Talk:Q567

Land der Staatsangehörigkeit / Citizenship

Merkel wurde am 17. Juli 1954 in Hamburg geboren, und wurde erst "kurz danach" in die DDR umgezogen. Müsste die Staatsangehörigkeit dann nicht erst einmal Westdeutsch sein?

Merkel was born 17 July 1954 in Hamburg. Wouldn't that make her citizenship West German in first place, before she (was) relocated to Eastern Germany? Yotwen (talk) 05:42, 5 March 2017 (UTC)

Sehe ich ebenso. Bitte bei erneutem Eintrag, dass sie seit ihrer Geburt Staatsbürgerin der DDR war, eine belastbare Quelle nennen. --HarryNº2 (talk) 16:29, 9 October 2020 (UTC)

öffentliche Ämter

Hinweis: Das heutige BMFSFJ hieß damals nicht so und hatte nur einen Teil der heutigen Zuständigkeiten. Ich weiß leider nicht, wie man dies hier korrigiert. --Muns (talk) 15:13, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

GND

@Kolja21: just searched her name in lobid which offered two results but on 1210121425 when clicking further to dnb, it is redirected, so lobid is outdated. On the other hand, 1210121425 is a high number, maybe recently created, a theory supported by absence from VIAF. Is there any public way to find out who created 1210121425?

lobid didn't offer results for the other redirects, so the page may disappear. For others to see I made a copy http://web.archive.org/web/20200527043142/http://lobid.org/gnd/1210121425 . MrProperLawAndOrder (talk) 04:33, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

@MrProperLawAndOrder, Acka47: Since GND 1210121425 has been changed into a redirect and deleted by VIAF there is AFAIK no way to find out what library or archive has created this ID. (But it's strange, because 1210xxxxxx numbers are new and the ID must have been created this month. Maybe Acka47 knows better.) I've added lobid-gnd (Q51714594) as source. Imho we should only store redirects with source + date. --Kolja21 (talk) 05:35, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

@Kolja21: thank you. No idea if it was deleted from VIAF, maybe it was never added, because deleted in GND before it was in VIAF - or it will be seen in VIAF, because the travel started before it was deleted. The redirects are all in GND LDS, no specific date there, so requiring a date is asking for more than the LDS provides. MrProperLawAndOrder (talk) 07:03, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

@Kolja21, MrProperLawAndOrder: Please excuse my late answer, I should probably check my Wikimedia notifications more regularly. Strangely, there are still the two records in lobid-gnd. So I reopened an issue where we dealt with merged /redirected entries, see https://github.com/hbz/lobid-gnd/issues/117#issuecomment-647334806. This will be fixed soon. With regard to the question "Is there any public way to find out who created 1210121425?": I don't think you can find out unless you have a WinIBW login. If there is still interest to find this out, I could ask my colleagues that are working on the GND, should I? Acka47 (talk) 07:32, 22 June 2020 (UTC)

@Acka47: Hallo Adrian, super, dass jemand vom HBZ hier mitarbeitet. Wenn du Zeit hast, werf' bitte mal einen Blick auf die de:Vorlage Diskussion:Normdaten#Tn-Sätze ab Mitte Juni nicht mehr verfügbar. Das Thema ist für uns in Wikipedia im Moment hoch aktuell, da es die Normdatenwartung massiv beinflusst. Es wäre für uns auch spannend zu wissen, wie das HBZ mit Tns und nicht individualisierten Tp6 (Systematik: 00m Maschinell eingespielte Datensaetze) umgeht. Bis jetzt haben wird nur die DNB als Ansprechpartner, der wir die Fehlerliste de:WP:GND/F weiterleiten. --Kolja21 (talk) 18:03, 22 June 2020 (UTC)

child no value

@ChristianKl: what is your source for child=no value [1]? Or is it OR and there is no source other than you? MrProperLawAndOrder (talk) 07:06, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

• @MrProperLawAndOrder: Wikidata has no policy of requiring adding sources for every claim. I don't feel like supporting your attempts of changing Wikidata norms by telling people to follow different norms by opening discussions at many places. If you look at the page you can understand where the information comes from. ChristianKl ❪✉❫ 09:28, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

  @ChristianKl:

  1. Re "Wikidata has no policy of requiring adding sources for every claim." - did anyone claim so?
  2. Re "I don't feel like supporting your attempts of changing Wikidata norms by telling people to follow different norms by opening discussions at many places." - please take back this personal attack or show where I did so.
  3. Re "If you look at the page you can understand where the information comes from." - the page still has no hint at your source.

  You refuse to publish your source? MrProperLawAndOrder (talk) 15:26, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

I told you about my source, you might want to read more careful. ChristianKl ❪✉❫ 17:19, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

Edit request

{{Edit request}}
En dash in deskription "2005–2021"; (same as in date above)
Now:

deutsche Politikerin (CDU), 1991–1998 Bundesministerin, 2005-2021 Bundeskanzlerin

(Halbgeviertstrich in Datumsangabe "2005-2021" in der Beschreibung, wie Datum darüber.)
Thx --Killerkürbis (talk) 22:35, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

@Killerkürbis:  Done, thanks for noticing it! – Tacsipacsi (talk) 01:12, 4 March 2022 (UTC)