Wikidata:Property proposal/Category for people deaths by this disease

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Category for people deaths by this disease[edit]

Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Generic

   Not done
Descriptionlink to Wikimedia category for people deaths by this disease.
Representsdisease (Q12136)
Data typeItem
Allowed valuesWikimedia category (Q4167836)
Example
Sourcefrom User:Mr. Ibrahem/disease
See alsocategory for people who died here (P1465)
Motivation

I want to add the categories to many items so I can use it for autocategorization Mr. Ibrahem (talk) 13:21, 13 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion
  • @Nikki: Well, what about a new property with name "Related Categories" just like website account on (P553), We can use it to do any type of autocategorise with specific item in the qualifier.
for example I will create new item with name "Category for people deaths by this disease" and I will use it in the qualifiers with property: applies to jurisdiction (P1001). and this way can work on award holders, deaths places, births places, and may things.?--Mr. Ibrahem (talk) 20:13, 15 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I support this latter suggestion, except that the property used as a qualifier should not be applies to jurisdiction (P1001). Thierry Caro (talk) 13:36, 19 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Comment Maybe a new property for properties would work ("stroke" (Q12202) > "Property for autocategorization" > "Cause of death" (P509)). A qualifier on that could link to the applicable category ("Category:Deaths from stroke (Q6509490)"). So if an infobox an article relates to an item with P509:Q12202, it could add the article into the category found on Q6509490. This is similar to what some wikis do based on date/place of birth/death.
    --- Jura 13:45, 19 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
 Comment Actually, the other way round categorization might be easier. A statement linking to the category and possibly a qualifier to indicate the property.
--- Jura 16:49, 19 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • The other reason "auto-categorization" confuses me (besides my above oppose) is that we should be relying on humans with their actual causes of death filled here. --Izno (talk) 17:37, 19 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    • This actually makes categorization rely on that. Which can be seen as a step forward compared to suggestions to query Wikidata and than add "manually" categories.
      --- Jura 17:41, 19 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
      • Then it's not necessary per my original oppose. --Izno (talk) 18:06, 19 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
        • Can you provide us with a proof of concept? You can use any article on any wiki (with P509 set) to illustrate how your approach can work (either in LUA or with #property).
          --- Jura 18:15, 19 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
          • That seems clearly not to be the user's intent. Even if it were, I would disagree with that as a useful scope for Wikidata. Propping up the shitty category system is not our goal at Wikidata. --Izno (talk) 18:32, 19 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
      • I think from the proposal alone it's not entirely clear what they were looking for. I assume that you agree they couldn't use P971 to categorize articles at Wikipedia and a new property (in one way or the other) would be needed. Personally, I think it works well for cawiki and a few others.
        --- Jura 18:36, 19 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Can any one make a decision! --Mr. Ibrahem (talk) 14:51, 1 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done This property is not aligned with the principles of WD. If you want to find the people who died by a certain disease, then use a query. Besides for such a low number of categories it is not worth it. @Mr. Ibrahem, Izno, Pigsonthewing, عدنان حليم, Thierry Caro:--Micru (talk) 13:00, 7 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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