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Protect Wikidata page

Dear admins, can you protect the Wikidata page Q12498460? Because it is regularly vandalized. Thanks. -ArdiPras95 (talk) 03:45, 1 August 2019 (UTC)

I think it is not necessary. Edits are from months ago. Rafael (stanglavine) msg 14:16, 1 August 2019 (UTC)
 Not done. This is not on-going vandalism. Esteban16 (talk) 01:10, 2 August 2019 (UTC)
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User:83.143.246.118

Please hide this edit - grossly insult. Geagea (talk) 05:53, 1 August 2019 (UTC)

✓ Done. Rafael (stanglavine) msg 14:14, 1 August 2019 (UTC)
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I think, this one can be deleted. --Wurgl (talk) 20:01, 1 August 2019 (UTC)

✓ Done --Lymantria (talk) 20:43, 1 August 2019 (UTC)
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Sockpuppets of 影武者/Nipponese Dog Calvero,edit in ja:エグザスケルトン[1],ja:エグザスケルトン create to ja:利用者:賴家康=影武者/Nipponese Dog Calvero[2].--MCC214 (talk) 10:04, 2 August 2019 (UTC)

The account has been globally locked. Esteban16 (talk) 23:52, 3 August 2019 (UTC)
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Semi protection request for Q192218

Hi, I think item Q192218 (Ted Bundy) should be semi-protected for a while, please see recent history. Best regards --—d—n—f (talk) 15:57, 3 August 2019 (UTC)

✓ Done Semi, 1 month. Lymantria (talk) 16:05, 3 August 2019 (UTC)
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Request block of User:Maxeto0910

This user has repeatedly ignored warnings to adhere to Help:Label#Labels_in_English and Help:Label/fr#Majuscule. They continue to change dozens of labels and descriptions in English and French to start with uppercase letters inappropriately, creating work for other editors to clean up their mess. No acknowledgement of warnings. Recent diffs: [3], [4], [5] Swpb (talk) 12:46, 2 August 2019 (UTC)

✓ Done. Blocked for one week. Esteban16 (talk) 23:50, 3 August 2019 (UTC)
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Please block Ram0444

Spam only account. --Catherine Laurence 01:11, 4 August 2019 (UTC)

✓ Done by Jasper Deng. Catherine Laurence 01:23, 4 August 2019 (UTC)

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Vandalism only. Blocked on zhwiki as sock. --Xiplus (talk) 11:55, 4 August 2019 (UTC)

Blocked indefinitely for vandalism (after Google Translate'ing their edits); if any other accounts are present here, then please report them here and I will make sockpuppetry blocks too.--Jasper Deng (talk) 21:15, 4 August 2019 (UTC)
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Boca Juniors: SP request

Hi, it seems item Q170703 should be semi protected for a while: please have a look on recent history. Best regards, --—d—n—f (talk) 21:00, 4 August 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected for 6 months.--Jasper Deng (talk) 21:14, 4 August 2019 (UTC)
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182.1.175.138

182.1.175.138 repeated vandalism after warning -LiberatorG (talk) 22:23, 5 August 2019 (UTC)

✓ Done for 31 hours. -- Ajraddatz (talk) 22:26, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
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103.4.85.94

103.4.85.94 persistent vandalism after warning -LiberatorG (talk) 02:43, 6 August 2019 (UTC)

✓ Done -- Ajraddatz (talk) 02:50, 6 August 2019 (UTC)
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AbuseFilter don't allow to write official site for chinese county

Unable to fill P856 for Q1198968 because latin transliteration "huojia" of the name of this chinese county (which is a part of its official URL) is in spam list (I don't know why). --Slb nsk (talk) 08:28, 2 August 2019 (UTC)

@Slb nsk: It is not the abuse filter, but rather, the spam blacklist: see [6] (yes, the entry is almost 15 years old). You can request its removal at m:Talk:Spam blacklist.--Jasper Deng (talk) 08:50, 2 August 2019 (UTC)
@Slb nsk: For now, you should be able to add it as I have whitelisted this domain.--Jasper Deng (talk) 08:56, 2 August 2019 (UTC)
Thanks a lot! --Slb nsk (talk) 10:12, 2 August 2019 (UTC)
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Block user Davidtom4311

Spam only account. Catherine Laurence 11:54, 6 August 2019 (UTC)

✓ Done by Jasper Deng. Catherine Laurence 14:50, 6 August 2019 (UTC)

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I suggest to protect Wikidata property for birth or death (Q18608756). Often IP users add real birth or death dates or names into the description. Does not look like vandalism but as misunderstanding of the item. Raymond (talk) 15:38, 6 August 2019 (UTC)

✓ Done - widely used item which has been vandalized multiple times recently. -- Ajraddatz (talk) 19:33, 6 August 2019 (UTC)
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Florinmafia

Florinmafia

Vandalism-only account. — Mike Novikoff 22:05, 6 August 2019 (UTC)

✓ Done by Andreasmperu. — Mike Novikoff 22:40, 6 August 2019 (UTC)
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Block request or semi-protection

Hi, could you block 66.220.90.118 or semi-protect item Q79015 ? Many thanks. --—d—n—f (talk) 20:37, 6 August 2019 (UTC)

Blocked; it's just one user so we don't need to semi-protect.--Jasper Deng (talk) 23:50, 6 August 2019 (UTC)
This section was archived on a request by: Regards, ZI Jony (Talk) 16:14, 7 August 2019 (UTC)

Adding multiple times "Thank you in advance" to various items? --Wurgl (talk) 19:51, 1 August 2019 (UTC)

IP hasn't edited since 26 July - don't think any action is needed --DannyS712 (talk) 22:40, 1 August 2019 (UTC)
I found another one: 220.76.90.60. Okay, the user seems to be inactive, however it is a more than useless edit, I reverted some with the comment "Spam". Maybe some other action (filter?) might be a good idea? --Wurgl (talk) 07:55, 2 August 2019 (UTC)

Please check this and block the IP. Regards, ZI Jony (Talk) 03:34, 8 August 2019 (UTC)

✓ Done by Mahir256. — Mike Novikoff 04:07, 8 August 2019 (UTC)
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Please, half-lock Q23303091 Fabian Herbers

There seems to be a nasty IP claiming Fabian Herbers is a god of football. --Wurgl (talk)

Semi-protected for 1 week. Pamputt (talk) 08:08, 8 August 2019 (UTC)
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Blocking

Please, block me !--الرشيد (talk) 09:35, 8 August 2019 (UTC)

Why should we? Stryn (talk) 10:09, 8 August 2019 (UTC)
I just want to block my account here, please. I will never use it again. Stryn.--الرشيد (talk) 13:47, 8 August 2019 (UTC)

✓ Done (noticing that voluntary blocks on request are a common procedure on several other Wikimedia projects); User:الرشيد, you can still edit your own talk page. If you want to start editing again with this account, please place {{Unblock}} on your user talk page. Thanks for your contributions, --MisterSynergy (talk) 15:12, 8 August 2019 (UTC)

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Block ip user 181.135.12.174

Vandal. And please protect the item Alexander von Humboldt (Q6694). --Catherine Laurence 01:18, 5 August 2019 (UTC)

@Catherine Laurence: The vandal has been warned; please report again if you see more vandalism. Protecting an item because of the actions of one user isn't necessary.--Jasper Deng (talk) 01:33, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
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Personal attacking and reverting.

Hello, the user fixertool is reverting my contribution here: https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q4081447&type=revision&diff=991252904&oldid=990310213 accussing me of being a spammer when i am not, it is true that i am blocked in spanish wikipedia but for other reasons not related at all. Greetings.--A4exocet (talk) 17:02, 3 August 2019 (UTC)

 Comment SPU blocked indefintely in es:wp for many reasons, including use of sockpuppets and massive addition of Screen capturas and several videos of a particular TV program (yet published under CC compatible license).--Fixertool (talk) 19:36, 3 August 2019 (UTC)

 Comment False accussations. Greetings.--A4exocet (talk) 21:15, 3 August 2019 (UTC)

 Comment Now user @taichi: has blanked fixertool's discussion page and reverted my reversion accusing me of harassment and vandalism when all that i am doing is protecting the data, i request the intervention of an admin asap. Greetings.--A4exocet (talk) 05:09, 4 August 2019 (UTC)

  • @Fixertool: People who are blocked on an individual Wikipedia are not automatically blocked on Wikidata. Can you explain why you consider the screen-captures of the TV program that seems to be published on Youtube under a CC with reuse allowed to be problematic? ChristianKl09:40, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
  • @A4exocet: It's not your role to warn people that they might be blocked and presenting yourself like you have the authority to give out warning. I can understand why taichai removed that part from the page. ChristianKl09:45, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
  • I left a note on the talk pages of two users who deleted a valid statement and asked them to explain their actions here. --- Jura 10:43, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
Some files of A4exocet are problems about licensing, detected and deleted in Wikimedia Commons see here. The user has a big problem in es.wikipedia (I'm local sysop) using war editions (introducing false statemens in the files) as anonymous IP. This is the reason that Fixertool reverted and I saw the situation here. Taichi (talk) 16:37, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
  • Thanks to you both @ChristianKl: and @Jura1: and sorry fixertool for my inappropriate warning, it's not true that i have introduced false statements in the files of spanish wikipedia under anonymous ip and even less that i am doing that now and i have an explanation for my contributions deleted in commons but probably is not necessary give it here because it seems that the license of the image in the deleted statement is not under discussion. However am i supposed to ask people when they delete a statement for not compelling reason?, because i did it [7] in the taichi's discussion page and he deleted it acussing me of creating a farce and warning me that i would end like in spanish wikipedia. Greetings.--A4exocet (talk) 22:00, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
  • @A4exocet: In general you are supposed to ask a person if you don't see a justification for the edits they made. In a case like this where it seems like a discussion likely wouldn't have an effect, coming here to the Admin's notice board for outside input is fine.
@taichi, Fixertool: To what extend those videos that seem to be presented as CC on Commons seem to have licensing problems is for WikiCommons to figure out. As long as comments keeps the image (and it now has been kept for two weeks), there's no basis for deleting the claim in Wikidata. People who are banned on eswiki aren't automatically banned here. I restored the image of Sibil.
@Everybody involved: We have a policy against edit-wars. If you can't revolve a conflict between yourself, raise the issue elsewhere. If you see evidence that anyone violates the rules of Wikidata, feel welcome to bring up the issue here in the future. ChristianKl08:52, 6 August 2019 (UTC)

milforum.net

Could an admin replace the entry at Q11989459#P856. Just change my entry for https://example.com with https://milforum.net. To do so the site has to be temporarily whitelisted, as it is on the spam blacklist at meta (m:Talk:Spam blacklist#Protected edit request on 6 August 2019, m:User:COIBot/XWiki/milforum.net) due to a well-known vandal. Jeblad (talk) 20:45, 8 August 2019 (UTC)

You add an entry at MediaWiki:Spam-whitelist, do the edit at Q11989459#P856, and remove the entry again. You can also leave the entry in the whitelist, the spam has only been added at Wikipedia, and only at specific articles. Jeblad (talk) 11:05, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
✓ Done I have whitelisted the link and updated on item. Don't see any issue in keeping the link whitelisted, so haven't removed it. ‐‐1997kB (talk) 13:23, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
Removed the link per discussion on MediaWiki talk:Spam-whitelist. User:Jeblad I would like to mention that using that item link still can be spammed over Wikipedia. If I understood that discussion correctly, as there're Wikidata powered infoboxes now, so it will pick the link from wikidata. ‐‐1997kB (talk) 14:18, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
The notion of “link spam” was a bit dubious. It was a dispute where a user tried to use Wikipedia to promote his legal case, but users at nowiki did not want to be part of the dispute. It spilled over into other language editions, and as the links was subsequently removed it got added to the spam blacklist. I believe the feud has calmed down, but well see what will happen. Jeblad (talk) 15:05, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
The entry got an spelling error. It is https://milforum.net, not https://milforun.net. Jeblad (talk) 22:57, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
User:Jeblad Yeah I am aware of that. As most of the links were added over nowiki and now as you say nowiki community doesn't have any issues, could you please ask for it to be removed at m:Talk:Spam blacklist ? ‐‐1997kB (talk) 02:11, 10 August 2019 (UTC)
FTR I have removed the wrong link for now. ‐‐1997kB (talk) 14:10, 10 August 2019 (UTC)
This section was archived on a request by: Regards, ZI Jony (Talk) 12:35, 12 August 2019 (UTC)

Spanish Wikipedia groups a lot of common userboxes under es:Usuario:Userbox. One of them is es:Usuario:Userbox/Usuario email which is the equivalent to en:Template:User email. Would it be possible to add it to Q6970536? Thanks! --MarioGom (talk) 22:38, 8 August 2019 (UTC)

MarioGom: ✓ Done. You could have done it yourself, though. Esteban16 (talk) 02:19, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
Esteban16: it's a user namespace link. Only admins can add them. --- Jura 15:44, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
@Jura1: really? I'm not an admin and I've add user namespace link, I just tried on Wikidata Sandbox (Q4115189) Special:Diff/994229181 and it worked. Is it an abusefilter or something else? Is it documented somewhere? Cheers, VIGNERON (talk) 16:57, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
Maybe the filter had been de-activated or is broken since yesterday's update.--- Jura 17:21, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
Actually, it's simpler than that. The filter explicitly excludes the sandbox items. Try elsewhere Special:AbuseLog/8405452 --- Jura 17:55, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
Thank you Esteban16. It is indeed restricted somehow. When I tried to add it myself I got an error stating that only admins can add links from that namespace. --MarioGom (talk) 10:51, 10 August 2019 (UTC)
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Hi,

For a week now, this IP seems to be vandalizing - or at least doing partly wrong edits (I didn't check everything) - on items about TV shows.

Cheers, VIGNERON (talk) 15:02, 9 August 2019 (UTC)

Blocked by 1997kB for few hours. Pamputt (talk) 17:33, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
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Hikvision (Q5760704) need protection

Two separate ip had attempted to change the official website to spam link. Matthew hk (talk) 09:18, 10 August 2019 (UTC)

✓ Done--Ymblanter (talk) 05:11, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
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Continues adding wrong descriptions after several warnings of Kirilloparma here and in eswiki. —Hasley talk 18:58, 10 August 2019 (UTC)

  • This user should be blocked, despite I have warned him about 4 times that descriptions begin with a lowercase letter (in English and Spanish language), but nothing ... he continues to capitalize Spanish labels and descriptions. Kirilloparma (talk) 13:13, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
✓ Done for 1 week. Rafael (stanglavine) msg 12:01, 12 August 2019 (UTC)
This section was archived on a request by: Regards, ZI Jony (Talk) 12:35, 12 August 2019 (UTC)

Seems like there's an editing war is going on. Might wanna semiprotect until Nomen ad hoc and דוב have sorted it out. --Trade (talk) 00:33, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

Well, the war is about whether or not "Sex offender" should be classified as an "Occupation". דוב (talk) 01:17, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
Hi. I'm not involved in any war, I just reverted a removal because it was unexplained; apologies if I was wrong. I based myself on English WP version, which introduces himself (with citations) he was a "convicted sex offender" (and English WD description too). Cheers, Nomen ad hoc (talk) 06:36, 11 August 2019 (UTC).
I semiproted the page for a year. ChristianKl20:46, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
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Edit request for a protected page

(Copied my request from Project chat as I was forwarded here by User:Jura1)

A simple edit request:

Also, the only indication that the page is protected is the lock mark on the top right corner of the page. You can't even click on it in order to get proper information on why you can't edit the page. Please fix this; it's confusing as it doesn't give advices on what to do when a page is protected. 85.76.148.151 18:22, 12 August 2019 (UTC)

Another edit request:
85.76.148.151 19:24, 12 August 2019 (UTC)
✓ Done - I did the first request, Nomen ad hoc did the second (Special:Diff/995504436) --DannyS712 (talk) 20:11, 12 August 2019 (UTC)
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I think the root cause should be dealt with as well. Can someone fix the protection on these items. --- Jura 12:52, 13 August 2019 (UTC)

Ongoing edit war in Peter Higgs (Q192112)

Peter Higgs (Q192112) is subject to an edit war. Maybe it needs to be semi-protected. --Larske (talk) 05:55, 13 August 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for reporting. Semi-protected for 2 weeks. Pamputt (talk) 08:09, 13 August 2019 (UTC)
This section was archived on a request by: Rafael (stanglavine) msg 11:27, 13 August 2019 (UTC)

Vandalism from several IPs.--Afaz (talk) 01:32, 14 August 2019 (UTC)

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Please consider blocking of the IP 203.76.183.126. The user using it has made repeated nonconstructive edits to Q63190450 and doesn't respond to warnings. --Sintakso (talk) 08:04, 14 August 2019 (UTC)

I semiprotected the item for a month. If there's only one item involved that seems to me the better solution then banning the IP address. ChristianKl10:30, 14 August 2019 (UTC)
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Vandalisms. Szoltys (talk) 15:39, 14 August 2019 (UTC)

✓ Done Semi-protected for one week. Rafael (stanglavine) msg 16:41, 14 August 2019 (UTC)
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I insist again, I already requested the elimination once here but I did not get result. This topic is different, because the redirection was created as editing tests and it was not an item that there previously existed, besides today was created and I noticed that it was an repeated item and also editing test, therefore I returned the content as to the original item and nominated to be deleted (the item that is named in the header).
I ask again that it be deleted, since in the history it only save useless or non-fundamental diffs. —192.71.27.62 23:29, 10 August 2019 (UTC)

Can't be deleted until it is linked with a Wikipedia page. Cheers, Nomen ad hoc (talk) 06:42, 11 August 2019 (UTC).
We usually don't delete redirections (for the RFD, see [8]). Cheers, VIGNERON (talk) 10:25, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
@Nomen ad hoc: @VIGNERON: But this is not a redirection, it was a publication of another item. That's why I send it to delete.
It validates the permanence if in the given case it was previously done separately and sent to merge later, but this is not the case since as it is seen here it was created exactly the same as here and here it was where the content was sent of return. The redirection is unnecessary. --192.71.27.62 21:15, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
Q66360634 is now a redirection after the merge. Yes, it was a duplicate, merging and redirecting is the correct way to deal with duplicates. Don't remove the redirection; there is nothing more to do, this request should now be closed. Cheers, VIGNERON (talk) 07:49, 12 August 2019 (UTC)
@VIGNERON: as well as: "there is nothing more to do", then there is not the option I am giving, which is to delete. What case is it still to be keep, if it is an editing test?. --192.71.27.62 20:13, 12 August 2019 (UTC)
As creator (of that page and giving them the reason to the other previously participating IPs), it is not possible to delete it, as "At the request of the author" as in enwiki. 45.114.116.123 23:45, 12 August 2019 (UTC)
No, author request are not a valid reason on Wikidata to delete items when items should be merged (and thus redirects be created). In Wikidata, it's important that external parties that link to items can trust that our identifiers are stable which isn't a concern for enwiki. ChristianKl09:23, 15 August 2019 (UTC)

 Not done so. Nomen ad hoc (talk) 09:31, 15 August 2019 (UTC).

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Spam-only account--94rain (talk) 01:47, 16 August 2019 (UTC)

Blocked by Mahir256. ‐‐1997kB (talk) 02:54, 16 August 2019 (UTC)
This section was archived on a request by: ‐‐1997kB (talk) 02:54, 16 August 2019 (UTC)
blocked by Mahir256. ‐‐1997kB (talk) 13:49, 16 August 2019 (UTC)
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Talk page vandalism

Please consider semi-protection of User talk:Favonian since it seems to be targeted with persistent vandalism. --Sintakso (talk) 16:53, 16 August 2019 (UTC)

✓ Done and blocked a /40 subrange in the process. Mahir256 (talk) 17:32, 16 August 2019 (UTC)
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User:Yusepe_alfredonx has only vandalism edits. --S.K. (talk) 17:39, 16 August 2019 (UTC)

Blocked by Esteban16. ‐‐1997kB (talk) 02:38, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
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Can someone take a look on Q66363708, probably also Q66394696 and Q66383017, and clean up Ezzex changes. He has some issues with local articles at nowiki, and tries to enforce them at this project. The entries should be fairly well-documented. Jeblad (talk) 23:13, 12 August 2019 (UTC)

Please protect this item: [9], [10], [11], [12].

AntoFran (talk) 20:45, 16 August 2019 (UTC)

✓ Done Esteban16 (talk) 22:22, 16 August 2019 (UTC)
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Removals on Q55649583

Hi,

a newcomer is removing a lot of well-sourced statements and right aliases and identifiers on Alexandre Benalla (Q55649583). Shouldn't we consider its semiprotection? Nomen ad hoc (talk) 14:28, 17 August 2019 (UTC).

In the end, I assume that we should better block Abcom1, who doesn't take account of my warnings and goes on removing statements without valid reason. Thanks, Nomen ad hoc (talk) 15:01, 17 August 2019 (UTC).
After warnings by Nomen ad hoc and Deansfa, it seems that Abcom1 stopped their behaviour, but the IP 105.154.212.176 re-did the same edits. Is it possible to block the IP too? Thanks in advance, Sukkoria (talk) 18:18, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
Hello, sorry for the French, there are also strange things on Commons and frWP : [13] Regards, --Bédévore (talk) 19:06, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
✓ Done I blocked both. -Ash Crow (talk) 19:42, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
Phew, thanks. Nomen ad hoc (talk) 19:46, 17 August 2019 (UTC).
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Please protect page. Suffered many vandalism. Catherine Laurence 08:38, 18 August 2019 (UTC)

✓ Done.-- Hakan·IST 08:51, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
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Block request

Hi, 196.158.85.142 is going on vandalising since yesterday (insults). Can you stop that ? Best regards, --—d—n—f (talk) 18:49, 18 August 2019 (UTC)

✓ Done, blocked for a week--Ymblanter (talk) 19:05, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
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Block another Guntur

New account GunturSubIndo is another one of Suspected Wikidata sockpuppets of Guntur Irawan; same random merges on same items. Please block. Thanks - Lαδδo chat ;) 01:10, 19 August 2019 (UTC)

✓ Done It is disappointing that this person shares the name of a district of Andhra Pradesh from where a number of good-faith Wikidata contributors hail. Mahir256 (talk) 01:15, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
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Constant permanent vandalism, should be protected. Steak (talk) 20:03, 19 August 2019 (UTC)

✓ Semi-protected for a month due to the high amount of vandalism it has received throughout the year. Esteban16 (talk) 20:54, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
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User pages created by IPs

Shall we create a new filter to prevent IPs creating and editing user pages? I see a lot of deletion requests of IP created user pages. Do we (they) need this? Bencemac (talk) 12:03, 12 August 2019 (UTC)

If demand exist, I thing that is a good ideia. Have some valid reason for an IP create a userpage? User Talk maybe, for warnings, questions, but userpage not. Rafael (stanglavine) msg 12:12, 12 August 2019 (UTC)
I agree. If someone wants to create a user page they should register a user account. ChristianKl11:53, 14 August 2019 (UTC)

Shall I create one for testing? Bencemac (talk) 12:11, 14 August 2019 (UTC)

Yes, go ahead. ChristianKl09:27, 15 August 2019 (UTC)
Of course. Rafael (stanglavine) msg 13:53, 16 August 2019 (UTC)
I am going to do it as soon as I arrive home from Wikimania. Thanks for your patient. Bencemac (talk) 18:17, 17 August 2019 (UTC)

It is done. I have tested with some current deletion requests and it looks like it is working. Bencemac (talk) 09:36, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

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Stop Batch

Hello can a administrator please stop my batch with the number #17471. There is a mistake in the description and the Stopfunction in QuickStatements does not work. I dont have a problem if you block my account until the problem is solved and reblock me after it. Otherwise it were good if this dont stops the batch, that someone could reset the edit group when the batch is finished, because by me in my Country it is late evening now. -- Hogü-456 (talk) 21:14, 14 August 2019 (UTC)

I added a block for a day but otherwise don't know how to stop the batch. ChristianKl09:27, 15 August 2019 (UTC)
@ChristianKl: Batch has been finished already, so no point in blocking. ‐‐1997kB (talk) 11:03, 15 August 2019 (UTC)
I unblocked again and told QuickStatements at https://tools.wmflabs.org/editgroups/b/QSv2/17471/ to undo the batch. I'm quite sure whether that solved the full problem, can someone who has more experience with QuickStatements check? ChristianKl11:10, 15 August 2019 (UTC)
@Magnus Manske: it seems that it is not possible for admins to stop batches on QuickStatements (although this is meant to be possible I think). Logging in as admin and stopping the batch has no effect. − Pintoch (talk) 13:27, 15 August 2019 (UTC)
FYI Submitting users haven't been able to stop batches either since Magnus switched QuickStatements to use the rust language; it may actually have worked briefly, but I haven't seen it working for at least a month now. ArthurPSmith (talk) 15:30, 15 August 2019 (UTC)

MediaWiki:Watchlist-summary post on potential sister project

As a followup to a similar discussion at en.wp's village pump, I'd like to suggests a message to be added to the MediaWiki:Watchlist-summary:

  • A proposal for a new Wikimedia Sister Project, WikiJournal, to coordinate the collection and external peer review of new content is open for discussion.

The meta:WikiJournal proposal has had >100 comments so far and it's the sort of thing that I think the wikidata community may find interesting (previously also posted at the wikidata project chat). Getting broad feedback is valuable so it might be worth a notice briefly. Previous locations of notifications listed at this link. T.Shafee(evo&evo) (talk) 04:38, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

✓ Done ‐‐1997kB (talk) 08:49, 21 August 2019 (UTC)
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Q50825725

Ninja (Q50825725): persistent IP vandalism. — Mike Novikoff 17:10, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

✓ Done by Mahir256, thanks. — Mike Novikoff 17:47, 21 August 2019 (UTC)
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Vandalism. Thanks.Catherine Laurence 04:09, 22 August 2019 (UTC)

✓ Done by Mahir256. Pamputt (talk) 09:48, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
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Add Q23679 to Bot group

I created a new account User:Q23679. Could this user be added to the Bot group? Thanks! U+1F360 (talk) 16:10, 17 August 2019 (UTC)

@U+1F360: You probably need to go to Wikidata:Requests for permissions/Bot. William Graham (talk) 17:03, 17 August 2019 (UTC)

Fiona Caroline Graham (Q256916)

Can we have a longer lock or perma-lock on Fiona Caroline Graham (Q256916) or make her uneditable to new accounts with less than a certain number of edits? Per the talk page, fanboys and people impersonating the subject keep deleting her age based on the concept that geishas do not reveal their age. It isn't even clear if she is a recognized geisha by the organization that awards the title, or just an honorary geisha. She has written several books on Japanese culture and there is a documentary on her, so she is a public figure. The Library of Congress got her b'day from one of those publications or the documentary. This deletion/restore has been going on for at least five years at Wikipedia, and more recently here, now that someone has figured out that the data is stored here. --RAN (talk) 00:28, 24 August 2019 (UTC)

✓ Done Indef-semi'd, if that helps. Mahir256 (talk) 01:39, 24 August 2019 (UTC)
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Semi-protection for Q5592

Please semi-protect Michelangelo (Q5592) - persistent IP vandalism from various IP addresses, popular theme. --Jklamo (talk) 00:57, 26 August 2019 (UTC)

✓ Done. Semi-protected for 6 months. Esteban16 (talk) 03:42, 26 August 2019 (UTC)
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Request Semi-protection for Q9006285

Reason: IP user and new user vandalism. --SCP-2000 (talk) 15:46, 22 August 2019 (UTC)

✓ Done--Ymblanter (talk) 19:15, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
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Semi-protection for Q8023

Nelson Mandela (Q8023): persistent IP vandalism. — Mike Novikoff 16:10, 27 August 2019 (UTC)

✓ Done ‐‐1997kB (talk) 16:47, 27 August 2019 (UTC)
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Please block 187.189.155.63 ASAP, mass vandalism continues after a series of rollbacks and even a warning on their talk page. — Mike Novikoff 17:58, 27 August 2019 (UTC)

✓ Done blocked for 24 hours. Clearly not here to contribute. Thanks for reporting. Rafael (stanglavine) msg 18:06, 27 August 2019 (UTC)
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Protect Q230499

Multiple unregistered users vandalized. --Catherine Laurence 14:28, 28 August 2019 (UTC)

✓ Done by Mahir256 Bovlb (talk) 15:50, 28 August 2019 (UTC)

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Request Semi-protection for Q5760704

The item had been protected before. After the expiry of the protection, spammer are back to attack the entry. The two sites are blocked already in en-wiki in the local spam list. Matthew hk (talk) 17:35, 28 August 2019 (UTC)

✓ Done, for 3 months--Ymblanter (talk) 19:05, 28 August 2019 (UTC)
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Block IP ‎200.16.89.251

Vandalism. (Talk/留言/토론/Discussion) 15:16, 22 August 2019 (UTC)

Range 200.16.89.0/24 have a long history of vandalism. I don't oppose of a long-term block (like one year). Rafael (stanglavine) msg 12:43, 23 August 2019 (UTC)

Request Semi-protection for Q65767134 and Q64509602

Both entries are at high risk of vandalism from Mainland China and POV pushing. Matthew hk (talk) 20:37, 22 August 2019 (UTC)

So far, I di not see high vandalism on this item and there is a lot of activity. I do not support preventive protection. Pamputt (talk) 05:36, 23 August 2019 (UTC)

 Not done. SP request not supported. Nomen ad hoc (talk) 08:05, 29 August 2019 (UTC).

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Block IP-Range 2600:1702:4B28:F760:0:0:0:0/64

The IP-Range 2600:1702:4B28:F760:0:0:0:0/64 is curently using by a faker. Please block the range. --Natsu Dragoneel (talk) 12:51, 23 August 2019 (UTC)

✓ Done for 45 days. Have history, no valid contributions. Rafael (stanglavine) msg 12:22, 26 August 2019 (UTC)
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IP 186.121.237.140

Please take a look at Q607959 and do the necessary actions if needed. I've undid the IP's edit twice for not explaining the removal and requesting him/her to explain but to no avail. (Talk/留言/토론/Discussion) 15:19, 25 August 2019 (UTC)

✓ Done. I've reverted their edit and added a reference to the statement. The IP has been warned, if they continue like that will be blocked. Esteban16 (talk) 03:41, 26 August 2019 (UTC)
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Vandalism. Thanks--Catherine Laurence 00:12, 27 August 2019 (UTC)

  • They are adding deliberately false information to Filipino actors related items, changing their nationality to American etc.. which are clearly contradict to the information on corresponding articles on Wikipedia --94rain (talk) 02:50, 27 August 2019 (UTC)
✓ Done and protected few with high edit history. Feel free to list more for protection. ‐‐1997kB (talk) 12:53, 27 August 2019 (UTC)
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2019-08 undelete

You can undelete Q18661807, then merge it with Q3337772. Visite fortuitement prolongée (talk) 19:04, 28 August 2019 (UTC)

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Semi-protection for Q2908

Please semi-protect Antoine de Saint-Exupéry (Q2908) - persistent IP vandalism from various IP addresses, popular theme. --Jklamo (talk) 22:31, 28 August 2019 (UTC)

✓ Done for 6 months. ‐‐1997kB (talk) 04:27, 29 August 2019 (UTC)
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167.61.69.64

Vandalism on Q239458. (Talk/留言/토론/Discussion) 02:13, 29 August 2019 (UTC)

✓ protected Delmira Agustini (Q239458) for 3 months. ‐‐1997kB (talk) 04:32, 29 August 2019 (UTC)
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SP of Q56434717

Please SP Greta Thunberg (Q56434717) - her death has been falsely announced several times. Nomen ad hoc (talk) 06:33, 29 August 2019 (UTC).

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Q57342

Please consider semi-protection of Mauricio Funes (Q57342) since it seems to be repeatedly targeted with vandalism. --Sintakso (talk) 11:24, 29 August 2019 (UTC)

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Note for fellow admins: this is a request related to an older conflict from German Wikipedia. A while ago a defamatory Youtube video appeared which claimed to have de-anonymized some Wikipedia editors who contribute a lot to honeypot topics in dewiki. Their contributions are not totally uncontroversial, of course, yet they are established and well-respected members of the German Wikipedia community.

2019-08 P1651

@Kopilot: קיין ומוויסנדיק פּרעפֿערענצן added a video of the conspiracy theorist Q59661204 on Wikipedia (Q52). Visite fortuitement prolongée (talk) 20:11, 23 August 2019 (UTC)

Hi! I was astonished myself about that video. I grew up in a communist country suppressing criticism of any sort. There is an answer video on Youtube but before trying to find out where that should fit (i.e. before finishing) Firefox crashed. What do you suggest?
no bias — קיין אומוויסנדיקע פּרעפֿערענצן — keyn umvisndike preferentsn talk contribs 22:07, 23 August 2019 (UTC)
I have removed the claim from Wikipedia (Q52), and, to make it clear, it should not be linked again in this or another item. The video is not "criticism", it is an attack video against individual Wikimedia users. As a form of harassment, it is not a serious source of Wikipedia criticism. --MisterSynergy (talk) 08:58, 24 August 2019 (UTC)

2019-08 Q66317722

@Kopilot, Feliks: What is your opinion about Q66317722 item? Visite fortuitement prolongée (talk) 08:03, 24 August 2019 (UTC)

Also Q28125864. Visite fortuitement prolongée (talk) 08:27, 24 August 2019 (UTC)
  • Deleted Q66317722 as clearly not notable.
  • Deleted Q28125864 as not notable, but this is a bit edgy. The subject's academic background might warrant an item, but there was no use in other items yet, no independent sources, and the item was clearly meant to be build around the Wikimedia activities, which had been based on several non-serious sources.

--MisterSynergy (talk) 09:06, 24 August 2019 (UTC)

Your judgement this morning (8:58) was correct. The video was created as an external mobbing instrument against some editors in the German Wikipedia. The authors embrace the 9/11 conspiracy theory of controlled demolition and cooperate with the Swiss historian Daniele Ganser, who had called publically for edit wars in his personal article, which had been successfully stopped before. The mobbing video was promoted and published by the YouTube-Blogger and 9/11 conspiracist Ken Jebsen, who also called for mobbing of me and other editors. Most of the claims of the video are false or misleading and have been debunked in WP:de and other social media. - Greetings, Kopilot (talk) 11:59, 24 August 2019 (UTC)

2019-08 P973

ElmarG and PaSova have added several links to wikimannia.org, which is a masculinist/antifeminist website. Visite fortuitement prolongée (talk) 08:05, 24 August 2019 (UTC)

  • Clearly not a serious source; the owners of the Website are unknown, and the sources for their information are often very sketchy. I will have another look later this weekend, but I suggest already to add wikimannia to the spam blacklist. It is already on this list in German Wikipedia. --MisterSynergy (talk) 10:17, 24 August 2019 (UTC)

Block ip 173.184.198.101

Could you please block 173.184.198.101 (talkcontribslogs) and delete all items created by them? They keep creating duplicate items despite being warned against doing so. They've been previously blocked for the same reason (see this thread). --Shinnin (talk) 02:20, 30 August 2019 (UTC)

✓ Done for 6 months. Mahir256 (talk) 02:50, 30 August 2019 (UTC)
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Q175291

Vandalism by 2405:3800:282:1381:752c:266a:4fd3:812d. (Talk/留言/토론/Discussion) 04:08, 30 August 2019 (UTC)

✓ Done Wikipedia:Blocking policy (Q175291) semi-protected for 1 week. Pamputt (talk) 06:03, 30 August 2019 (UTC)
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74.12.123.253

Vandalism on various items after being blocked by 1997kB 3 days ago. (Talk/留言/토론/Discussion) 06:01, 31 August 2019 (UTC)

✓ blocked for month. ‐‐1997kB (talk) 07:09, 31 August 2019 (UTC)
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Administrators on this project may want to be aware of the following proposal by WMF to mask all IP addresses of editors. --Rschen7754 00:46, 27 August 2019 (UTC)

Please block 2806:2F0:9000:14A7::/64

2806:2F0:9000:14A7::/64 Repeated vandalism using multiple IP addresses within /64 block. -LiberatorG (talk) 19:52, 31 August 2019 (UTC)

✓ Blocked for one week. Esteban16 (talk) 21:17, 31 August 2019 (UTC)
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Please block ParisouMC

ParisouMC (talkcontribslogs) is an obvious sockpuppet of ZoreMOV (talkcontribslogs), a globally locked spammer/LTA. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 23:46, 31 August 2019 (UTC)

Should this account be blocked globally, as the main one? Pamputt (talk) 09:06, 1 September 2019 (UTC)
Being the sockpuppet of a cross-wiki spammer, I assume so. I have reported it on Meta. Esteban16 (talk) 16:51, 1 September 2019 (UTC)
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Please block Soweego bot

It's unclear why the bot adds "stated in" to value for Twitter accounts it adds. I asked the operator Hjfocs (talkcontribslogs) about it and didn't get an answer (Topic:V6cc1thgo09otfw5). There are three approvals for this bot, but there don't seem to be any about Twitter accounts. Does someone else find them? In any case, this needs to be clarified and likely fixed. --- Jura 14:48, 31 August 2019 (UTC)

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Block IP-Range 181.188.170.1/150

User without registration, religious fanatic that affects entries of atheistic figures, changed the value of "religion" by removing the value "atheism" and adding another, without providing new sources, changing the value leaving the sources of the previous value, as you can see in William James Sidis (Q313603) even the user ignore the request of an administrator

You can confirm it in: William James Sidis (Q313603) - Peter Higgs (Q192112)

I fear that by the range of ips 1/150 it has damaged more entries

-- Audcsias talk 20:35, 26 August 2019 (UTC)

The first part of those edits is correct; atheism is not a religion. The statements should be set to "no value". Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:05, 31 August 2019 (UTC)

Duplicate items

Please will somebody undelete Q25272179 and merge Q56650916 into it. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 09:47, 30 August 2019 (UTC)

Likewise Q25271231 and Q28992601. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 09:49, 30 August 2019 (UTC)
✓ Done ‐‐1997kB (talk) 14:05, 30 August 2019 (UTC)
@1997kB: Thank you, but this does not seem correct, as both items now exist at the higher (newer) QIDs, with the lower QIDs redircting to them. It should be the other way around. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:50, 30 August 2019 (UTC)
@Pigsonthewing: Yeah because the newer QIDs have more links and history to them. Also newer ones had more statements, so I kept them as main and older as redirect. ‐‐1997kB (talk) 03:15, 31 August 2019 (UTC)
@1997kB: This is not correct; merging will move the statements and a bot will fix any existing links. Please reverse the direction of the redirects.Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:00, 31 August 2019 (UTC)
@Pigsonthewing: How it's incorrect? I followed the Help:Merge#Select_recipient_item which says – The recipient item is usually the item that is used more often (possible indicators are the quality of sitelinks or the number of sitelinks and statements). Those new items has been used more often. That's why I think it's not an good idea to choose them as redirect, but if you want them other way, feel free to go for it. ‐‐1997kB (talk) 12:51, 1 September 2019 (UTC)

Unapproved TidoniBot adding erroneous dates

TidoniBot (talkcontribslogs) is adding death dates from Find A Grave. There are many problems with these edits, for example, this edit. First, Find A Grave is an unreliable source, with entries created by random members of the public taking pictures of graves and adding their own description of what the grave marker says. Second, there are often several entries for the same person, such as Francis Bacon and the bot does not identify which entry is intended. Third, the bot adds false entries, claiming they are in the Gregorian calendar when they are actually in the Julian calendar.

I notified the editor about calendar errors and the unreliability of Find A Grave. A few minutes later, after searching a bot approval and not finding any, I asked the editor to state where the approval discussion was located. The erroneous edits continued with no response from the editor. I will notify the editor of this discussion momentarily. Jc3s5h (talk) 16:54, 30 August 2019 (UTC)

I blocked indef as an unapproved bot.--Ymblanter (talk) 18:48, 30 August 2019 (UTC)
If a Find A Grave memorial ID is listed under the identifier, then the value on the page is added to Wikidata. If the added Value is not accurate, the entry should be marked as deprecated. If Find A Grave is an unrealiable source, why is it available as an identifier? I admit it is user generated content (Like all the Wikipedia Projects), so the accuracy of the dates may be questionable.
About the second point, the bot does not need to identify the right entry for the date on find a grave. It takes the Identifier specified at a Wikidata entry and looks up the date on that ID.
Considering the Third point, find a grave does not specify if a date is in gregorian or julian format, so neither does the bot.
I am going to deactivate the bot for adding dates based on find a grave, until the problems above are resolved. I started a bot request for the bot, since i am also adding dates from other sources like Library of Congress authority ID or Elite Prospects player ID. --Tidoni (talk) 20:20, 30 August 2019 (UTC)
@Tidoni: Regarding point 3 & calendars - unfortunately the bot will specify, as unless you explicitly set the calendar to Julian, then it's entered as Gregorian. It's a pain, I know! Most sources will tend to have a clear policy one way or the other, but I guess something like find-a-grave will have a mismash of "dates taken from a monument" and "dates taken from modern sources" without any clarification.
A way to avoid this is by only importing dates after 1753 (which is "Gregorian in most places using a Western calendar") and skip people from countries which changed later (Russia, Greece, Turkey); or or b) only importing dates after 1923 (which is pretty much "Gregorian everywhere that's using a Western calendar"). Andrew Gray (talk) 17:54, 31 August 2019 (UTC)
Adding unspecified calendar, assumed Gregorian (Q26877139) for some date ranges could avoid the problem as well. Anyways, I do find the additions by the bot useful. Maybe Q63056 could be completed to allow data users to assess its data more easily. --- Jura 18:07, 31 August 2019 (UTC)
Oh, yes! That's also a good solution. I couldn't remember if there was an appropriate qualifier or not. Andrew Gray (talk) 18:10, 31 August 2019 (UTC)
I see the value of having the Find A Grave ID listed, so a reader or editor can go look at it, and see if it leads to a reliable source, in the same way that Wikipedia sometimes does. I would rather it not be used as a source for birth/death dates, and if it is, I would want the bot to check to see if there is already a date with a reference. If the existing date has a source and the source isn't a Wikimedia project, or if the statement is deprecated, then adding the Find A Grave value wouldn't be the worst thing a bot's ever done. Jc3s5h (talk) 18:57, 31 August 2019 (UTC)
Quote: "I see the value of having the Find A Grave ID listed, so a reader or editor can go look at it, and see if it leads to a reliable source, in the same way that Wikipedia sometimes does. But I oppose using sources that copy information from Wikipedia on the grounds of circular referencing. Jc3s5h (talk) 18:57, 31 August 2019 (UTC)"
Question: So no more LOC catalogue? --- Jura 19:00, 31 August 2019 (UTC)
Jura, I am not familiar with the how the LOC catalogue is created. Are you saying it copies information indiscriminately from Wikimedia projects, when the catalog entry is about a work that is not hosted on some Wikimedia project? Jc3s5h (talk) 19:45, 31 August 2019 (UTC)
The notices about people included there are sometimes based on Wikipedia and/or imdb. --- Jura 06:57, 1 September 2019 (UTC)

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────That's a problem, then. Perhaps LOC should be discussed at the request for bot approval page for TidoniBot. Jc3s5h (talk) 12:50, 1 September 2019 (UTC)

Norwegian Wikipedia

See also: Wikidata:Project chat#Norwegian Wikipedia. Also Wikidata:Requests for deletions#Q32176383, but I don't hang around here enough to realize at that moment a merge would be more appropriate.

Norwegian Wikipedia has two items: Norwegian Wikipedias (Q191769) which is falsely stated by Jon Harald Søby to be dissolved and Norwegian Wikipedias (Q32176383) which I guess can't be deleted as long as that poor stub on nowiki exists. Instead, it should be converted to say something like "Description of changes to nowiki after a vote in 2005" or whatever. Q32176383 should not be listed as an internet encyclopedia.

If I revert Jon Harald Søby it'll probably end in an edit war, so I ask here. Alexis Jazz please ping me if you reply 11:14, 25 August 2019 (UTC)

I reverted you once (well, several edits, but you know what I mean), what makes you think I would start an edit war? o_O I don't see why this would need admin intervention of any kind.
Anyways, could we please keep the discussion in one place? It is now spread across three pages for no apparent reason. Jon Harald Søby (talk) 14:34, 25 August 2019 (UTC)
@Jon Harald Søby: What I sense is something that appears to be zealous behaviour. It's obvious to anyone that nowiki never ceased to exist. I added an end date for "Norwegian" as the language on Norwegian Wikipedias (Q191769), but that's all that happened. It didn't vanish. It was de facto already Bokmål/Riksmål, it kept its articles. It didn't cease to exist.
You reverted me without discussion and I suspect we still don't agree. So if I revert you back while we still don't agree, you're saying you wouldn't do anything? Well, that is possible, so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. But apparently, this thing is sensitive and other users may get involved if I revert you. Getting an admin involved is probably not a bad idea. Alexis Jazz please ping me if you reply 21:06, 25 August 2019 (UTC)
 Comment @Jon Harald Søby: That said, please consider merging both articles on nowiki, this way, statements can be much better maintained. --117.15.55.91 05:53, 29 August 2019 (UTC)
 Comment I just reworked both items. Hopefully no reverting this time. Norwegian Wikipedias (Q32176383) is now described for what it is: a description of a part of the history of nowiki. Not a Wikimedia project. Alexis Jazz please ping me if you reply 13:44, 30 August 2019 (UTC)
Since Jura1 is now very shortly after my edits "advising" me to revert myself, I won't be surprised if these items end up needing protection. Alexis Jazz please ping me if you reply 14:06, 30 August 2019 (UTC)
Reinstating the invalid claims would be a very bad idea. It doesn't matter if Wikipedia:Stub (Q4663261) is appropriate, I removed it as Jura1 complained about it. I don't know what Q Norwegian Wikipedias (Q32176383) is an instance of, it's just a Wikipedia article that describes part of another Wikipedia article. It's like an article that describes why Pikachu is yellow. The corresponding Wikidata item shouldn't say it is a species of Pokemon. Alexis Jazz please ping me if you reply 14:14, 30 August 2019 (UTC)
I think your comparison misses the historical perspective. In any case, even that wouldn't be Wikipedia:Stub (Q4663261). --- Jura 14:23, 30 August 2019 (UTC)
@Alexis Jazz: removed all qualifiers without reason. They should be restored and improved if needed. Eurohunter (talk) 13:11, 1 September 2019 (UTC)
@Eurohunter: There's nothing to improve. All were invalid. Alexis Jazz please ping me if you reply 13:27, 1 September 2019 (UTC)
@Alexis Jazz: You are wrong because instance of (P31) with Wikipedia language edition (Q10876391) for sure was correct thats why I restore previous content. Eurohunter (talk) 13:30, 1 September 2019 (UTC)
@Eurohunter: No, it's a description of a part of the history of Norwegian Wikipedias (Q191769) (which is a Wikipedia language edition (Q10876391)). Alexis Jazz please ping me if you reply 13:33, 1 September 2019 (UTC)
@Alexis Jazz: I don't know what you want to say but you removed everything like standard vandalism. Item need to be described. Add right qualifiers instead of pointlss removing of everytging. Eurohunter (talk) 13:36, 1 September 2019 (UTC)
What you mean by "diescription"? it doesn't makes sense. It need to be somehow named. Eurohunter (talk) 13:40, 1 September 2019 (UTC)
@Eurohunter: I never said "diescription". I had added a statement. I added Wikipedia stub. Jura1 thought that sucked. So I removed it. The whole item is nothing but w:no:Wikipedia på bokmål og riksmål. And that stub, what even is that? It's a stub. It's a Wikipedia page. It's a description of a part of the history of Norwegian Wikipedias (Q191769).. What qualifiers would you use for that? It's basically nothing, it has no more content than a Wikipedia redirect. Alexis Jazz please ping me if you reply 13:43, 1 September 2019 (UTC)
@Alexis Jazz: Article on NOWP say something different and it's not named "history of Norwegian Wikipedia". Eurohunter (talk) 13:53, 1 September 2019 (UTC)
@Eurohunter: Article on nowiki is wrong. Alexis Jazz please ping me if you reply 13:56, 1 September 2019 (UTC)

I'm not enirely sure what these latest edits by Alexis Jazz are meant to accomplish. Norwegian Wikipedias (Q191769) is a now defunct trilingual edition in Bokmål, Riksmål and Nynorsk. Norwegian Wikipedias (Q32176383) is the current bilingual Wikipedia edition in Norwegian Bokmål and Riksmål. Norwegian (Nynorsk) Wikipedia (Q2349453) is the current edition in Nynorsk. The latter two supplanted the former. Norwegian Wikipedias (Q32176383) has kept the no. prefix, while Norwegian (Nynorsk) Wikipedia (Q2349453) now has the prefix nn. They are clearly three different entities. This may all sound complicated for a non-Norwegian reader, and it would seem to me that Alexis Jazz has got this all mixed up, probably due to not mastering the language(s). Asav (talk) 14:26, 1 September 2019 (UTC)

@Asav: Nobody is arguing that Norwegian Wikipedias (Q191769) and Norwegian (Nynorsk) Wikipedia (Q2349453) are the same thing. But Norwegian Wikipedias (Q32176383) is Norwegian Wikipedias (Q191769). Norwegian Wikipedias (Q191769) is not defunct. Seriously, is https://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/ unreachable to you? Are you unable to see https://no.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia&action=info was created in 2003? The creation of West Frisian Wikipedia didn't cause nlwiki to stop existing, and the creation of nnwiki didn't cause nowiki to stop existing. Alexis Jazz please ping me if you reply 15:17, 1 September 2019 (UTC)
Quite frankly, this is completely nonsensical. It's obvious that you dont't speak or understand Norwegian. The original trilingual edition did not work out, so it was abandoned, which is the crux of the whole situation. That you're trying to convince native Norwegian speakers that their articles about the Norwegian editions are wrong, as you did at the Norwegian Village pump, is beyond the pale, to put it bluntly. I don't intend to use any more time on this absurd initiative of yours. Asav (talk) 23:36, 1 September 2019 (UTC)
@Asav:Norwegian (Nynorsk) Wikipedia (Q2349453) has also Høgnorsk (Q1420587) pages, so the nn.wikipedia one is also bilingual under your consideration. --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 02:48, 7 September 2019 (UTC)
I frankly wouldn't know. I'm far from proficient in either of those languages. (My German is better than my Nynorsk. Høgnorsk I don't know at all.)
And I reckon it's a matter of definition anyway. Are British and American English different languages? Austrian and German? Let's imagine for a moment that the British and American speakers counldn't agree to a common Wikipedia edition anymore, so they started one UK and one US edition. The US edition kept the prefix en., while the British was named uk.wikipedia.org. That's essetially what happened in Norway. Now, you wouldn't claim that the US Wikipedia edition was the same as the previous common English edition, would you? As far as I'm concerned, that's the nitty-gritty of the matter. Asav (talk) 06:14, 7 September 2019 (UTC)
@Asav: "Now, you wouldn't claim that the US Wikipedia edition was the same as the previous common English edition, would you?" .. actually, I would. Unless they translate/delete a substantial number of articles, it's the same ongoing project with a modified scope. Alexis Jazz please ping me if you reply 14:42, 14 September 2019 (UTC)
And that's exactly what's been done here, which you'd know if you understood any Norwegian at all or had any knowledge whatsoever about the project's history. Asav (talk) 16:35, 14 September 2019 (UTC)
@Asav: No, understanding Norwegian wouldn't help much. I would know if someone could be bothered to provide some proof that any such thing happened, but so far nobody could be bothered. Alexis Jazz please ping me if you reply 18:23, 15 September 2019 (UTC)
@Asav, Alexis Jazz: FWIW, here are examples of Høgnorsk (Q1420587) articles on nn.wikipedia, though, many of them are stubs. --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 23:24, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
@Liuxinyu970226: Thanks, but the main issue is the (non-)existence of a substantial number of articles on nowiki that would have been deleted/translated after the vote. Alexis Jazz please ping me if you reply 00:05, 17 September 2019 (UTC)