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description: free multilingual online encyclopedia
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Owner[edit]

I juste removed "owner: Wikimedia Foundation". Does the Foundation own Wikipedia ? I would say, just the logo. --Zolo (talk) 17:49, 8 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Other languages[edit]

It seems that other languages' names for Wikipedia are being put as English aliases. I don't think that's correct. For example, ويكيبيديا should show up in the Arabic view, not in English. This is going to take some cleaning up. I did remove some clearly incorrect ones. For example, the Wikipedia tagline is not a name for Wikipedia, and I don't think we need the odd misspellings. Superm401 (talk) 03:55, 1 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

This page is crashed in my computer[edit]

My Firefox have a little crash when I open this page, and then Firefox show me an alarm as these sentences: 

当前页面的某个脚本正忙，或者已停止响应。您可以立即停止该脚本，或者您可以继续以等待该脚本结束。

 脚本：https://bits.wikimedia.org/www.wikidata.org/load.php?debug=false&lang=zh-cn&modules=jquery%2Cmediawiki%2CSpinner%7Cjquery.triggerQueueCallback%2CloadingSpinner%2CmwEmbedUtil%7Cmw.MwEmbedSupport&only=scripts&skin=vector&version=20130606T161301Z:24

This is my user agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.2; WOW64; rv:21.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/21.0

--Great Brightstar (talk) 14:51, 15 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Complications resulting from multiple meanings[edit]

The topic of this item is "Wikipedia", which can have multiple meanings:

There are four ways that this could be handled:

  1. Keep both topics represented by a single item. This is what the current situation is, and it comes with issues like implying that since [a] English Wikipedia (Q328) is part of (P361) [each] Wikipedia, and German Wikipedia (Q48183) is a instance of (P31) Wikipedia, then German Wikipedia (Q48183) must have its own corresponding part which is its English Wikipedia (Q328).
  2. Split them into two separate items. This would result in a lot of redundant data, some confusion about which one is "just Wikipedia" (other databases probably wouldn't make the distinction), several queries resulting in doubles, and a large pile of arguments regarding where certain data should go.
  3. Make this item about the Wikipedia project (instance, not class), split the Wikipedia language edition (Q10876391) tree to be independent of this item, and not have a item beyond that representing the concept of "a Wikipedia" outside Wikipedia language edition (Q10876391). English Wikipedia (Q328) is not an instance of (P31) Wikipedia or any subclasses.
  4. Make this item about the class "Wikipedia", and not have an item representing Wikipedia as a distinct single entity.

Thoughts? --Yair rand (talk) 01:48, 22 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I think that in this case, we should use has part(s) (P527) and part of (P361), for sure.
For example, The Paris Wikipedia page in english (as an example, we don't have an item for this entity of course, just enlarging the scope to have more object to reason with) is a part of Wikipedia page in english. So I'll say Wikipedia itself is not really a Wiki, it's a project. This project is run by the Wikipedia community and uses a Wiki a tool. A wiki is a kind of website.
On the other hand, both Wikipedia in english and The Paris Wikipedia page in english are collaborative project. This is consistent beetween part/whole relationship must link beetween object of the same kind (class) :) (for example, my foot is a part of my body, and both are biologicals stuffs, made of cells and so on, in the physical world ...).
So I'll say that then english page on Paris on Wikipedia is an instance of Wikipedia in english project. Wikipedia in english project is a subclass of Wikipedia project itself subclass ofWikimedia project subclass of Collaborative project.
I'll say that properties of project is that it is run by some kind of community, we could say
⟨ Wikimedia ⟩ run by Search ⟨ Wikimedian community ⟩
⟨ Wikimedia ⟩ uses sofware Search ⟨ Mediawiki ⟩
⟨ Wikimedian community ⟩ develops Search ⟨ Mediawiki ⟩
, ...
@Yair rand: Please also comment on Wikidata:Requests_for_comment/Adopt_Help:Classification_as_an_official_help_page, it's an attempt to help to sort out things in this type of situation ...
For example I'll say that indeed Wikipedia in english page of Paris is a token in the sense of Help:Classification. Maybe Wikimedian project is a type of collaborative projects. IRL people collaborate and create pages and softwares, as results of the projects. This projects are tokens. Smaller project can be composed to make bigger one, this is how we go from Paris page to Wikimedia ... TomT0m (talk) 09:44, 22 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Konkani link is incorrect[edit]

{{Edit request}} The link for gomwiki points to a page for a person. Please change it to 'Wikipidia'.

https://gom.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipidia  – The preceding unsigned comment was added by The Discoverer (talk • contribs).

✓ Done by Infovarius. Matěj Suchánek (talk) 14:49, 7 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

instance of class ?[edit]

@Izno:

I think wikipedia is an instance of encyclopedia, which has parts : the linguistic versions. has part(s) (P527) seems to work well in this case. If for example we create a class Multilanguage online encyclopedia, that would be clear. TomT0m (talk) 16:29, 14 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Has part is not meant as an inverse of subclass. --Izno (talk) 20:31, 14 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
And I would disagree, so I suppose this is the real disagreement-I read each language as being its own encyclopedia, which means each language is an instance of the class Wikipedia. --Izno (talk) 20:32, 14 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@Izno: My arguments : in frwiki, the definition is Wikipedia is ... a multilingual project. In the english one Wikipedia quickly became multilingual. The main Wikipedia page is https://www.wikipedia.org/ , which give access to each language versions, which are part of the global project. Imho Wikipedia is a project, which has a lot of subprojects. Some informations are in some project, but not in others, and Wikipedias goal is to share the sum of all knowledge. To make a sum, you have to add, not to version ;).
On the other hand, we can read on Wikipedia is a project to build free encyclopedias in all languages of the world. https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Our_projects which tends to be more of your POV. This is a totally different presentation for wiktionary: Wiktionary is a project to create a multilingual free content dictionary in every language. TomT0m (talk) 11:06, 15 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Maybe we can add the two statement with different sources, Wikidata is designed for that :) Maybe we can also @Jimbo Wales, User:LilaTretikov_(WMF): /o\ TomT0m (talk) 11:06, 15 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

New addings[edit]

Why instance of (P31) open content (Q1293664) and not another property? Why platform (P400) World Wide Web (Q466) and not Internet (Q75)? --Infovarius (talk) 19:22, 20 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on October 9th, 2020[edit]

{{Edit request}}

+ Motto (slogan):

  • English:The sum of all knowledge
  • German: Die Summe allen Wissens

+ MediaWiki website (Q15633582)

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.147.40.172 (talk) 13:52, 9 October 2020‎

 Not done: doesn't seem correct. Hazard-SJ (talk) 23:18, 29 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request[edit]

{{tl|Edit request}}

Please add the following short description in Old English: Tôniman online encyclopedia ðe anyone canne edit. 178.94.181.131 16:47, 11 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

✓ Fulfilled--Estopedist1 (talk) 05:14, 12 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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