Wikidata:Property proposal/Main deity
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Main deity[edit]
Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Generic
Not done
| Description | The main deity of a certain worship place. |
|---|---|
| Represents | deity (Q178885) |
| Data type | Item |
| Domain | property |
| Example 1 | Da Shi Ye Temple (Q10934697) → Ulkāmukha Pretarāja (Q6338335) |
| Example 2 | mosque (Q32815) → Allah (Q234801) |
| Example 3 | Dajia Jenn Lann Temple (Q10936936) → Mazu (Q418226) |
| Example 4 | Pashupatinath Temple (Q380384) → Shiva (Q11378) |
Motivation[edit]
Almost the most important property of religious place. Koala0090 (talk) 19:56, 4 October 2019 (UTC)
Discussion[edit]
Support Good idea (I added an example and changed diety to deity), however a mosque is not a certain worship place but a subclass of religious buildings Germartin1 (talk) 06:19, 5 October 2019 (UTC)
- @Germartin1: Thanks for your correction and opinion, how about change "worship place" into "religious place" in description? ---Koala0090 (talk) 12:28, 5 October 2019 (UTC)
- @Koala0090: I was referring to the word "certain" and I think it makes to sense to only allow instances of places. Further, I think the property makes mostly sense to Hindu/Buddhist temples, as other religions only have one god. What about a "St. Paul's Church", is the deity Jesus Christ or St. Paul, or should we only use the property "named after". However I'm not really religious so don't count on my word. So let's wait for more feedback Germartin1 (talk) 13:57, 5 October 2019 (UTC)
- @Germartin1: Thanks for your correction and opinion, how about change "worship place" into "religious place" in description? ---Koala0090 (talk) 12:28, 5 October 2019 (UTC)
- Support David (talk) 15:33, 5 October 2019 (UTC)
Oppose. Keep using dedicated to (P825). Thierry Caro (talk) 16:28, 5 October 2019 (UTC)
- @Thierry Caro: I hope that you have acknowledged that in polytheism countries like Taiwan or India, there can be multiple deities in a single temple. The property dedicated to (P825) couldn't offer us effective information about the main deity of the certain religious place. ---Koala0090 (talk) 17:06, 5 October 2019 (UTC)
- One may use a object has role (P3831) qualifier for the main one. Thierry Caro (talk) 17:14, 5 October 2019 (UTC)
- @Thierry Caro: I hope that you have acknowledged that in polytheism countries like Taiwan or India, there can be multiple deities in a single temple. The property dedicated to (P825) couldn't offer us effective information about the main deity of the certain religious place. ---Koala0090 (talk) 17:06, 5 October 2019 (UTC)
Notified participants of WikiProject Religions. Nomen ad hoc (talk) 16:26, 5 October 2019 (UTC).
- Oppose Use dedicated to (P825) with preferred rank, plus object has role (P3831) qualifier if desired. Jheald (talk) 15:49, 7 October 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose I could be persuaded, but I'm not seeing a good argument that this can't be done with existing properties. MartinPoulter (talk) 13:28, 8 October 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose Per Jheald. --Tinker Bell ★ ♥ 20:40, 1 November 2019 (UTC)
- SupportFood idea, espacially for countries of polytheism like Taiwan, Japan with Buddism and Taoism. Someone has concerns about it should read Religious of Taiwan for the difference between Christian World.Supaplex (talk) 05:32, 23 November 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose Keep using dedicated to (P825) (with object has role (P3831) qualifier), if it can be applied multiple time to religious objects (there is a discussion on the dedicated to (P825) page about that). — nojhan (✐) 17:10, 11 December 2019 (UTC)
Once decided, do not forget to update Wikidata:WikiProject Religions. — nojhan (✐) 17:10, 11 December 2019 (UTC)
Not done, no consensus.
