Wikidata:Property proposal/List of lights id

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List of Lights ID

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Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Authority control

Descriptionidentifier in the List of Lights database
Data typeExternal identifier
Domainnautical light
Allowed values\d+
ExampleAlte Weser (Q436392) → 5561
Planned useLinking data via OSM, comparing data to the external sources.
Formatter URLhttp://listoflights.org/leuchtfeuer/detail?id=$1

As proposed on http://wiki.openseamap.org/wiki/OpenSeaMap-dev:Lights-WP-WD and discussed in person, in order to improve our coverage of lighthouses and to be able to compare data sources. The database is available at http://listoflights.org/, but it's not possible to hot link a specific item there by id (they use internal ids over the public ones). Hoo man (talk) 15:41, 17 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion

 Oppose Although we may need a property for the ID used in List of Lights URLs (for the example given, this would be 5561).

The "B 1188" in the example given in the proposal is an Admiralty ID, not one minted by List of Lights. This page about Lighthouses of Belgium lists several IDs for each light,for example, for Lange Nelle Lighthouse (Q2327812):

  • ARLHS BEL-002
  • BE-0440
  • Admiralty B0092
  • NGA 9020

Noting that "ARLHS numbers are from the ARLHS [Amateur Radio Lighthouse Society] World List of Lights. BE numbers are from the official Belgian Lichtenlijst. Admiralty numbers are from volume B of the [UK] Admiralty List of Lights & Fog Signals. U.S. NGA [National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency] numbers are from Publication 114." Further information may be found on the same site's Lighthouses on the Internet: A Researcher's Guide.

We probably need a property for each.

Incidentally, comparison with OSM should primarily be facilitated by adding the Q number of the light on Wikidata (Q436392 in your example), as an OSM property, per http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:wikidata

-- Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:17, 17 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I've changed the id format to use ids that are native to list of lights. We should indeed have more properties for the other nautical light identifiers, we also agreed to this in person (User:Tobias1984 might take care of that, coordinating with open sea map). Cheers, Hoo man (talk) 08:32, 18 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Happy to support as re-written. @Hoo man, Tobias1984: Let me know if I can help with other properties. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:03, 18 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Pigsonthewing: Thank you for your offer. We should probably try to contact more people from OpenSeaMaps and see what kind of data collaboration would make sense. Do you think we should start a page or discussion on their project? --Tobias1984 (talk) 19:51, 19 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Tobias1984: Here or there; whatever suits. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:59, 19 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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