Wikidata:Properties for deletion/P3043
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The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.
- Consensus that this identifier can be deleted without loss of information — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 22:09, 3 February 2022 (UTC)
P3043 (P3043): (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs)
Scoresway.com does not exist any more. Their website says Scoresway has a new home at soccerway.com. So now the links redirect to Soccerway website, which means it's a duplicate to Soccerway player ID. Other Scoresway IDs need deleting aswell, but are possibly not duplicated. Pelmeen10 (talk) 10:52, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
Delete on this and the others - but you should probably not remove id's until there's a consensus reached here. ArthurPSmith (talk) 18:09, 2 April 2020 (UTC)A little
Keep, please confirm that if there's online archives (e.g. from archive.org) for Scoresway.com or not. --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 01:10, 3 April 2020 (UTC)- @Liuxinyu970226: Soccerway.com covers all the soccer (football) articles with the exact same content +updates, so online archives are not needed here. Pelmeen10 (talk) 12:05, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
- @Liuxinyu970226, Pelmeen10: A ping without a new ~~~~ is not a ping. —Eihel (talk) 17:17, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
- Delete By my recent searching of archive.org, there's indeed no archives of those URLs. --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 12:14, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
- @Liuxinyu970226: Soccerway.com covers all the soccer (football) articles with the exact same content +updates, so online archives are not needed here. Pelmeen10 (talk) 12:05, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
- Keep 72000 uses. --- Jura 08:09, 10 April 2020 (UTC)
- @Jura1: What's the point when Soccerway ID covers it 100% (I've checked the archived pages). The ID's are even the same. User:Zyxw recently added Soccerway ID's to all that had Scoresway ID's. So no information is lost here and archives not needed. But he also did the opposite - adding Scoresway ID's based on their Soccerway ID's, I don't know why. Pelmeen10 (talk) 12:44, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
- I added IDs for Soccerway person ID (P2369) and P3043 (P3043) since any player with one of those should have the other, until such time as the Scoresway property is deleted (if it is deleted). -- Zyxw (talk) 08:10, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
- @Jura1: What's the point when Soccerway ID covers it 100% (I've checked the archived pages). The ID's are even the same. User:Zyxw recently added Soccerway ID's to all that had Scoresway ID's. So no information is lost here and archives not needed. But he also did the opposite - adding Scoresway ID's based on their Soccerway ID's, I don't know why. Pelmeen10 (talk) 12:44, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
- Delete, after ensuring that all entities with the Scoresway property have the equivalent Soccerway property and any templates using Scoresway are updated to use Soccerway. Both websites were/are owned by Perform Group and displayed the same data. The main difference was that Scoresway used a common formatter URL for players, managers, and referees (www.scoresway.com/?sport=soccer&page=person&id=$1) while Soccerway uses different URLs (int.soccerway.com/players/$1/, int.soccerway.com/coaches/$1/, int.soccerway.com/referees/$1/). The old Scoresway player URLs such as http://www.scoresway.com/?sport=soccer&page=person&id=783 now redirect to the main Soccerway.com page (not the player page). On a related note, it might make sense to add new properties for Soccerway coach/manager ID and Soccerway referee ID, similar to how Soccerbase has Soccerbase player ID (P2193), Soccerbase manager ID (P2195), and Soccerbase referee ID (P7465). -- Zyxw (talk) 08:10, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
- Delete Germartin1 (talk) 09:09, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
- Keep The benefit is in being able to resolve the identifier, not just the linked content. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:10, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
- @Pigsonthewing: It's already confirmed unable to resolve this identifier. --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 12:59, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
- Not so; if a user has the ID value "783", they can currently access Wikidata to resolve that value to Gary Caldwell (Q334628). If we delete the property, that will no longer be the case. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:05, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
- @Pigsonthewing: It's already confirmed unable to resolve this identifier. --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 12:59, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
- One of the properties should be deleted, however the text portion of Soccerway IDs are meaningless and not necessary (as shown by the current URL for P3043 (P3043)). Therefore, I believe any items with Soccerway person ID (P2369) but not P3043 (P3043) should have the ID transferred over, and then Soccerway person ID (P2369) should be deleted. This would make Soccerway IDs far easier to work with (for example in queries), as sometimes the text portion of Soccerway IDs are trimmed or malformed when imported to Soccerway person ID (P2369). S.A. Julio (talk) 17:37, 27 October 2020 (UTC)
- Delete and should be merged with Soccerway person ID (P2369) and as explained by S.A. Julio the text portion should be removed from the id. Instead the format URL of the current P3043 (P3043) should be used. --Hannes Röst (talk) 15:01, 13 January 2022 (UTC)
