User talk:Boberger

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Europeana Art History Challenge - update

Thank you for signing up and participating in the Europeana Art History Challenge!
I have just published an update to the project on the mailing list which you might be interested in:
https://lists.wikimedia.bg/pipermail/europeana-280-challenge/2016-April/000042.html
You can also subscribe to the list here (if you're not already) for further updates and conversation between participants. Good luck and happy translating! Sincerely, Wittylama (talk) 14:24, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

Hello again! I mentioned your work in particular in the "halfway" report for the challenge in the This Month In GLAM Special story published yesterday. Wittylama (talk) 11:56, 11 May 2016 (UTC)

Europeana Art History Challenge

Kære Boberger, jeg har tilbagestillet en del af de wikidataredigeringer du har gjort på dansk og norsk, fordi de er stavet forkert. Mvh. Orf3us (talk) 22:17, 30 May 2016 (UTC)

OK, men vore det inte bättre om du endast korrigerade felaktigheterna? Att det är flera fel det förstår jag, eftersom det är många fällor att gå när man byter mellan grannspråk! Boberger (talk) 22:22, 30 May 2016 (UTC)

Beklager at jeg udtrykte mig upræcist; jeg har korrigeret fejlene. Mvh. Orf3us (talk) 22:57, 30 May 2016 (UTC)

Tack, jag trodde nog det också. Tack för hjälpen att korrigera. Det var säkert många fel, men man kanske ändå lär sig litet mer med tiden! Boberger (talk) 12:15, 31 May 2016 (UTC)

Obs! Det blir konstiga stavningsfel i den sparade versionen av ovanstående, som inte visar sig i förhandsvisningen!??????Boberger (talk) 12:17, 31 May 2016 (UTC)

Well, also this second time these funny missspellings occur. I make a try to edit in English instead:

Thanks, I believed you would. Thanks very much for making these corrections. I'm sure there were a number of wrong tranlations, but hopefully I'll learn little by little over time.Boberger (talk) 12:21, 31 May 2016 (UTC)

Så kanske jag har funnit flet till slut: mina inställningar var satta på ett annat språk än svenska eller engelska. Här kommer ett sista försök:

Tack, jag trodde nog det också. Tack för hjälpen att korrigera. Det var säkert många fel, men man kanske ändå lär sig litet mer med tiden! Boberger (talk) 12:24, 31 May 2016 (UTC)

Peace Treaties in Art 30 x 30 Challenge

Hej Boberger! I am Iñaki LL, a Wikipedian in residence at the San Telmo Museoa, Donostia-San Sebastián. We are holding the Peace Treaties in Art 30 x 30 Challenge in collaboration with Donostia-San Sebastián European Capital of Culture 2016 with a view to fostering a culture of peace and based on its Peace Treaty exhibitions at different city locations.

Your outstanding participation in the recent, similar Europeana contest grabbed my attention, and would really love to have all your good wikipedic and artistic know-how poured into this inspirational challenge :p The contest will reach its climax in an edit-a-thon we will be holding on July 9! Take a look, hopefully see you virtually or on site, all contributions welcome, tack! Iñaki LL (talk) 11:54, 24 June 2016 (UTC)

Hi Iñaki LL. I´m sorry, but I did not see your message until to-day, August 14. I would have liked to participate! Regards Boberger (talk) 12:43, 14 August 2016 (UTC)

Hi Boberger, that was a pity! We would love to hear from you another time maybe:) Regards Iñaki LL (talk) 22:23, 14 August 2016 (UTC)

Q20786219

Why did you do this? Multichill (talk) 13:38, 13 August 2016 (UTC)

???? Boberger (talk) 12:38, 14 August 2016 (UTC)

What did you mean? Please explain! Boberger (talk) 08:34, 14 June 2017 (UTC)

Monica Åslund

Hi Boberger! Can you please check Monica Åslund (Q61717218) to ensure all the claims belong to the same person? I have a suspicion that there may be two different people named “Monica Åslund”:

1. the member of the Anitas Livs (Q550938) and
2. a choir master [1]!

Many thanks -- Meisam (talk) 13:23, 13 February 2019 (UTC)

Request

Hello.

Can you create the article en:Azerbaijan State Academic Opera and Ballet Theater in Swedish just like the article sv:Opera i Armenien which you uploaded? I attended these two opera houses and was pleasantly surprised and enthralled how rich the repertoire of these internationally almost unknown opera houses of these overlooked Caucasian countries are.

Thank you.

A2D2 (talk) 08:56, 26 February 2019 (UTC)

Can you also create the article en:List of bridges in Azerbaijan and en:Baku Zoo in Swedish?

Thank you.

A2D2 (talk) 16:05, 29 March 2019 (UTC)

Løkken

Bemærk at Løkken (Q1021910) ikke er en selvstændig administrativ enhed, sådan som Hjørring Municipality (Q511214) er. Derfor er det bedre at bruge location (P276). Jeg har rettet Løkken Museum (Q92484480) og Løkken Badehotel (Q92562193). --Hjart (talk) 12:39, 30 April 2020 (UTC)

OK. Tack.Boberger (talk) 13:01, 30 April 2020 (UTC)

Vaxine

It was good you noticed there is Vaxine (Australia) item. But you do not erase statements on one item, and create statements on the second. Instead you MERGE both. Please learn how to do this. --SCIdude (talk) 14:20, 17 September 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for informing me of this! Boberger (talk) 15:54, 17 September 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for your work in maintaining Wikidata. I have a small suggestion to improve your future work. If you notice that two items are duplicates, please merge them instead of blanking one of them as you did with the item Q107156963. External sites use Wikidata identifiers, so it is important that we preserve the chain of references. We do this by making one item a redirect for the other. In particular, item ids are intended to be a permanent identifier, so we never reuse them for another concept. See Help:Merge for more information on how to merge items, and consider installing the Merge Gadget. Thanks!  Bovlb (talk) 14:11, 9 June 2021 (UTC) --Bovlb (talk) 14:11, 9 June 2021 (UTC)

Thank you. My problem in this case was that I created a duplicate before I noticed that somebody already had created a post. So, in the future I will merge posts in similar situations. Boberger (talk) 17:56, 9 June 2021 (UTC)

Q832003

What's the purpose of this? Why did you split this item in two? I fail to see any reason for your seemingly random disconnects. Grüße vom Sänger ♫ ^(talk) 10:36, 8 August 2021 (UTC)

I would not call this a split. It is rather an introduction of a Wikidata item for a sub-category.

It maybe different, but at least in some languages there is a difference between horse driven railways and horse driven tramways (streetcars), as it normally is between railways and tramways. In the Swedish language (and probably in some other languages) there is also a specific term for

all horsedriven rail traffic ("hästbana", equivalent to "Pferdebahn" in German). Thus in Swedish "hästspårväg" is just a part amount of "hästbana". My idea was to get items in Wikidata which are adequate for such a distinction (to be used for those languages that have distinct terms for this). Logically there could be a third item, namely for the term for such horsedriven rail systems, which are not horsedriven tramways (streetcars).

The change of the earlier Wikipedia connections for Wikidata Q832003 is not really random. For some languages you can easily see in the Wikipedia that the items connected in Wikidata Q832003 really refers to horsedriven tramways and not to the "higher" category for horsedriven rail systems at large (e.g. Norwegian, Dutch, French and Russian). In other cases I've not been able interpret the text and therefore not changed Wikidata item number for such articles. I guess that some more Wikipedia articles now connected to Q832003, actually are "specialised" articles on horsedriven trams.

I admit that the result is not totally satisfying, but I wonder what the alternative would have been. If there is scope for a specific Wikidata item for horse driven tramways, linked to a Wikipedia article with specialized content, it would be incorrect not to link the new item also to Wikipedia articles with the same content in other languages.

Maybe the sort of randomness you critizise could be eliminated by a more thorough reading of other Wikipedia articles with the help of Google translate to deem whether the content refers to the sub-category "horsedriven tramway" rather than to the head-category for all horsedriven rail systems. Boberger (talk) 13:08, 8 August 2021 (UTC)

The main result is, that the interwikilinks are now broken, and interwikilinks are one of the precious things, that must eb kept in consideration with such changes. How to you plan to connect the now disconnected articles in the different wikipedias again? Grüße vom Sänger ♫ ^(talk) 18:48, 8 August 2021 (UTC)

In which way are any iw links broken? Boberger (talk) 22:23, 8 August 2021 (UTC)

Articles, the should be linked, are no longer linked. It's a general problem with the atomisation of items in WD. Can you tell me, in wich language version you found those three different articles, that made this disconnect necessary? Grüße vom Sänger ♫ ^(talk) 03:59, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

8 links were removed from Q832003 (Horsecar, Pferdebahn, etc): sv, fr, no, nl, pl, eu, sh, uk. All 8 links have been attached to the new Q107992521 (Tramway hippodrome, paardentram, etc). So there is no one article orphaned.

The problem is rather than possibly a few more articles should be more precisely linked not to Category Pferdebahn but to (Sub)category Tramway hippodrome (what you refer to as randomness). Boberger (talk) 19:12, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

The problem is, that this atomisation makes WD more and more useless as the host for interwikilinks, all those articles should be reachable from one language version of wikipedia to another one, without nerdy detours via WD. In combination with the official restrictions for items for redirects this makes one of the main esecases for WD less and less useful. Grüße vom Sänger ♫ ^(talk) 04:32, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

I can agree with you on a principle level. Although you have to look on the specific items, which the case in question well illustrates. The advantage of a distinction articlewise (and therefore also on Wikidata) between "Horse tram" and "Horse railway" and the higher category "Horse driven rail traffic" are obvious. The problem you observe has to solved in some other way. Boberger (talk) 12:28, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

Q108761678 och Q106708227

Hej Boberger,

Jag funderar lite på om Strandbadet i Hjo (Q108761678) och Strandbadet i Hjo (Q106708227) syftar på samma strand/badplats. Du som tagit fotot på stranden, vad tror du?

Allt gott och trevlig helg!

QubeCube (talk) 13:59, 1 October 2021 (UTC)

Jag råkade också uppmärksamma denna fråga idag, när jag stötte på "Guldkrokens badplats" på en turistwebbsida. Jag misstänker att Du har rätt, men har inte försökt att kontrollera. Om det är samma, tycker jag att man betraktar "Strandbadet i Hjo" som "första namn", eftersom det är det historiskt väl grundade namnet (se t. ex. BBR och Hjo stads webbplats). "Guldkrokens badplats" är litet mer hemmagjort, nytt och möjligen instabilt. För mig associerar det inte till en badplats inne i Hjo stads tätortsbebyggelse, utan till en badplats på landet eller på en småort utanför staden. Jag ska kolla vidare, och det väl du också göra! Hälsn Boberger (talk) 16:04, 1 October 2021 (UTC)

Nu är tämligen säker på att du har rätt, med www.badkartan.se som källa. Fint att Du tog upp frågan. Jag för samman wikidataposterna. Boberger (talk) 16:12, 1 October 2021 (UTC)

The two objects are now merged. Boberger (talk) 16:33, 1 October 2021 (UTC)

After more thoughts about this matter, I´ve come to a new conclusion. Although the two objects are physically adjecent, they are in many (most ?) ways different objects. Therefore, I have created av new item for "Guldkroksbadet" Guldkroksbadet (Q108783923) and published an article on Guldkroksbadet on Wikipedia in Swedish. Boberger (talk) 13:24, 3 October 2021 (UTC)

Bra lösning på det hela! Good solution! QubeCube (talk) 13:09, 7 October 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for your work in maintaining Wikidata. I have a small suggestion to improve your future work. If you notice that two items are duplicates, please merge them instead of blanking one of them as you did with the item Q112157798. External sites use Wikidata identifiers, so it is important that we preserve the chain of references. We do this by making one item a redirect for the other. In particular, item ids are intended to be a permanent identifier, so we never reuse them for another concept. See Help:Merge for more information on how to merge items, and consider installing the Merge Gadget. Thanks!  Bovlb (talk) 20:55, 29 May 2022 (UTC) --Bovlb (talk) 20:55, 29 May 2022 (UTC)

OK. Taken. Boberger (talk) 21:35, 29 May 2022 (UTC)

Trundholm Mose

Stop venligst med at rode med The exact point where the Sun wagon was found (Q30149809) etc. De referer ikke helt til de samme ting Hjart (talk) 13:16, 2 August 2022 (UTC)

Det är just et som jag försökt att rätta till. Det ska ju inte vara två poster för samma objekt. Sedan blev det litet fel i första omgången, men jag tror att det är OK mu, eller hur? Boberger (talk) 13:22, 2 August 2022 (UTC)

Bemærk venligst at den ene refererer til mosen og den anden til et mindesmærke i mosen Hjart (talk) 13:31, 2 August 2022 (UTC)

Aj, aj! Det hade jag inte riktigt uppfattat. Då förstår jag din anmärkning! Ursäkta mig! Boberger (talk) 13:34, 2 August 2022 (UTC)

Uppåkra Arkeologiska Center

Måske Uppåkra Archeologiska Center (Q107506660) kan interessere dig? Hjart (talk) 06:53, 23 August 2022 (UTC)

Javisst. Jag ska titta på det och hoppas besöka det någon gång i framtiden. Tack för tips! Boberger (talk) 14:51, 23 August 2022 (UTC)

Svenske etiketter på danske kirker

Jeg har just lavet svenske etiketter til de fleste danske kirker. Jeg har endnu ikke helt regnet de grammatiske regler for hvornår i bruger f.eks. "Møborgs kyrka" fremfor Møborg Church (Q12328071), men håber at nogle kompetente svenskere kan rette det hen ad vejen. Jeg bemærkede også oprettelsen af sv:Elmelunde Kirke i dag. Det virker lidt inkonsekvent når nogle af jeres artikler om danske kirker ender på ".. kyrka" og andre på ".. Kirke". Engelske artikler om danske kirker ender f.eks. konsekvent på ".. Church" (se f.eks. en:Elmelunde Church). Hjart (talk) 19:58, 28 August 2022 (UTC)

Jag tycker att man åtminstone i sammanhanget svenskspråkiga Wikipedia kan välja i olika artikelnamn mellan den danska formen t.ex. "Møborg Kirke" eller den svenska formen t.ex. "Ribes domkyrka". Personligen tycker jag att vi i stor utsträckning ska närma oss de danska namnen, eftersom de flesta svenskar nog klarar av att förstå egennamn på danska, även om vissa ibland måste anstränga sig. Men åsikterna går nog isär i den svenska Wikimedeiagemenskapen i denna fråga.

Det som skulle se riktigt konstigt ut är att blanda, som t.ex. "Möborg Kirke", "Møborgs Kirke", "Möborgs Kirke", "Møborgs kirke", Möborg kyrka. Møborgs kyrka kan man nog säga, med danskt namn på platsen och svenskt för byggnadsbegreppet, men några skulle kanske tycka det är en lustig blandning.

Wikidata och Wikipedia bör väl rimligen följa samma linje. Jag tror att Du är på söker mark om kyrkor i Danmark om Du använder de danska namnen. Om någon svensk misstycker, så får väl den personen ändra.

Om Du vill använda översättning till svenska, så tänk på:

• Genitiv-s används flitigt – långt ifrån alltid och långtifrån konsekvent. Nästan alltid efter konsonant (Lemvigs kyrka, Thorsmindes kyrka, Korsör kyrka), men det finns undantag som Kalmar domkyrka. Som regel inte genitiv-s efter ortsnamn som slutat på vokaler -a,-e,-å,-o, -ö (Gillleje kyrka, Abenrå kyrka, Läsö kyrka), men slut-e är ett knepigt fall (Gilleleje kyrka är något bättre än Gillelejes kyrka, men båda duger nog.

Konsekvens är förstås bra, även om jag inte är konsekvent. Det finns nog också till del en annan konsekvens. Om man tar gamla, i Sverige mer eller mindre "välkända" kyrkor, så är det sökrast att skriva "Ribe domkyrka" ä, "Ribe Domkirke" medan det är rimligt att skriva "Vemb Kirke" för denna för svenskar okända kyrka. På svenska wp vill man gärna hålla fast vid på svenska hävdvunna namn som Odessa i stället för Odesa eller Fredrikshamn í stället för Frederikshavn, Helsingör i stället för Helsingør etc. Däremot verkar det gå bra att skriva Rømø i stället för Römö etc.

HälsningarBoberger (talk) 21:58, 28 August 2022 (UTC) "

Danske redningsstationer

Bemærk at du har lavet adskillige dubletter af danske redningsstationer. I et enkelt tilfælde endda af en du selv havde oprettet. Jeg tænker du vil kunne spare dig selv og os andre for en del besvær ved at foretage en simpel søgning inden du opretter nye emner. Hjart (talk) 18:48, 13 October 2022 (UTC)

Joddböle

I Finland gäller village or neighbourhood (Q103910453) inte Q10701129 som är en teknisk term i Sverige. Maundwiki (talk) 20:48, 6 January 2023 (UTC)

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