Wikidata:Properties for deletion/P4211
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.
Done (thanks @Solidest:!) @MasterRus21thCentury, MSGJ, Eurohunter: Mahir256 (talk) 00:30, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
P4211 (P4211): (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs | discussion)
In 2019 Bashkin Encyclopedia opened a new websize bashenc.online, opened a new website, where versions in Russian, Bashkir and English were combined under a single code (Property:P9222). When switching to the old version of the site, there is a notification that the Bashkir Encyclopedia has moved to a new address. Therefore, I ask the Wikidata administrators to remove both properties — Timur Rossolov (talk) 17:40, 27 July 2021 (UTC)
- This has currently 1057 uses as main statements. --- Jura 13:21, 8 January 2022 (UTC)
- Also https://mix-n-match.toolforge.org/#/catalog/271 seems to be based on this. --- Jura 13:24, 8 January 2022 (UTC)
Notified participants of WikiProject Russia, Notified participants of WikiProject Authority control —MasterRus21thCentury (talk) 17:03, 6 April 2022 (UTC)- There are still 1100+ statements. @Timur Rossolov: do you know if all data has been migrated to bashenc.online ID (P9222)? — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 20:33, 26 May 2022 (UTC)
- Ping with new username @MasterRus21thCentury: — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 07:45, 27 May 2022 (UTC)
- @MSGJ No, the data has not been migrated. Therefore, a special bot is needed here to transfer all identifiers before deleting the property. MasterRus21thCentury (talk) 08:29, 27 May 2022 (UTC)
- In Wikidata:Properties for deletion/P4210 the question was asked about how to map one to the other. Can you provide any detail on this? — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 20:59, 27 May 2022 (UTC)
- @MSGJ With regards to this, the Bashkir Encyclopedia used to have two different versions with different pages. Now there is one version with three languages - Russian, Bashkir and English. MasterRus21thCentury (talk) 04:48, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
- In Wikidata:Properties for deletion/P4210 the question was asked about how to map one to the other. Can you provide any detail on this? — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 20:59, 27 May 2022 (UTC)
- @MSGJ No, the data has not been migrated. Therefore, a special bot is needed here to transfer all identifiers before deleting the property. MasterRus21thCentury (talk) 08:29, 27 May 2022 (UTC)
- Ping with new username @MasterRus21thCentury: — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 07:45, 27 May 2022 (UTC)
- What is the problem? If it's discountinued project just modify url with archived version to Wayback Archive to property or just update to new url if project was just moved. Don't remove properties just becasuse they are unavailable - use archived version instead. Eurohunter (talk) 16:04, 4 August 2022 (UTC)
@Jura1, MSGJ, Butko, Eurohunter, Kirilloparma, Putnik: There are no Wikidata items left that have this property. Please check further to make a decision on permanent deletion. MasterRus21thCentury (talk) 18:11, 14 November 2023 (UTC)
- @MasterRus21thCentury: There is no need to remove anything. Just add link to archived versions to Wayback Machine in current ID with old name + add new ID with new name. Eurohunter (talk) 18:16, 14 November 2023 (UTC)
- You're a bit late to the party. Since all properties from the old version have already been moved to the new property and the old ones have been deleted. I think that in this case there is no need to keep two (three) different properties for two versions of the same site, given that the material on the site itself has not changed. The same articles now have a new sequential numeric system of identifiers, which required manual replacement. And as I have already said in the discussion of the Bashkir version, I feel that no more than 10% of the articles have been preserved in the archive. The Bashkir version is also almost done, having ~100 left. Solidest (talk) 22:11, 14 November 2023 (UTC)
- @Solidest In the near future I will finish analyzing the identifiers of the Bashkir version and from this it will be possible to raise the question of the final removal of properties. MasterRus21thCentury (talk) 16:29, 15 November 2023 (UTC)
- @MasterRus21thCentury: I have already prepared the lists for making quick replacements:
- https://jmp.sh/kaHGHYU2 - old bashkir ids list with titles + Qitems
- https://jmp.sh/i8bomZ2S - new bash ids with titles + alt titles + descriptions
- So it just needs some gradual work to find titles and update ids on WD. Solidest (talk) 16:47, 15 November 2023 (UTC)
- @MasterRus21thCentury: I have already prepared the lists for making quick replacements:
- @Solidest In the near future I will finish analyzing the identifiers of the Bashkir version and from this it will be possible to raise the question of the final removal of properties. MasterRus21thCentury (talk) 16:29, 15 November 2023 (UTC)
- You're a bit late to the party. Since all properties from the old version have already been moved to the new property and the old ones have been deleted. I think that in this case there is no need to keep two (three) different properties for two versions of the same site, given that the material on the site itself has not changed. The same articles now have a new sequential numeric system of identifiers, which required manual replacement. And as I have already said in the discussion of the Bashkir version, I feel that no more than 10% of the articles have been preserved in the archive. The Bashkir version is also almost done, having ~100 left. Solidest (talk) 22:11, 14 November 2023 (UTC)
Remove, as ids have been fully transferred to the new property. Solidest (talk) 06:40, 11 January 2024 (UTC)
