Wikidata:Property proposal/Pertainym
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pertainym
[edit]Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Lexemes
| Description | this lexeme sense is of or pertaining to the value lexeme sense |
|---|---|
| Represents | pertainym (Q86527217) |
| Data type | Sense |
| Domain | sense |
| Example 1 | L7279-S1 (slowly) → L1388-S1 (slow) |
| Example 2 | L252311-S1 (Danish) → L252308-S1 (Denmark) |
| Example 3 | L43202-S1 (fremtidig @ da) → L46329-S1 (fremtid @ da) |
| Source | https://globalwordnet.github.io/gwadoc/#pertainym |
| See also | periphrastic definition (P7219) |
Begrundelse
[edit]We lack good methods to link the senses of non-noun lexemes or link senses across word classes (e.g., hypernyms is within a word class). A "pertainym" is a concept found in the wordnet community, see https://globalwordnet.github.io/gwadoc/#pertainym and it would allow us to link some non-nouns together, specifically some adjectives to nouns and some adverbs to adjectives. Finn Årup Nielsen (fnielsen) (talk) 18:31, 27 February 2020 (UTC)
Discussion
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Support I've never quite understood how to use periphrastic definition (P7219); this seems a lot simpler and relevant for a lot of contexts. ArthurPSmith (talk) 19:23, 28 February 2020 (UTC)
- @ArthurPSmith: same! @Fnielsen: Does this mean this proposal is to replace periphrastic definition (P7219) lexeme sense for periphrastic definition (P7220), link for periphrastic definition (P7221) or is it a complement? Cheers, VIGNERON (talk) 07:31, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
- No, it was not the idea to replace the periphrastic properties. — Finn Årup Nielsen (fnielsen) (talk) 13:58, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
- @Fnielsen: Thanks for the clarification. So, how could this property and the periphrastic properties work together? (sorry in advance if it's obvious but I don't fully understand the seconds). Cheers, VIGNERON (talk) 17:30, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
- @VIGNERON: I think this property is mainly for adjectives and adverbs and their relations to nouns, while the periphrasis stuff is regarding noun-verb relations (mostly). But I could be wrong! ArthurPSmith (talk) 18:21, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
- @Fnielsen: Thanks for the clarification. So, how could this property and the periphrastic properties work together? (sorry in advance if it's obvious but I don't fully understand the seconds). Cheers, VIGNERON (talk) 17:30, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
- No, it was not the idea to replace the periphrastic properties. — Finn Årup Nielsen (fnielsen) (talk) 13:58, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
- @ArthurPSmith: same! @Fnielsen: Does this mean this proposal is to replace periphrastic definition (P7219) lexeme sense for periphrastic definition (P7220), link for periphrastic definition (P7221) or is it a complement? Cheers, VIGNERON (talk) 07:31, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
- Support Liamjamesperritt (talk) 10:26, 14 March 2020 (UTC)
- @Fnielsen, ArthurPSmith, VIGNERON, Liamjamesperritt:
Done - Nikki (talk) 12:18, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
