Wikidata:Property proposal/Hindawi Foundation book ID

‎Hindawi Foundation book ID

Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Creative work

   Done: Hindawi Foundation book ID (P12676) (Talk and documentation)

Description	A property for IDs of books published by Hindawi Foundation
Data type	External identifier
Example 1	al-Rūm fī siyāsatihim wa-ḥaḍāratihim wa-dīnihim wa-thaqāfatihim wa-ṣalātihim bi-al-ʻArab (Hindawi, 2018) (Q113298440) -> 46083685
Example 2	Q115962634 -> 86048474
Example 3	Makhṭūṭāt al-Baḥr al-Mayyit wa-Jamāʻat Qumrān (Hindawi, 2021) (Q113354665) -> 85064627
Source	https://www.hindawi.org/
Formatter URL	https://www.hindawi.org/books/$1
Wikidata project	WikiProject Books (Q8487081)

Motivation

To use in entries of books published by Hindawi Foundation --MSMST1543 (talk) 11:33, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

Discussion

Jheald (talk) 09:48, 11 January 2015 (UTC) PKM (talk) 19:09, 11 January 2015 (UTC) Fabian Tompsett (WMUK) (talk) 08:51, 12 January 2015 (UTC) Charles Matthews (talk) 09:27, 15 January 2015 (UTC) Filceolaire (talk) 16:27, 4 February 2015 (UTC) Danrok (talk) 13:01, 19 October 2015 (UTC) Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits JJBullet (talk) 10:55, 27 June 2019 (UTC) Yirba (talk) 09:53, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

Notified participants of WikiProject UK and Ireland Regards, ZI Jony ^(Talk) 12:57, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

•  Oppose The books published by Hindawi have there ISBN. ISBN is more useful and global book ID. I think if enough to identify Hindawi books. No need to store every internal publisher database ID.--حبيشان (talk) 13:52, 17 February 2024 (UTC)

  I doubt ISBNs are more useful. Hindawi books are available for free on its website. MSMST1543 (talk) 07:14, 18 February 2024 (UTC)

  @حبيشان:, would you like to change your opinion? Regards, ZI Jony ^(Talk) 13:55, 27 February 2024 (UTC)

  @ZI Jony, No, As this query there are in wikidata 13605 publishers have websites so in this way wikidata will add 13605 properties like this. if some publishers offer book freely they may use full work available at URL (P953). I am the maintainer of module Cite Q in arwiki the module can't process 13605 properties to make links to book content but it uses full work available at URL (P953) perfectly. حبيشان (talk) 14:42, 27 February 2024 (UTC)

  @حبيشان I don't understand, why you need to use this type of external identifiers in Cite Q? I think that these things are independent. Citation is based on ids like ISBN only. Skim (talk) 22:26, 28 February 2024 (UTC)

  @Skim: It is good in Citation linking to book content if the book is online, proposal creator and other users think using external-id is good for linking. But full work available at URL (P953) is enough for linking.--حبيشان (talk) 11:16, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

  I understand that you need to use full work available at URL (P953). Yes, that is fine to fill it. But why do you talk about this new external identifier in case of Cite Q? This is not related. Skim (talk) 20:20, 18 March 2024 (UTC)

  @Skim:, would you like to give your opinion? Regards, ZI Jony ^(Talk) 06:34, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

  @Skim:, looks you are not against this proposal, based on your comments above. Regards, ZI Jony ^(Talk) 06:37, 26 April 2024 (UTC)

•  Support we have many similar ID's for online sources for musical works, I don't see why this wouldn't be useful. And ISBN is not linkable generally at all. ArthurPSmith (talk) 10:55, 27 February 2024 (UTC)
•  Support Having an ID here on Wikidata allows us to cross-walk between ID systems. In general that is going to be useful. Charles Matthews (talk) 18:15, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
•  Support Skim (talk) 09:30, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
• @حبيشان, MSMST1543, Skim, Charles Matthews, ArthurPSmith:  Done as Hindawi Foundation book ID (P12676). Regards, ZI Jony ^(Talk) 07:27, 27 April 2024 (UTC)