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Autodescription — amidines (Q423088)
description: derivatives of oxoacids RnE(=O)OH in which the hydroxy group is replaced by an amino group and the oxo group is replaced by =NR
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It has to be checked whether it is possible for an inorganic amidine to exist. As formamidine is the simplest carboxamidine, maybe there is a possibility for such simple amidines derived from other oxoacids and thus inorganic. Wostr (talk) 23:58, 30 June 2021 (UTC) ChEBI thinks that this class is not entirely organic and there are, at least theoretically, examples of inorganic compounds like [1], [2] or [3]. It needs to be further investigated. As a counter-argument: IUPAC definition states that the parent oxoacid general formula is RnE(=O)OH — it is not known if n can be 0 or if R means any organic substituent or just any substituent. Wostr (talk) 00:16, 1 July 2021 (UTC)
- I don't think that's ambiguous: clearly R doesn't have to be organic, because otherwise formamidine (R = H) wouldn't meet the definition!
- It looks like we already have carboxamidine (Q103856106) specific to carbamidines, so a simple fix would be to use this item for general amidines. This is similar to how we have separate items for carboxamides (Q355679) and amides (Q188777). 73.223.72.200 04:41, 9 October 2023 (UTC)