Wikidata:Property proposal/Geneanet URL(s)
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Geneanet URL(s)[edit]
Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Person
Not done
| Description | page(s) about this person on Geneanet |
|---|---|
| Represents | Geneanet (Q3100478) |
| Data type | URL |
| Domain | human (Q5) |
| Example 1 | Henry de Lesquen (Q3133201) → |
| Example 2 | Arthur Ladonne (Q91936087) → https://gw.geneanet.org/amta?lang=en&pz=anne+marie+therese&nz=lanore&p=justin+arthur&n=ladonne |
| Example 3 | Eva Joly (Q464116) → https://gw.geneanet.org/wikifrat?lang=fr&n=farseth&oc=0&p=eva |
| See also |
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Geneanet is one of the most popular French-speaking genealogical websites; hence
Notified participants of WikiProject France. Nomen ad hoc (talk) 08:52, 29 April 2020 (UTC).
Discussion[edit]
Comment not opposed but not convinced yet. We already have GeneaStar person ID (P8094) (a sub-base of Geneanet for known people, this property is largely unused by the way), do we really need this property? And is this really an identifier? The url looks more like search results. Finally, is Geneanet really a "worthy" and serious source? Cheers, VIGNERON (talk) 09:12, 29 April 2020 (UTC)
- Hello VIGNERON. Indeed we've Geneastar; but I think it may be useful having a broader database too (for less-known but nevertheless notable people, e. g.).
- We also have properties with URL datatypes, that doesn't strictly correspond to an "identifier": just think to Academia.edu profile URL (P5715) (@Thierry Caro: who initiated it).
- Regarding reliability, I would say that it depends on the genealogist's rigour (for instance Christophe de Montvallon, owner "Wikifrat", always cites his sources). But no more, and no less, than GeneaStar person ID (P8094), WikiTree person ID (P2949), Roglo person ID (P7929) (and so on).
- Nomen ad hoc (talk) 09:57, 29 April 2020 (UTC).
- Comment I agree with Vingeron ; particularly, the url examples are not identifiers, but queries. I don't think this is stable enough to fill a property. Plus, two other questions : 1. Is it normal to have several entries (de Lesquen example)? 2. On which "instance of" (P31) items this property should apply ? only human beings or also families, family names, etc.? GAllegre (talk) 09:27, 29 April 2020 (UTC)
- Hi GAllegre, see above for VIGNERON's comments.
- Even if their scheme is quite unusual, URLs seem perennial.
- Yes it is, given that there is one entry per family tree. And this person is present on several ones.
- Lastly, this applies only to individuals (as far as I know).
- Nomen ad hoc (talk) 09:57, 29 April 2020 (UTC).
- Thanks for your answer, but for Academia.edu profile URL (P5715), even if it's an URL, it seems more a permanent one than a query like your examples with Geneanet. On my second question, I assume you want to apply this property strictly on persons. I'm not used to Geneanet, but I think a bit difficult to use it if there's no identifier strictly speaking, and particularly no single entry for a given person. GAllegre (talk) 10:12, 29 April 2020 (UTC)
Notified participants of WikiProject Genealogy. Nomen ad hoc (talk) 09:42, 10 May 2020 (UTC).
- @Nomen ad hoc, VIGNERON, GAllegre:
Not done Stale and unsupported. Please reference this discussion if you try again. ArthurPSmith (talk) 16:57, 11 January 2021 (UTC)
Notified participants of WikiProject Genealogy @Nomen ad hoc, ArthurPSmith:
Is there a way to get this to work in a new proposal? The website is useful, but structured differently than others. I suppose it should be either url (as above) or an id without the "https://gw.geneanet.org/" part. --- Jura 15:19, 2 November 2021 (UTC)