Wikidata:Property proposal/Museoitalia ID
Museoitalia ID
[edit]Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Authority control
| Description | identifier for a touristic attraction in Italy on the website museionline.info (or "Museo italia") |
|---|---|
| Represents | Museoitalia (Q122174939), the website |
| Data type | External identifier |
| Domain | museum (Q33506) |
| Allowed values | [a-z]+(-[a-z]+)* |
| Example 1 | Archeological Park of Siponto (Q55677846) → parco-archeologico-di-siponto |
| Example 2 | Museo Hendrik Christian Andersen (Q3867611) → museo-hendrik-christian-andersen |
| Example 3 | Villa Emo (Q1258865) → villa-emo |
| Example 4 | Baths of Nero (Q3632901) → bagni-di-nerone |
| Formatter URL | http://www.museionline.info/musei/$1 (or http://www.museionline.info/tipologie-museo/$1) |
Motivation
[edit]A comprehensive database, particularly valuable during the Wiki Loves Monuments season. The content is already linked through descriptive URLs on our pages as examples. I have verified the stability of the website for over three years, dating back to when I originally drafted this proposal.
This database encompasses both museums and various cultural institutions, most likely those with ticketed admission or that are hosting some collections.
There are two formats, one using "musei" and one using "tipolgie-museo," but they both work. For example, this one can be this one, [1] is also [2] and [3] is also [4]. I have checked dozens of them so far, never an issue.
We could include the different types of museums in the ID, we kinda need a more refined and detailed architecture for these instances and here with the same format, they could be added. For example museo del fumetto (or [5]), planetario (or [6]), quadreria (or [7]), sinagoga (or [8])... this means that they can be used as a reference for specific "instance of" in the items. It is true that many items of generic concepts miss an ID here on Wikidata. Even if these pages are just a list of places in Italy and they are not described, their inclusion in the more generic categories (sort of a subclass) is actually encoded, see the line above the title of the list. That line does tell me for example that a quadreria is a specific type of an art museum (" Categorie >> Arti Visive"), which is an important information to define the subclass of an item about that concept. If I click on "arti visive" I can find here all the possible subtypes (Cenacolo, [museo di] Arte Contemporanea, ecc)
In summary, the discussion can decide to enlarge the application of this ID to museum types as well, if it is considered useful.
Notified participants of WikiProject Italy--Alexmar983 (talk) 09:28, 2 September 2023 (UTC)
Note: There were also some geographical "IDs" for places (that is, pages listing all these museal institutions in a administrative territorial entity) but they are not worth any effort to be integrated in our items IMHO because of different url pathway: For example this is a province, this a small comune, but this is the chief town and the url pattern is different).
Discussion
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Support (with the first formatter URL, /musei) --Epìdosis 11:22, 2 September 2023 (UTC)- Support I also support your proposal to enlarge the application of this ID to museum types --Sentruper (talk) 15:48, 2 September 2023 (UTC)
- Support --Marcok (talk) 08:17, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
- Support --Giacomo Alessandroni What's up! 17:33, 5 September 2023 (UTC)
- Support -- Bargioni 🗣 09:47, 6 September 2023 (UTC)
Done @Alexmar983, Epìdosis, Sentruper, Marcok, Galessandroni: Jonathan Groß (talk) 06:52, 6 September 2023 (UTC)
- Jonathan Groß you are a little bit too early ;D Maybe this occurred because the draft was three years old? It was moved to namespace only 4 days ago. Never mind, it was a proposal by an expert user, we already discussed the MixnMatch with User:Bargioni who also approved it (so another positive vote even if not here yet)... so nobody should care if the week is not over. In any case, let's take few more days to see if there is consensus for the additional use of the property for museum types.--Alexmar983 (talk) 07:38, 6 September 2023 (UTC)
- A trusted user had marked it as ready and it seemed a pretty straightforward proposal. Jonathan Groß (talk) 07:39, 6 September 2023 (UTC)
- Jonathan Groß ok. Again, nobody would care, I was just curious to understand why it happened.--Alexmar983 (talk) 07:44, 6 September 2023 (UTC)
- A trusted user had marked it as ready and it seemed a pretty straightforward proposal. Jonathan Groß (talk) 07:39, 6 September 2023 (UTC)
- Support --Luca.favorido (talk) 03:54, 8 September 2023 (UTC)