Topic on User talk:Solidest

Hi Solidest! I am writing to you to try to understand how I should behave so that I will be better prepared in the future, as I am a relatively new user. I would like to bring to your attention this reset of one of my moveClaims: this one. Since it is a property related to a film, I had moved it from the entity page as the latter relates to the TV series. Was I wrong? (Leaving aside the fact that you have now turned the entity page associated with the film into a page associated with a children's book). If the entity associated with the film no longer exists, shouldn't this entry not be here?

Hi. Please note that before your edits this entity was already set as p31 = written work, and the English description was incorrect. In cases where an entity has a lot of misconnected statements and sitelinks describing different things - the correct approach is to check the earliest versions of this entity and design it according to the original meaning. In this case it was also originally p31=book. So moving film statements in there was a mistake.

Speaking of franchises, they are usually arranged as a separate item with p31=media franchise and wiki articles where it is explicitly stated that it is a franchise are moved there. If the article simply describes the original work first, nowhere saying about the franchise, you can leave that article with the original work item as in this case (but you can also move it to a franchise - there's no strict approach here).

In this case, the correct thing to do would be to create a new item for the film and move all statements there. But there's a problem here - this 2005 film doesn't seem to exist, judging by the text of the articles and external ID pages, it seems to be a DVD compilation of several episodes from the series. Lumiere ID is linked to series' IMDB ID.

I think sometimes people create items for such DVD editions (need to recheck), but I think it would be more correct to report it to TMDB for deletion, and with that usually some related external IDs disappear as well. So I'd rather just remove the incorrect IDs, and moved what can be attached to the series there, which I've already done.

You're right, I had not checked the chronology but rather took for granted that the entity was connected to the film simply by reading the English description. It was shallow of me, mea culpa!

Thanks for the replies, now I understand, I hope to be better prepared for future edits. I will try to open a ticket on Lumiere to investigate the existence of the film for this specific case, even though I have unanswered open tickets on their portal for years. IMDb, however, is unlikely to be wrong, so as you said, probably only the TV series exists.