Talk:Q55983715
Autodescription — organisms known by a particular common name (Q55983715)
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"living organism class" and "group of living things" - difference between class and group[edit]
@Succu: 1. In the origin they didn't differ between group and classes. In the beginning, it was all the same. The difference between group and classes was later.
2. misleading: It should be obvious that "class" doesn't refer to the taxonomic class (Q37517) but to the informatical class (Q16889133).
Yet, naming it "group" would misleading to put groups into this class.
Here in wikidata we have two branches:
- The class branch: living organism class (Q21871294) -> class (Q16889133) -> class (Q5127848)
- The group branch: group of humans (Q16334295) -> group of living things (Q16334298) -> group of physical objects (Q61961344) -> group (Q16887380)
For example, The Rolling Stones (Q11036) are a group of living things. They are also known by a particular common name. Thus, they are a group of organisms known by one particular common name. Of course, they are a group but no class. Thus, it would be wrong to put them as instance into the class branch. They belong into the group branch.
If the name would be "class of organisms known by one particular common name", it would be obvious that The Rolling Stones are no instance of Q55983715 because they are a group of organisms and no class of organisms.
But calling a class "group" would be misleading to it.
3. The difference between class and group:
In a class, all organisms are instances of this class. For example:
- Mick Jagger (Q128121) is instance of human (Q5).
In a group, all organisms are part/member of this group. For example:
- Mick Jagger (Q128121) is part/member of The Rolling Stones (Q11036).
--Eulenspiegel1 (talk) 18:37, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
- Looks like you changed your mind. I don't think we should use group/class in the label. --Succu (talk) 14:42, 5 July 2020 (UTC)
- Yes, I changed my mind. We can use "set" in the label instead of group/class. --Eulenspiegel1 (talk) 15:00, 5 July 2020 (UTC)
- Yet another technical term. Maybe we should start with a description (aka definition) of this item and than find a good label. --Succu (talk) 17:49, 6 July 2020 (UTC)
- Maybe mustard plant (Q30076) is a good starting point? --Succu (talk) 20:52, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
- Yet another technical term. Maybe we should start with a description (aka definition) of this item and than find a good label. --Succu (talk) 17:49, 6 July 2020 (UTC)
- Yes, I changed my mind. We can use "set" in the label instead of group/class. --Eulenspiegel1 (talk) 15:00, 5 July 2020 (UTC)