User talk:Ыфь77

removal of metropolis (Q427961) instance

Hi there, I noticed that you removed the instance metropolis (Q427961) from the item Metropolis of Gortyna and Megalopoli (Q15092233). Why did you do that?
I know most of the items of the metropolis of church of Greece have the instance Eastern Orthodox eparchy (Q60176300), which is erroneous for current term-related reasons.--Jimkats (talk) 18:07, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

• Сравните настоящие митрополии (например, Nizhny Novgorod metropolis (Q4318629) и Metropolis of Moldavia and Bukovina (Q3245435)) и митрополии Константинопольской ПЦ <Ecumenical Patriarchate of Constantinople (Q211004)> и Элладской ПЦ <Church of Greece (Q59778)>, ту же Metropolis of Gortyna and Megalopoli (Q15092233). Последние — обычные епархии (причём довольно мелкие), руководителям которых по историческим причинам присвоили титул митрополита <metropolitan (Q189854)>, но других признаков митрополий у них нет. google translation: Compare the real metropolitans (for example, Nizhny Novgorod metropolis (Q4318629) and Metropolis of Moldavia and Bukovina (Q3245435)) and the metropolitans of Ecumenical Patriarchate of Constantinople <Ecumenical Patriarchate of Constantinople (Q211004)> and Church of Greece <Church of Greece (Q59778)>, the same Metropolis of Gortyna and Megalopoli (Q15092233). The latter are ordinary dioceses (and rather small ones), whose leaders have been given the title of metropolitan for historical reasons <metropolitan (Q189854)>, but they have no other signs of metropolitans. --Ыфь77 (talk) 18:28, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

Many problematic metaclasses

Hi I notice many of the metaclasses that you have created that are parent classes of fruit picking of an area are subclass of of normal classes. Metaclasses should only be subclasses of other metaclasses. Are you okay if I delete many of these incorrect statements? Lectrician1 (talk) 10:34, 31 January 2023 (UTC)

• No. --Ыфь77 (talk) 10:37, 31 January 2023 (UTC)
  • So are you going to fix them? Lectrician1 (talk) 10:38, 31 January 2023 (UTC)
    • Нет, они правильные, но отменять Ваши правки не буду. Translation: No, they are correct, but I will not undo your edits. --Ыфь77 (talk) 10:41, 31 January 2023 (UTC)
    • Q12280169, Q12866777, Q30923713 — exactly metaclasses. --Ыфь77 (talk) 10:44, 31 January 2023 (UTC)

      fruit picking is not a metaclass

      horticulture is not a metaclass

      agriculture is not a metaclass

      These are all subclass of (P279) you have added to the metaclasses. Lectrician1 (talk) 10:46, 31 January 2023 (UTC)

      • Q105897950 — метакласс, его подклассы являются метаклассами. Translation: Q105897950 — is a metaclass, its subclasses are metaclasses. --Ыфь77 (talk) 10:50, 31 January 2023 (UTC)

        Yes, but what I'm saying is that agriculture by country or territory should not have subclass of (P279)agriculture (Q11451). All the values of subclass of (P279) on agriculture by country or territory must be metaclasses. agriculture is not a metaclass. Lectrician1 (talk) 10:53, 31 January 2023 (UTC)

        • Я не знаю, как по другому показать зависимость agriculture by country or territory от agriculture, а она должна быть! Translation: I do not know how else to show the dependence of agriculture by country or territory on agriculture, but it should be! --Ыфь77 (talk) 11:03, 31 January 2023 (UTC)

          That's what is metaclass for is for :) Lectrician1 (talk) 11:10, 31 January 2023 (UTC)

          • Ok. --Ыфь77 (talk) 11:12, 31 January 2023 (UTC)

Lectrician1, [1] так правильно? Translation: is that right? --Ыфь77 (talk) 11:17, 31 January 2023 (UTC)

@Lectrician1:↑ --Ыфь77 (talk) 11:20, 31 January 2023 (UTC)

Yes! Thank you! Lectrician1 (talk) 11:22, 31 January 2023 (UTC)

Вам спасибо, я просто не знал, как сделать правильно. В течение этого дня переделаю все остальные метаклассы. Translation: Thank you, I just didn't know how to do it right. During this day I will redo all the other metaclasses. --Ыфь77 (talk) 11:24, 31 January 2023 (UTC)

Сделано / Done. --Ыфь77 (talk) 11:46, 31 January 2023 (UTC)

April 2023

Greetings, you are currently involved in an edit war regarding a content dispute. This is against policy. Please do not edit-war even if you believe that you are right. I have started a discussion on the Talk Page, where you can build consensus for your change. Further engagement in edit-wars will result in reports to administrators and sanctions on your account such as blocking. Elizium23 (talk) 13:32, 26 April 2023 (UTC)

Приветствую, в настоящее время вы участвуете в войне правок по поводу спора о содержании. Это против политики. Пожалуйста, не редактируйте, даже если вы считаете, что правы. Я начал дискуссию на странице обсуждения, где вы можете достичь консенсуса в отношении ваших изменений. Дальнейшее участие в войнах редактирования приведет к отчетам администраторам и санкциям в отношении вашей учетной записи, таким как блокировка. Elizium23 (talk) 13:43, 26 April 2023 (UTC)

Надо было сразу переходить на страницу обсуждения, а не участвовать в войне правок. Не забывайте, что термины в разных языках имеют разное значение. --Ыфь77 (talk) 14:10, 26 April 2023 (UTC)

Удаление P971

Что означают Ваши удаления из «категория:Культура города» category combines topics (P971) «культура страны/государства» местонахождения города?--VitalRyabchuk (talk) 20:13, 19 May 2023 (UTC)

• Тем, что местонахождение для города — зачастую дублирующее и ненужное свойство. Для тех городов, которые представляют из себя АТЕ (например, коммуны Италии, города федерального или любого другого значения в РФ), географическое положение однозначно задаётся свойством АТЕ (located in the administrative territorial entity). --Ыфь77 (talk) 20:22, 19 May 2023 (UTC)
• Сорри, не разобрался, что о категории речь: тем, что сам город однозначно себя позиционирует. Т. е. Категория:Культура города есть множество, равное пересечению классов культура и город (у нас пересечение множеств почему-то названо объединением). Если требуется Категория:Культура страны по городам, то там пересечение 3 классов: культуры, страны и модификатора "по городам". --Ыфь77 (talk) 20:29, 19 May 2023 (UTC)

  Ссылка на элемент Культура территории может быть только у элемента-подкласса либо однозначная связь: страница "Культура n-ной территории" и "Категория:Культура n-ной территории". Во всех остальных случаях ссылка дублирует информацию и не нужна. Ыфь77 (talk) 20:35, 19 May 2023 (UTC)

I have a question

May I ask, why do the descriptions start with a lowercase letter? Explosion^💥 08:37, 9 July 2023 (UTC)

Потому что это не имена собственные и не грамматические предложения и по правилам языков, в которых я исправлял, должны быть со строчной буквы. Сравните: культура Бахрейна — культура = имя нарицательное, Бахрейн = имя собственное. Google translation: Because these are not proper names or grammatical sentences, and according to the rules of the languages in which I corrected, they should be with a lowercase letter. Compare: culture of Bahrain — culture = common name, Bahrain = proper name. --Ыфь77 (talk) 11:49, 9 July 2023 (UTC)

Duplicates

Please refrain from playing with Iranian categories and do NOT create unnecessary duplicates. --Orijentolog (talk) 18:24, 4 December 2023 (UTC)

• @Orijentolog: Вы смешали архитектурный стиль (персидская архитектура) и архитектуру территории (архитектура Ирана) — разные понятия, Аллах Вам судья, буду считать, что разбираетесь в том, что сделали. Online translation: You have mixed the architectural style (Persian architecture) and the architecture of the territory (architecture of Iran) — different concepts, Allah is your judge, I will assume that you understand what you have done. --Ыфь77 (talk) 10:17, 5 December 2023 (UTC)

To call Iranian (Persian) architecture as a "style" is vague, as same as with Italian architecture. Both are something much huger. I don't understand where did you get idea that these are "two different concepts", and I didn't see any similar example with separated items (like: Spanish architecture & architecture in Spain). --Orijentolog (talk) 10:24, 5 December 2023 (UTC)

LGBT ontology

Thanks for all your work on the LGBT items by country ! Léna (talk) 15:36, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

ЛГБТ меня не интересуют, я только упорядочиваю элементы культуры, включая культуру ЛГБТ. Online translation: I am not interested in LGBT people, I only organize the elements of culture, including LGBT culture. Ыфь77 (talk) 15:40, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

Category:Churches of the Russian Orthodox Church

Hi, I don't understand why you have separated "Category:Churches of the Russian Orthodox Church" (Q8283870) from "Category:Russian Orthodox churches" (Q15301185).

In enwiki we have en:Category:Russian Orthodox church buildings for all of Russian Orthodoxy, including e.g. ROCOR & Old Believers. Is "Category:Churches of the Russian Orthodox Church" intended to exclude ROCOR & Old Believers churches, or what? Fayenatic london (talk) 20:50, 20 May 2024 (UTC)

Briefly: Category:Russian Orthodox churches = Category:Churches of the Russian Orthodox Church + Category:Russian Old Believers churches + Category:Churches of the Russian Orthodox Church Abroad (Agathangelos) + ... + Category:Churches of the Russian Orthodox Church <other>. --Ыфь77 (talk) 21:11, 20 May 2024 (UTC)

В Category:Churches of the Russian Orthodox Church (Q8283870) должны быть православные храмы в юрисдикции Russian Orthodox Church (Q60995), в Category:Russian Orthodox churches (Q15301185) - русские православные храмы любой юрисдикции. Online translation: Category:Churches of the Russian Orthodox Church (Q8283870) should have Orthodox churches in the jurisdiction of Russian Orthodox Church (Q60995), in Category:Russian Orthodox churches (Q15301185) - Russian Orthodox churches of any jurisdiction. Ыфь77 (talk) 21:14, 20 May 2024 (UTC)

Most of ROCOR has been a division of the Russian Orthodox Church since 2007. Ыфь77 (talk) 21:17, 20 May 2024 (UTC)