category by parameter" (Wikimedia meta category (Q30432511)?), has property (P2306) alphabetical order (Q10925) --Fractaler (talk) 07:22, 26 December 2017 (UTC)
Change of scope
[edit]@Avatar6: actually this item was used as category combines topics (P971) and was not a subclass of categories. Why do you decide otherwise? --Infovarius (talk) 20:54, 23 December 2017 (UTC)
- Yes, I knewed that. 1. Actualy most of alphabetical categories are not meta category (category-container), only such that named 'Categories of ___ by name' (as such that categorises categories). 2. category combines topics (P971) is not much clearly human-friendly description of category using as instance of (P31) for is. 3. the main property for alphabetical category (criterium for transclusion) is instance of (P31) and it could be used for autopollution of alphabetical categories in many MW ways. 4. I think '(méta)category criterions' would be used not only by the category combines topics (P971), at current state of things, but for clasification and maintenance of WM categories. I've described changes at Item documentations.--Avatar6 (talk) 04:37, 24 December 2017 (UTC)
- Ok, sounds reasonable. --Infovarius (talk) 13:31, 25 December 2017 (UTC)