Talk:Q37463

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Ref or not ref

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Propose removing the spouse relationship due to lack of references. c.f. https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q57839788&oldid=1437859209 Azaroth42 (talk)

Not Marie Curie (Q7186)? :) --Infovarius (talk) 15:00, 10 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Please Azaroth42, let's be serious, will you. Can you tell me if I am married or not? Obviously not, because I'm just a nickname. Your nickname does not guarantee that you are that person. On the other hand, if I speak to you about Adam, you answer me Eve. If I speak to you about George W. Bush, you answer Laura Bush. There is evidence that we do not need to specify. On Wikidata, there are properties that require a reference with the values. Thank you for your understanding. —Eihel (talk) 15:33, 10 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
So because -you- don't know that I'm married, I have to prove it to you and because I didn't, you just went ahead and deleted the entry that I made about myself. But because you do know that Marie Curie was married to Pierre Curie, that's sufficient for you to say that it doesn't need proof at all? So no, I don't understand, because this is clearly a double standard with no objective or quantifiable way to know what needs proof and what doesn't for the same property. Azaroth42 (talk)
Hello Azaroth42 Hello, To talk to me, you can notify me, because I can't be everywhere at once. Some contributors add value to spouse without proof knowing full well that it is wrong (and I'm not saying you do). On my first fix, you weren't in the Autoconfirmed group and you appeared in WDPD. So I corrected so that there are no more constraint violations. This information is not only found in WD, but it also affects Wikipedia, for example, and therefore affects IRL. This information is sensitive; there are even sensitive properties classified as such. I wrote to you that this property required a reference, it is registered in the constraints. It also allows you to improve yourself, don't see it as malicious. Now, in the above cases, if the references are missing, I will not take away the value, as it is embedded in popular culture. Leaving this value on Marie Curie is common sense and not the use of "2 weights, 2 measures". However, if you find this information somewhere without a reference, you can add it, as this constraint is the standard. Cordially. —Eihel (talk) 09:57, 11 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Azaroth, unsourced statement is suboptimal for both Wikipedia and Wikidata. If someone challenge it, the other should provide the source (tertiary, without conflict of interest and so on) or remove the statement. I have added the source for your request here. It's your turn to add it there. --Infovarius (talk) 20:26, 14 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]