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Jura1 (talkcontribs)

Hi Strepulah

Please note that this type of content deletion on English language aliases is not desirable. Please avoid deleting English language aliases in the future.

You may want to check on Wikidata:De_kroeg before doing similar deletions on Dutch aliases.

Strepulah (talkcontribs)

Hi Jura1,

From what I understand, disambiguation should not be included in the Wikidata label or alternative label for that matter. "Disambiguation information should instead be part of the description", is what can be read on Help:Label. Am I correct?

Jura1 (talkcontribs)

This is about label field, but you are editing the alias field.

Strepulah (talkcontribs)

I reckoned that the same rule applies to aliases or alternative labels, since they are labels in a sense.

Multichill (talkcontribs)

Deleting valid aliases like in this edit is unwanted and borders vandalism. Please stop and undo your edits.

Multichill (talkcontribs)

You failed to establish consensus for the mass removal of these aliases. Failure to restore these aliases might result in administrative sanctions.

Strepulah (talkcontribs)

The consensus is to use the alias field for aliases. If you want to use it for non-aliases, it is up to you or the adder to clarify and find consensus.


Note that if it is merely your goal to search with Wikipedia page titles, you can just type or paste them in the search bar and hit enter. Wikipedia page titles are already searchable, so there is no need to add them as alias as well.

Jura1 (talkcontribs)

Where did you get that idea about a "consensus" from ?

It's possible that aliases for Dutch follow a slightly different approach (when compared to English), but given Multichill's comment it doesn't seem so.

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Multichill (talkcontribs)

No such thing as consensus for removal in Dutch.

Strepulah (talkcontribs)

The consensus is just in the meaning of the word "alias", as in like, a name by which an entity is also known. But no one knows Ruth by the name "Ruth (persoon)". The Sint-Martinuskerk in Zaventem is not commonly known as "Sint-Martinuskerk (Zaventem)". No one ever calls Robert Müller "Robert Müller (1920-2003)". They are not aliases. No synonyms. Nor acronyms. Nor alternative spellings.

2001:7D0:81DA:F780:7CAB:80E:7720:3D3D (talkcontribs)

I noticed that Dutch aliases for a couple of churches in Estonia were put back and forth. To me alias removal like Special:Diff/1492462557 makes perfect sense, while restoring it does not. As is the case for both labels and aliases, and as also laid down at Help:Aliases, they are for *names*. Wikipedia article title "Heilige Geestkerk (Tallinn)" has disambiguation "(Tallinn)" appended to a name, the latter part quite clearly not being part of a name. Usually such labels/aliases are due to automatic import of Wikipedia article/redirect titles anyway, without it being indicated that anyone considers these as actual names.

Circumstances around English Wikipedia article titles like "Oranjestad, Aruba" are less clear. Isn't the reason to use comma instead of brackets that in English "Oranjestad, Aruba" might be understood as a longer name variant?

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